How safe is a BBBJ?

[Guest h****hedl]

How safe is a BBBJ? Is it possible to contract an STD through these practices?...If so, which STDs are a risk? Is one partner more at risk than the other?

 

Safety is an issue we should be able to discuss openly as adults; and hopefully, further educate and/or enlighten the users of Cerb through this discussion thread...

 

 

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[Megan'sTouch 23875]

This chart should give you a pretty good idea:

 

http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

[Kimberly-Shea 28280]

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Kim

[Parker 19761]

This chart should give you a pretty good idea:

 

http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

 

 

I find this chart to be inaccurate and outdated...

BBBJ is listed as high risk for Syphilis' date=' which the medical industry does not currently consider it, based on not only how it is transmitted-- but also based on how often it is tested and how easy it is to test for, which it is tested for regularly when you go for STD testing.

 

It also lists protected vaginal sex for no risk for several STDs, I think that's beyond misleading-- [b']Using a condom does NOT negate all risk involved[/b], especially when used incorrectly or past the expiry date.

 

Nothing is really safe... Leaving your house everyday isn't safe.

At least when it comes to STDs you can take control, practice safe sex and get tested regularly...

There's no test for if you might get run over by a bus leaving the house.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Actually, the only safe sexual practise is complete abstinence....or masturbation.

[Parker 19761]

Actually, the only safe sexual practise is complete abstinence....or masturbation.

 

Neither of those are actually sex though... One is actually the opposite of sex.

 

I personally believe being "safe" with anything starts with being informed.

Current STD information can be found here; http://www.cdc.gov/std/default.htm ...

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Neither of those are actually sex though... One is actually the opposite of sex.

 

I personally believe being "safe" with anything starts with being informed.

Current STD information can be found here; http://www.cdc.gov/std/default.htm ...

 

 

Agreed....was just pointing out the fact that if you don't want the risk, don't play; either in the escort world or in the bar scene. But yes, it is a responsible act to inform yourself using accurate information. On your next visit to your doctor, start a dialogue about STI's as well as using the net (just be mindful that not everything you read is true)

[Guest S***dst***]

Actually, the only safe sexual practise is complete abstinence....or masturbation.

 

 

But I heard too much masturbation can make you go blind. I would therefor assume it is not listed as safe either..

 

(J/k of course :P)

[antlerman 17064]

But I heard too much masturbation can make you go blind. I would therefor assume it is not listed as safe either..

 

(J/k of course :P)

 

If thatwas true then I would have been blind along

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[roamingguy 300292]

Neither of those are actually sex though... One is actually the opposite of sex.

 

I personally believe being "safe" with anything starts with being informed.

Current STD information can be found here; http://www.cdc.gov/std/default.htm ...

 

Actually Meg said "safe sexual practice" not safe sex. And having no sex (abstinence) is a safe sexual practice, since you are in fact not having sex

And masturbation is self sexual gratification, so is in fact safe sex...the only risk is at night and possibly dropping the flashlight on yourself LOL

But even in committed monogamous relationships, well how many affairs occur in life...the only person's sexual past and current sexual behaviour you can absolutely know is your own, everyone else's, be it wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend etc, all you have is their word, and people being people, some do lie.

RG

[LeeRichards 177238]

If thatwas true then I would have been blind along

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Well Antlerman, you may become a blind man, but you will be a "handsome" man......if you read Notch's joke ;)

[fortunateone 156618]

I find this chart to be inaccurate and outdated...

BBBJ is listed as high risk for Syphilis, which the medical industry does not currently consider it, based on not only how it is transmitted-- but also based on how often it is tested and how easy it is to test for, which it is tested for regularly when you go for STD testing.

 

It also lists protected vaginal sex for no risk for several STDs, I think that's beyond misleading-- Using a condom does NOT negate all risk involved, especially when used incorrectly or past the expiry date.

 

Nothing is really safe... Leaving your house everyday isn't safe.

At least when it comes to STDs you can take control, practice safe sex and get tested regularly...

There's no test for if you might get run over by a bus leaving the house.

 

 

You have to consider the chart is based on proper and correct use of condoms. It would not be in best interest of people to imply that using a condom is just as risky as using one. Because that would be misleading. And in the chart for protected FS, it does specifically say that syphillis and HSV are considered LR (Low risk) not NR (No risk).

 

Also each risk level is explained. So if it is a documented fact that someone giving a bbbj has gotten syphillis (mainly because that is the only sexual contact they had with an infected partner,) that qualifies as high risk. I think the main point with these sorts of charts and info, is that they are based on facts (documented cases of infections) and based on transmission facts (as in the activity that led to the infection), not assumptions.

 

As the ones at primary risk, it is best when the sps are fully informed, making their choices based on the real risks rather than brushing them off as insignificant, or worse, not actually posing any threats to their health. Choosing not to do bbbjs, for example, means choosing not to expose oneself to the obvious dangers, including being out of commission during treatment for the eventual std.

[jamesbeam1975 140]

Thanks...makes you wonder why people would risk the bbbj with a stranger.

[Guest n**se_**n]

I find this chart to be inaccurate and outdated...

BBBJ is listed as high risk for Syphilis, which the medical industry does not currently consider it, based on not only how it is transmitted-- but also based on how often it is tested and how easy it is to test for, which it is tested for regularly when you go for STD testing.

 

It also lists protected vaginal sex for no risk for several STDs, I think that's beyond misleading-- Using a condom does NOT negate all risk involved, especially when used incorrectly or past the expiry date.

 

Nothing is really safe... Leaving your house everyday isn't safe.

At least when it comes to STDs you can take control, practice safe sex and get tested regularly...

There's no test for if you might get run over by a bus leaving the house.

 

Actually this is a pretty accurate chart IF one also looks and reads the information above. I am a sexual health nurse, and I would suggest that there are a few places in the chart that I would not agree with, however it isn't a bad guideline - just not perfect. However, it is not perfect. There are several other factors not considered in this chart, which could impact the varying degree of risk for any given sexual activity.

 

Also typically the term "safer" is used - not "safe" as I agree with Parker nothing is considered "safe". We each have to take care of ourselves and our partners to limit the degree of risk, and frequent testing for all STI, HIV and other blood borne pathogens (hepatitis b and c most common) is part of that. The biggest factor in how risky any activity is the health of the people involved.

 

But hey that is just my 2 cents...

[fortunateone 156618]

Actually this is a pretty accurate chart IF one also looks and reads the information above. I am a sexual health nurse, and I would suggest that there are a few places in the chart that I would not agree with, however it isn't a bad guideline - just not perfect. However, it is not perfect. There are several other factors not considered in this chart, which could impact the varying degree of risk for any given sexual activity.

 

Also typically the term "safer" is used - not "safe" as I agree with Parker nothing is considered "safe". We each have to take care of ourselves and our partners to limit the degree of risk, and frequent testing for all STI, HIV and other blood borne pathogens (hepatitis b and c most common) is part of that. The biggest factor in how risky any activity is the health of the people involved.

 

But hey that is just my 2 cents...

 

 

I would recommend that people get their sexual health/std information from a trained professional at an std clinic, someone with expertise like nurseman for example. I do NOT recommend asking a GP for advice or information, because frankly I don't think they have the experience necessary to be fully informed.

[JuliasUndies 7288]

Life is a gamble, life is a risk..Everything that is fun and exciting is risky!Personally, I'd rather get a bbbj than skydive or take a plane. :)

 

you miss out on 100% of the opportunities you don't take, you miss out on 100% of the possibilities you let slip by without taking a risk.

[Dorinda Bloom 44036]

Julia, how can you receive a bbbj if you are a woman? :?

 

As well, I find your attitude to be very lacadaisical in regards to risk. Is it really such an easy thing to put smilies after?

 

Personally, I do not feel as though I am "missing out on an opportunity" by not offering a gent bbbj!

 

If I just went with risking and gambling my health, even life, why wouldn't I just go bb for everything? I really do not understand your reasoning with this one...:confused:

 

Life is a gamble, life is a risk..Everything that is fun and exciting is risky!Personally, I'd rather get a bbbj than skydive or take a plane. :)

 

you miss out on 100% of the opportunities you don't take, you miss out on 100% of the possibilities you let slip by without taking a risk.

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

Life is a gamble, life is a risk..Everything that is fun and exciting is risky!Personally, I'd rather get a bbbj than skydive or take a plane. :)

 

you miss out on 100% of the opportunities you don't take, you miss out on 100% of the possibilities you let slip by without taking a risk.

 

Are you a man or a woman or maybe a T-girl? No offence but I'm just confused.

[JuliasUndies 7288]

hahaha!

How easily confusing things get so fast. Obviously if I were a man I'd rather a bbbj than skydive any day.

I have no quarrels over such services that happen between two consenting adults, everything is risky in life no matter how well prepared we can be, nothing is 100%.

It's best to stay safe and do our best to protect ourselves from these risks.

Thinking as if I were a man, if I really wanted a bbbj to fulfill my fantasies, then I wouldn't hold back based on fear.

Don't trouble yourself about my views on the subject or if I'm a man, it's just how I view life and sometimes some risks can be worth it.

[VictoriaJolie 64127]

Tap Tap Tap...Still waiting...:confused0024:

I am curious too..Inquiring mind would like to know

...It would be somehow helpful to understand some perceptions and points of vue

 

So :body1:

Or:obs55:

Or

 

:body1::dncdick:

 

:ThankYou:

[Guest h****hedl]

I can shed light on this subject. I just went to JuliasUndies profile page and it does state "Gender - Female" in the About Me tab. She also has an album with pictures of herself.

Hope this helps your confusion.

 

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[Guest **n****er]

It's a matter of personal taste...but if/when I see an sp I would opt for BBBJ. I would never be satisfied with CBJ. That is NOT an attack on those that like CBJ or only provide that service (does that really have to be stated?) just means that for me..cbj would be an unfulfilling experience.

 

LOL JuliasUndies. What benefit would she gain from posting over 500 times posing as a female. She`s clearly a woman.

[castle 38816]

Personally I prefer bbbj, but that's me. I completely understand the SP's and/or clients who only go for cbj. And I don't think either the "cbj" or "bbbj" crowd should have any right to judge one or the other. To each their own. Of course there's a greater risk with bbbj over cbj. Bareback anything is a greater risk than covered anything. There's also a greater risk of catching something from DFK rather than a peck on the cheek. It's all about that particular person's comfort level and no one has a right to judge that. That is unless they're going all out with the BB...ie, BBFS. Then judge away.

 

Life is a gamble, life is a risk..Everything that is fun and exciting is risky!Personally, I'd rather get a bbbj than skydive or take a plane. :)

 

you miss out on 100% of the opportunities you don't take, you miss out on 100% of the possibilities you let slip by without taking a risk.

 

Julia, how can you receive a bbbj if you are a woman? :?

 

As well, I find your attitude to be very lacadaisical in regards to risk. Is it really such an easy thing to put smilies after?

 

Personally, I do not feel as though I am "missing out on an opportunity" by not offering a gent bbbj!

 

If I just went with risking and gambling my health, even life, why wouldn't I just go bb for everything? I really do not understand your reasoning with this one...:confused:

 

Are you a man or a woman or maybe a T-girl? No offence but I'm just confused.

 

Tap Tap Tap...Still waiting...:confused0024:

I am curious too..Inquiring mind would like to know

...It would be somehow helpful to understand some perceptions and points of vue

 

So :body1:

Or:obs55:

Or

 

:body1::dncdick:

 

:ThankYou:

 

And as for......all this........really people? Am I missing something here? From reading HER posts and from chatting with HER at great length there is no doubt in my mind that SHE is all WOMAN. Pardon me for being blunt, but to anyone reading that post, it's clear that she meant that "IF" she were a man, she "WOULD" prefer bbbj. It's clear to anyone who wasn't purposely trying to start shit anyway.

 

If I see a thread aimed at the ladies to determine if they prefer receiving manual stimulation or DATY....and, just for example, Old Dog comments that he thinks he would probably prefer DATY, I don't think anyone would suddenly start thinking he's a woman. It would be clear to everyone that he meant that IF he was a woman, he would prefer DATY. There would be no fuss, except for maybe one smartass comment from someone said as a joke, and taken as a joke, and that would be the end of it. So why shouldn't this be the case here?

 

Why take a clear case of mistaken semantics to try and discredit someone for no reason? SHE doesn't even advertise here, so she poses no threat to you other ladies at all. What's wrong with someone, male or female, who simply wants to come here and get involved in the community? And she's been a valuable member of this community. Her posts are a pleasure to read and she's a pleasure to chat with. And I don't recall her ever having a negative word to say about anyone here. Does every woman here HAVE to advertise and get recommendations to be respected? Why try and create this kind of drama on cerb? This isn't the place for drama. There's another board that starts with a T that's better suited to this kind of BS.

 

cerb openly accepts....with open arms....men, women, and the transgendered. No one would have any reason to come here and lie about their sex.

 

And if I may be a little more candid. when I was going through a rough time and feeling very down in the dumps not so long ago Julia actually gave me her number via PM and said I could call her if I wanted to talk. That doesn't sound to me like something someone who is trying to hide the fact that they're a man would do.

 

It's semantics people, that's all it was, nothing more, nothing less. Sorry for the rant but it pisses me off when people try and start this kind of shit on cerb. I, and I'm pretty sure everyone else here, hobby and come to cerb specifically to avoid exactly this kind of pointless drama. Julia doesn't deserve to be victim to it and we don't deserve to witness it. If you don't agree with her point of view on the bbbj topic, fine, express your difference in opinion. Cerb is nothing else if not a place to take in differing points of views. But don't try and slander her for no good reason.

[Parker 19761]

No one would have any reason to come here and lie about their sex.

 

No, they don't have any good reasons to... but they do.

Even recently there was a guy who was on here pretending to be an escort.

Why is beyond me, but it does happen.

 

.. but this has become overly off topic..

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

No, they don't have any good reasons to... but they do.

Even recently there was a guy who was on here pretending to be an escort.

Why is beyond me, but it does happens

.. but this has become overly off topic..

 

and lets not forget the brain tumor guy...people do this stuff all the time pretending to be something their not...for many reasons.....I was asking re- her bbbj comment..i was seriously confused...I do apologize for my conduct and speaking off the top of my head... but you are right..off topic so back to the discussion at hand.

 

To each their own when it comes to bbbj's ...i prefer to give them but also I'm tested regularly..and have never had an sti. Maybe it's luck but luck or not it's at My DISCRETION and I don't feel i should be judged on it. I feel i have many very happy clients. If someone wanted a a cbj i will happily oblige.