Third Party Service Providers Announcements

[dread pirate roberts 4036]

Until today I had not seen one here. I don't mean to comment on the particular SP, since I know nothing about her, but I found the fact that someone else was announcing her availability left me uncomfortable.

 

Is that just me?

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Technically, by the rules of the board, more then one account promoting the same person is not permitted.

[April Dawn 12207]

What about one account which is an independent SP'S which promotes another SP'S availability? (I could be totally off base but I think that's what Dread Pirate Roberts is getting at)

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[Guest W***ledi*Time]

The type of account doesn't matter - unless they are both "Paid Advertisers". A paid agency account and a paid individual account can both promote the individual who works through the agency.

[dread pirate roberts 4036]

There's a posting now in which person A is saying "person B will be available, here's why you should see her". It's possible persons A and B are both independent SPs, but my discomfort comes from the fact that this approach makes it seem as though person B is not independent. Perhaps she is, but it has the "feel" or her being offered by a third party.

[April Dawn 12207]

Sorry I think I'm having a blonde moment or just suck at making things clear. Lets say SP A has a CERB account and on her account she advertises for herself and Sp B who doesn't have a CERB account , is

that allowed?

 

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[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Sorry I think I'm having a blonde moment or just suck at making things clear. Lets say SP A has a CERB account and on her account she advertises for herself and Sp B who doesn't have a CERB account , is that allowed?

 

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Yes, it is allowed. Unless B has been a Cerb member in the past, and is currently suspended or banned from Cerb.

 

Agencies, which represent and advertise multiple ladies, are also permitted on Cerb.

[dread pirate roberts 4036]

Agencies, which represent and advertise multiple ladies, are also permitted on Cerb.

 

I'm not suggesting anyone is breaking rules. I'm saying that this makes me personally uncomfortable. No-one else feels that way?

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

The basic reason that some ladies choose to use the services of an agency, rather than operating as an independent, is the convenience. The agency provides advertising, screening, and/or booking services for the lady, in exchange for a fee. The lady benefits by being freed from the headaches and hassles of time-consuming scheduling. It's a personal choice of the lady.

 

Some clients prefer to use agencies, some clients prefer indys. Some clients don't have a particular preference one way or the other. There are quite a number of "agency vs indy" discussion threads about the pros and cons - from everyone's perspective (for example: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19567).

[fortunateone 156618]

I'm not suggesting anyone is breaking rules. I'm saying that this makes me personally uncomfortable. No-one else feels that way?

 

 

I'm not sure the example itself makes me uncomfortable. One sp post availability for another within her own ad, to me, kind of sounds like the sp B is not in a position to create an account at this time, but probably will as soon as they can get set up. In the meantime, they appreciate that someone else is able/willing to make an announcement for them. That same person is also going to receive pms, possibly emails.

 

The big thing is that no real deception is taking place. Several sps share space, get to know each other, help each other out. It would be a different spin if a non-sp member were to post such an announcement, I think.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... It would be a different spin if a non-sp member were to post such an announcement, I think.

 

Yes, only agencies and providers can post ads. Clients aren't allowed to.

[Touch 57501]

I think non-SPs very frequently post that a specific touring SP will be available locally and often with the dates and links.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

I think non-SPs very frequently post that a specific touring SP will be available locally and often with the dates and links.

 

Yes, but they can't post an ad.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Sorry I think I'm having a blonde moment or just suck at making things clear. Lets say SP A has a CERB account and on her account she advertises for herself and Sp B who doesn't have a CERB account , is

that allowed?

 

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Yes, it is allowed. Unless B has been a Cerb member in the past, and is currently suspended or banned from Cerb.

Are you sure this is allowed, WIT?

 

Following April's post, SP B could easily create her own account and do her own advertising. Why promote 2 ladies

under the same account if it's not for duo purposes or for an agency? It doesn't make sense to me.

 

There's a posting now in which person A is saying "person B will be available, here's why you should see her". It's possible persons A and B are both independent SPs, but my discomfort comes from the fact that this approach makes it seem as though person B is not independent. Perhaps she is, but it has the "feel" or her being offered by a third party.

Indeed!

SP B should get her own account if she is independent (IMO).

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Are you sure this is allowed, WIT?.

 

Yes.

 

Following April's post, SP B could easily create her own account and do her own advertising. Why promote 2 ladies under the same account if it's not for duo purposes or for an agency? It doesn't make sense to me..

 

Ladies and agencies can advertise any way they want as long as they conform to the rules. The logic as to why to choose to do so in one way or another is up to them. If B does later open her own account to advertise, A can no longer advertise for her, since that would then be two accounts promoting one lady. But as long as B does not advertise with her own account, she is free to be promoted under the one account of A.

 

(Note: in Ottawa or Toronto, two indys on one account might potentially be judged by Cerb to be an agency arrangement, since it's hard to tell the difference between an agency and two indys without inside knowledge. If so, this would then require a "Paid Advertiser" account in either of these two cities in order for them to continue to advertise the two ladies under the one account. This potential complication does not arise outside of Ottawa and Toronto.)

 

dread pirate roberts ... SP B should get her own account if she is independent (IMO).

 

In the original case raised by DPR, B isn't an indy. She is represented by A, which is a well-known and reputable agency.