Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 So how would this work? VIA western union? pay pal? In the case of going to a different city other than home base. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 I absolutly agree on getting a deposit. When I travel if I am the least bit suspicious a person is not serious and may cancel I ask for one. If the client is not willing to give me a deposit there is no appointment make. If a client is serious why would he not give a deposit? It is going to come off the donation and does not make any difference in the end. Seems pretty easy to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datyaddict 2174 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 With enough advance bookings and paid deposits, a companion can have a much better sense of how the tour will go. If she doesn't have enough bookings, she can return the deposits and stay home or go somewhere else. It's possible that some guys may not be comfortable with this, suspecting the SP of collecting deposits and then never even coming to town. So, I suggest out-of-town-clients don't leave a deposit, but rather leave their wife's work address. Then, in the event of a no-show, to SP knows where to go and who to talk to ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriella Laurence 301887 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 So how would this work? VIA western union? pay pal? In the case of going to a different city other than home base. Email money transfers are great ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 Email money transfers are great ;) but what if the gent cancel in advance, have a valid excuse, sending the money back will attach your real name to the email Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 It's possible that some guys may not be comfortable with this, suspecting the SP of collecting deposits and then never even coming to town. So, I suggest out-of-town-clients don't leave a deposit, but rather leave their wife's work address. Then, in the event of a no-show, to SP knows where to go and who to talk to ;) The guy should be seeing ladies he trusts. If there is that much mistrust, maybe he should see another lady. And if that much fear, maybe this isn't the lifestyle for him If the touring lady didn't show up, she would refund the gentleman's deposit. As for the wife's address, the reputable ladies here aren't looking to contact wives and break up marriages. Sorry, but lets not feed into stereotypes here And I'm not bashing, just commenting RG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 I am sure if any SP here ever did something like collect deposit for bookings, and say she did not end up going, and also did not refund the client, then she would be risking all reputation she had built on this board. A reputation takes a long time and effort to build, but can so easily be taken away, much faster than it took to build! I don't think SP's would risk ruining all the work they put into building a good rep here just to score 1/2 of the booking fee. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datyaddict 2174 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 Sorry, but lets not feed into stereotypes here And I'm not bashing, just commenting Very true, sorry. I just went for the easy joke without thinking. No disrespect intended. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabriella Laurence 301887 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 but what if the gent cancel in advance, have a valid excuse, sending the money back will attach your real name to the email Email money transfers do not require a real name. The email address you chose to send/or receive with is associated with your bank account. That's how you can accept or send money anonymously. I use this option on a very frequent basis with my gentlemen and we all appreciate the convenience it provides us with. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 I have found that a huge majority of gentlemen drive or travel long distances to visit with me, and that in turn has made me decide to tour some of the smaller cities that I do tour in (there is something about hearing that someone drove 4+hours to visit with you), the best gift I can give in return is coming to you - so A) we can spend more time together and B) you don't have any explaining to do about where you are. I am a quality over quantity lady and find that while I prefer to cover my expenses when I tour, in some cities a quality companion is few and far and I honestly do not believe that respectable gentlemen should have to miss out. I agree with Emily and that's why i travel as well. I also love seeing new people and new places. Halifax is my best city...so there must be money there...and gentlemen drive long distances to see me...I have gents to that will save their money for a visit. So if people know in advance we are going to their city they should book early and keep their commitment.. Moncton is well known for no shows and that's too bad because it reflects badly for the good guys. A couple of the places i visit the gentlemen will pay me by email money transfer before i even leave Montreal. Thus they are insured to see me. There is one place i visit that all my expenses are paid up front so anything i make there is profit. Now that i love..lol. To get more ladies to visit you where you are you need to respectful and encouraging...one person can't stop the no-shows but together with the help of the ladies you provide as references we can all have what we want. Happy Endings...:wink: 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tepic 91 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 This is the second time you have brought up this point. I am genuinely curious who exactly is making you feel unwanted? The ladies that are not touring there? The ones that are? Or the "bad eggs" that make it difficult for everyone? The SPs that lump all the moncton hobbyists together. That either don't answer or decline my requiests for appt's because 'Moncton guys usually no show' (even if i'm proposing travelling to their town. Both here and on another site). If that answers your question. I'll admit my frustration is getting in the way of being level-headed about this discussion, which i hoped would foster solutions. I apologize if i've come off as brusque or offended anyone here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyofHalifax 15339 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 The SPs that lump all the moncton hobbyists together. That either don't answer or decline my requiests for appt's because 'Moncton guys usually no show' (even if i'm proposing travelling to their town. Both here and on another site). If that answers your question. I'll admit my frustration is getting in the way of being level-headed about this discussion, which i hoped would foster solutions. I apologize if i've come off as brusque or offended anyone here. Well, I think there is some valuable advice in this thread, then. To sum it up, be very respectful in all your dealings with SPs starting from the first time you contact them. Show them that you are a man who can be trusted. When they come to your city, book an appointment, and keep it. If you do this, and a few more gentlemen do the same thing, then slowly Moncton's reputation will begin to change. Also, build your own reputation by participating more frequently on CERB, if that's something you enjoy. It will let ladies see that you are a reputable person and allow you to have casual online interactions with them which certainly won't hurt when they are travelling to your area. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 I'll admit, beside being curious, my alterior motive is to try and get more SPs to visit NB ;) Posted via Mobile Device If you aren't willing to spring a week's pay as you put it, to see a lady, then you shouldn't be asking for ladies to tour there because of course their fees will have to reflect travel costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166767 Report post Posted September 4, 2011 Re: deposits and e-mail transfers--they're easy to do and easy to refund, as well. My experience has usually been that the client asks me to hold onto the funds as a deposit for another meeting. That works, too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted September 6, 2011 Email money transfers do not require a real name. The email address you chose to send/or receive with is associated with your bank account. That's how you can accept or send money anonymously. ...but there's still a record of the transaction; it could still be proven that $$$ changed hands. That may be off-putting, for some. The last visit to Halifax for me was almost a bomb. I had several people requesting me to go, so I advertised for 2 weeks. The first two days I was rather upset...as the very same people who were requesting me all of a sudden did not book?? Thankfully the last two days filled up, just in time too! The same thing happened to me in Ottawa, until a member spoke up and said " come on Ottawa we can do better than this!" So, a thought on this... would it be acceptable for a lady who was considering a trip to contact people who had previously requested that she visit and see if they want to book? It could perhaps help her decide on the timing, if it turns out to make a difference. Or would that fall foul of CERB's solicitation rules? My thinking is that if I've asked someone when they're going to visit or requested that they do so then I've already initiated contact with them, but I don't know if everyone else will agree. It might be an idea to have some official guidance on that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted September 6, 2011 ... would it be acceptable for a lady who was considering a trip to contact people who had previously requested that she visit and see if they want to book? ... Yes that's all right, no question. The rule says: Please do not PM members with offers, ads, suggestions, etc... unless the member contacts you first ... (my bold) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_pmsystemtule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E*******h S******s Report post Posted September 6, 2011 ...but there's still a record of the transaction; it could still be proven that $$$ changed hands. That may be off-putting, for some. So, a thought on this... would it be acceptable for a lady who was considering a trip to contact people who had previously requested that she visit and see if they want to book? It could perhaps help her decide on the timing, if it turns out to make a difference. Or would that fall foul of CERB's solicitation rules? My thinking is that if I've asked someone when they're going to visit or requested that they do so then I've already initiated contact with them, but I don't know if everyone else will agree. It might be an idea to have some official guidance on that... The issue with solicitation I think has more to do with contacting people you haven't had discourse with previously. I've had a number of gentlemen ask me if I would be coming to Ottawa and request that I let them know if I ever decide to. I don't feel it would be soliciting to grant the request and contact them with my itinerary. Now, if I scanned the membership and contacted every man who lives in Ottawa with a pm saying I was coming to town, I'd likely be given a 30 day vacation... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamanthaEvans 166767 Report post Posted September 6, 2011 So, a thought on this... would it be acceptable for a lady who was considering a trip to contact people who had previously requested that she visit and see if they want to book? It could perhaps help her decide on the timing, if it turns out to make a difference. Or would that fall foul of CERB's solicitation rules? My thinking is that if I've asked someone when they're going to visit or requested that they do so then I've already initiated contact with them, but I don't know if everyone else will agree. It might be an idea to have some official guidance on that... If you've asked me when I'm going to be in your city, or to let you know about my plans, I think it's perfectly legitimate for me to PM you and say that I'll be there on these dates and, if you're available, I'd love to see you. This would be part of a conversation we're already having. If I'm planning to go to a certain city, I could put a note in the Advertisement section for that city, saying that I'm considering making a trip and give the dates. Interested parties could contact me, then, and ask about my availability. What I would NOT do is PM or e-mail members with whom I'd had no conversation and pitch my ads to them directly. That would be a kind of solicitation that's not only outside the bounds of this board, but also pretty tacky and tasteless, too, in my view. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted September 7, 2011 I like to tour for a change of scenery and meet new people. There is nothing like waking up and having a view of the mountains or the ocean, etc. It also increase my overall visibility in the escorting ndustry. Thus increasing my profile as a reputable provider. If I decide to tour like I have done in the past, I always make sure that the tribute I will be charging will be on par with that of my home city or a bit more. I charge $250 an hour in Ottawa, Toronto and a bit more when I went to Vancouver a couple of times. I charged $300/hr in the U.S. when I toured in my earlier days of escorting.If I am going to have to charge less then when I'm in Ottawa, there is no point in me leaving home to make less money and on top of that pay for travel costs. Even the demand cannot make up for this as there will always be cancellations and no shows. I like to go back to cities like Toronto because I have clients there who will see me and even though it's a bigger city with lots of competition, I've never had any problems making money. It's also a short trip to make contact with former and potential clientele. To those who have a problem with touring SPs and higher rates.. If you see a touring SP come to your city, she will not be the same as another SP who lives there and doesn't mind charging $140 an hour or whatever because she works from home and doesn't lose money each time she sees a client. I have also heard some unsavoury things about Moncton and New Brunswick in general but if you are a good client who will show up as promised you shouldn't have an issue. However, trying to get SPs to go there may be a challenge. I remember ladies from other cities used to complain that Ottawa was the no show Capital of Canada. I would like to think that has changed over time. It happens in every city but also take into consideration that some smaller cities just do not have the demand for SPs to visit there and cover their costs at the same time. Remember, escorts are a luxury service and not a necessity in life. We in life afford what we can and have to respect what each lady charges. One cannot expect someone to tour and have the same rates of someone in a smaller city. This is only to be expected if you are in a metropolitan city and then you can charge the same or higher. The market will decide what it can bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted September 7, 2011 Based on the number(s) who tour I always assumed there must be a very healthy ROI (return on investment) in order to justify it. Peace MG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) At Fat Bastard's BBM we decided to tour a few times, but we always seem to end in failure. The first time, we scraped together enough for bus fare to Aylmer. Someone, who shall remain nameless, decided he needed to stop for supplies and a bit of pre-fluffing at Barbs. Needless to say, the tour was not successful. The second time, we threw money in the pot and it was decided I would go. We were going to Brockville. I shouldn't have taken the Gravol. When I woke up, the bus had changed routes and I was in Kenora. Do you know how many litres of gasoline you need to pump in Kenora to make enough money for bus fare back to Ottawa??? The third and last time, another BBMP, again remaining nameless, came back to the Fast Bastard Den of Love, Lust and Carnal Awareness with two twelve packs of Coors Light and a six of Corona. We asked how the trip to Cornwall went. He said, "Cornwall? I thought you said Beer Store." We still can't figure that out. Soooo.. at Fat Bastard's BBM we provide local service only. You supply the bus tickets. We're waiting for you.... Edited September 7, 2011 by Old Dog 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted September 7, 2011 At Fat Bastard's BBM we decided to tour a few times, but we always seem to end in failure. The first time, we scraped together enough for bus fare to Aylmer. Someone, who shall remain nameless, decided he needed to stop for supplies and a bit of pre-fluffing at Barbs. Needless to say, the tour was not successful. The second time, we threw money in the pot and it was decided I would go. We were going to Brockville. I shouldn't have taken the Gravol. When I woke up, the bus had changed routes and I was in Kenora. Do you know how many litres of gasoline you need to pump in Kenora to make enough money for bus fare back to Ottawa??? The third and last time, another BBMP, again remaining nameless, came back to the Fast Bastard Den of Love, Lust and Carnal Awareness with two twelve packs of Coors Light and a six of Corona. We asked how the trip to Cornwall went. He said, "Cornwall? I thought you said Beer Store." We still can't figure that out. Soooo.. at Fat Bastard's BBM we provide local service only. You supply the bus tickets. We're waiting for you.... Note to self, avoid Aylmer, Brockville, Kenora and Cornwall LOL Really Ottawa should be avoided too, but I've met quite a few beautiful and great ladies and had great encounters up there, so I'll still be touring to the nation's capital. RG :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted September 7, 2011 ...but there's still a record of the transaction; it could still be proven that $$$ changed hands. That may be off-putting, for some. yes but on your online bank account you can change the name of the receiver...example on mine when someone sends me money and i deposit it the person sending it receives an email saying ABC consulting has received the monies..you can put whatever you want.. So, a thought on this... would it be acceptable for a lady who was considering a trip to contact people who had previously requested that she visit and see if they want to book? It could perhaps help her decide on the timing, if it turns out to make a difference. Or would that fall foul of CERB's solicitation rules? My thinking is that if I've asked someone when they're going to visit or requested that they do so then I've already initiated contact with them, but I don't know if everyone else will agree. It might be an idea to have some official guidance on that... I always contact the guys that have pm'ed me or emailed me first before i even post an ad...it's good idea for sure...you need to know if the trip is going to be a success or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites