Honeyzworld Carrie FAKE FAKE FAKE, how disapointing

[capitalman 3861]

If they can produce "Taylor" as a real SP not just a model that showed up for a one day photo shoot and was told "Here, put this T-shirt on" then I say they can stay! :)

 

btw: **I** do have too much time on my hands. Anyone wanna party?

[YoungStud 468]

What should we do with honeyzworld? Should they be allowed to stay on as a member here?

 

I don't miss PK here and I won't miss Honeyzworld. In fact, I wouldn't see it as a big loss if all the agencies were dropped or at least put in their own section. Put the emphasis on supporting the independents and cut out the middle person. They don't really seem to add much compared to the independents.

[caveman 147]

I don't miss PK here and I won't miss Honeyzworld. In fact, I wouldn't see it as a big loss if all the agencies were dropped or at least put in their own section. Put the emphasis on supporting the independents and cut out the middle person. They don't really seem to add much compared to the independents.

 

YS, I think that's a little harsh...I'm all for supporting the independents as well (and that really is my preference), but many people have had good things to say about PK and the ladies that work for them (despite the events that led to the infamous suspension). I also don't think it's very fair to lump all the agencies together. OGFE has gotten some very good reviews for their O-town ops, and I saw some excitement about Cupids setting up shop in Ottawa as well, based on their TO rep.

 

I agree about the problems with Honeyzworld--I've only been a member for a few months, but I've certainly seen some strange things posted by them and had the same confusing times trying to understand their labyrinth of websites and business names. But let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater... :-)

[mod 135639]

I agree, the properly run agencies bring added value to the table. Many of the ladies prefer to use a reputable agency and keep in mind the PK was not banned because of how they operate the agency. I commend them for using REAL photos of the ladies and for such a popular agency they have kept a fairly good reputation. An agencies job is to market the ladies and to work for them. No business exists that everyone loves, you will find people on both sides of the fence with everything.

[Akhenaton 221]

That's why, when someone does something with the agency's name on it, well, they better make sure they do represent the whole operation. PK is a good agency overall from what I can tell, they have a very volatile VP or co owner and that caused their rep to go down here and lead in part to their suspention.

 

HW had a good thing going for a while, and they had some good sp's, it's just sad that instead of helping out the sp's they represent they try to post pics of SPs that they do not have and cause grief for both SP and client. They have to remeber that they actually represent and market the SPs, so market the ones you have, I think most SPs have a following of sorts if they keep up their services and are at least somewhat available, so use that to your advantge and theirs, come on here and get a pulse for the client base.

 

Ban them all ? IMHO that's not good, they should be allowed to explain their behaviour, but again, in a curteous way.

 

Make an Agency and an Indy's section ? Well many boards do have exactly that, so if it's not a lot on Mods part, maybe that could work here too.

 

But everyone should respect the same code of behaviour we are all trying to adhere to. Respect, positive constructive comments (JUST FYI, ANY complaint can be worded to be constructive, it's just a bit more work (well, for some...). We have indicated very clearly that B&S and BS would not be tolerated, so those are flagable and after some (depending on the "level" ) well, you get suspended, then longer, then banned. But everyone should be given a chance (Yes, Mod, I know you are already doing that, kudos BTW, just reenforcing)

 

Maybe we could make a better (or more obvious (it's already pretty "in your face", but...) rules section, where we do put in what we expect of members (hobbiests, sps and agencies).

 

Well, my 2 cents.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

What should we do with honeyzworld? Should they be allowed to stay on as a member here?

 

I say shut 'em down they've proven themselves to be nothing less than dishonest and disrespectful to this community on more than one occasion at that. Since loosing their focus, and more importantly their top earners they've done little more than mock us with their attempts at legitimacy. Maybe they can come back once the boys have become men.

[Jay-423 100]

That's it! A sure sign of screwing up! Attack the critic! The "time on hands" remark smears the egg, already on the face of the attacker.

[caveman 147]

Maybe we could make a better (or more obvious (it's already pretty "in your face", but...) rules section, where we do put in what we expect of members (hobbiests, sps and agencies).

 

I don't think the rules are all that hidden (it's at the top of every single page!) and even beyond that, new members (let alone long-time members) are generally bludgeoned over the head with the whole "be respectful" message. I know when I first started lurking (prior to signing up), I was just chuckling to myself and thinking "dudes, say 'respect' again!"... :-)

[d*mm*y 887]

I guess us 1000 + posters have even more than to much time on our hands, does seem rather insulting to me. I have no use for them.

[v*****m*n 220]

On this board we are not allowed to give negative reviews. Then why should the Agencies be allowed to provide us with lies. Have those who provide fake pics be removed.

[Guest i***k***]

I personally don't think we should encourage fakery...

[rickoshadows 937]

I don't think banning all agencies on general principle would be productive in any way. Having come from the Wet coast where I have dealth with professional agencies, I know it can be done. I have not actually dealth with any of the escort agencies here because thier internet presence is amateurish to downright dodgy. With all the web design talent available, I can't believe some of the agency sites I see. What are they doing with the money their providers are handing over to them. As a result, I have not engaged the services of any agency girl here in Ottawa to date.

[caveman 147]

I don't think banning all agencies on general principle would be productive in any way. Having come from the Wet coast where I have dealth with professional agencies, I know it can be done. I have not actually dealth with any of the escort agencies here because thier internet presence is amateurish to downright dodgy. With all the web design talent available, I can't believe some of the agency sites I see. What are they doing with the money their providers are handing over to them. As a result, I have not engaged the services of any agency girl here in Ottawa to date.

 

lmao..."the ladies are hot, but their web site doesn't take full advantage of the extensive Web 2.0 capabilities of modern browsers!"

 

Really? :D

[the lurker 160]

I would also like to add my voice for moderation here. Let the agency prove themselves unworthy. Agencies like OPG is stand up and have been for years and years.

 

There are many phrases and sayings about not lumping folks together. Some are just old, some are just plain blue in nature, but they all say the same thing. Not everyone acts the same, so what one does, definately does not mean all will.

 

Just a thought.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

This thread is getting slightly askew, no one is suggesting banning all agencies, in this case at issue is Honeyzworld.

 

It's well known that I'm not a big fan of agencies but I can admit that there are a few reasonably well run in town. The rest however, are just as amateurish and irresponsible as Honeyzworld has proven themselves to be.

 

The fact that Honeyzworld took the time to post the infamous "toooooooooo much time on the hands" remark rather than listen to what the clients are saying and try to change and act accordingly proves they do not respect the membership or the rules associated with membership here on CERB. Membership is a privellage and not a right and on that count alone I suggest the privellage be revoked when it comes to Honeyz. Judging by the majority of responses to this thread it would seem that most agree.

[o*****j***e 136]

I say shut 'em down they've proven themselves to be nothing less than dishonest and disrespectful to this community on more than one occasion at that. Since loosing their focus, and more importantly their top earners they've done little more than mock us with their attempts at legitimacy. Maybe they can come back once the boys have become men.

 

I totally agree. HW has not proven to anyone that they are a reputable agency. A few months ago they ruined a very reputable SP that was a very highly recommended and a very successful independent here on cerb. I cannot go into details, but MOD, get rid of honeyzworld.

[hunter08 182]

i agree with the rest get rid of them they can't be trusted for a good sp only fake ones

[Seymour 3970]

Well - Honeyzworld can be banned or kicked off the site but if they really wanted to be on here that badly it is easy to get a new account and return. Chances are they have ruined their business already with their misleading ads because now everyone is on to them. I would venture to say that since Mia left that agency, their business has not been the same. I hate to bring up her good name in this but there is/was a huge difference in Mia's ethics compared to those of Honeyzworld. Mia was and is a class act, I'm sure those that have had the pleasure of meeting her will share my sentiments.

[esoterica 624]

I don't miss PK here and I won't miss Honeyzworld. In fact, I wouldn't see it as a big loss if all the agencies were dropped or at least put in their own section. Put the emphasis on supporting the independents and cut out the middle person. They don't really seem to add much compared to the independents.

 

OTOH, if you want reliability and consistency in TO, you should use known agencies (e.g. GoE). It depends on the city.

[YoungStud 468]

OTOH, if you want reliability and consistency in TO, you should use known agencies (e.g. GoE). It depends on the city.

 

Exactly. As I noted in my original post on this thread, "that's why I avoid all the agencies completely now, at least here in Ottawa." There are some agencies in Toronto and Montreal which sponsor visiting escorts here and do it very well. I've also used them from time to time when traveling to those cities and others. My issue is only with the local agencies. I've dealt at least once with each of the "major" ones here and finally reached a point where it seemed really wasn't worth the hassle to deal with any of them, given the independent alternative.

 

Having "stirred the pot" a bit by floating the suggestion they should all be banned from CERB, I'm happy to go with the majority feedback on this point. Sounds like Honeyzworld is out in any case.

 

However, personally, I'd find it convenient to see the Ottawa Female Service Providers - Schedules, Advertisements & announcements section be divided into Independents and Agencies.

 

Just my 2 ?

[YoungStud 468]

lmao..."the ladies are hot, but their web site doesn't take full advantage of the extensive Web 2.0 capabilities of modern browsers!"

 

Really? :D

 

I find it interesting that most of the established independents have websites which are modern marketing aids that present them in an attractive and professional way and have up-to-date easy to find useful information. I can only think of one local agency that tries to do a reasonably good job in that area.

 

Have owned and run several business over the years, I can only say if you don't understand your target customer group and you don't understand marketing, then you probably shouldn't be in business. As marketing and promoting escorts is one of the main business reasons for agencies, it's even more important for them to be able to do this professionally and effectively.

[esoterica 624]

Exactly. As I noted in my original post on this thread, "that's why I avoid all the agencies completely now, at least here in Ottawa." There are some agencies in Toronto and Montreal which sponsor visiting escorts here and do it very well. I've also used them from time to time when traveling to those cities and others. My issue is only with the local agencies. I've dealt at least once with each of the "major" ones here and finally reached a point where it seemed really wasn't worth the hassle to deal with any of them, given the independent alternative.

 

I completely agree with you wrt Ottawa- but wanted to clarify in case Mod was considering it for across the board. The last thing I want is not to have Kyra (who is not indy) here - she contributes intelligently, bluntly, honestly, and is a very nice person.

 

Having "stirred the pot" a bit by floating the suggestion they should all be banned from CERB, I'm happy to go with the majority feedback on this point. Sounds like Honeyzworld is out in any case.

 

I dunno, I kinda get a kick out of Honeyzworld's latest PR disaster. I'd miss the fun.

 

However, personally, I'd find it convenient to see the Ottawa Female Service Providers - Schedules, Advertisements & announcements section be divided into Independents and Agencies.

 

If we had more traffic, I'd see the point.

 

On this board, we can have a discussion with slightly differing viewpoints w/o getting testy. This is why I like it here.

[Guest f***2f***]

Completely agree that Honeyzworld is over the top and should be banned. Mia was a class act when she was with them...now they don't even have a reason to exist.:roll:

[HONEYZWORLD 100]

Are you guys STILL upset because "One" lady sent HW fake Photos? Or are you upset because Taylor moved back to MTL? Being connected to Ottawa strippers and other companies does not disregard Hws credibility.

 

Its simple- Book the appointment- See the Lady.

If the ladies arent avaible- Go to SLEEP or call elsewhere.

[hunter08 182]

that's one lady for now how many more are coming to post fake pics