Guest h****hedl Report post Posted November 19, 2011 As a newer member of cerb, and as someone who has not had the pleasure of receiving massage services before; I'm asking the MA's that read this post to please help take the mystery out of this experience. I'll start by saying I have really enjoyed the escort services that I have been provided, by the SP's I've seen in the Ottawa area. And in the very beginning, I had to learn the terminologies to understand what services were being provided by that specific SP in their ads. (ie DFK/LFK, CBJ, DATY etc.) urbandictionary.com works wonders! I have been curiously glancing over the ads for erotic massages and I can conclude, in general, that a beautiful lady will relax you in multiple ways usually resulting in a happy ending. (fair assumption?) Where the mystery lies for me is, how the happy ending is achieved? Some ads say not a GFE experience or erotic massage ONLY. Some ads actually contradict the website link attached, where it says "Erotic Massage Only" but on the Cerb ad that individual's signature includes: "Your GFE Massage...<person's handle>"(would like to keep this ad anonymous so I am excluding information for that purpose - but their ad does seem misleading) So if it does not mention GFE Massage experience, does this mean if a happy ending occurs it would be by HJ? Is it safe to assume that their would be a happy ending? For those that don't specify their services, how does one go about politely asking what is included with the fees they would render? Would it be recommended that if a certain MA has really caught my eye to send a PM requesting their list of services? Could that be taken offensively? (please remember I haven't busted my MA cherry (yet) - I am not sure what would offend) I am trying not to ask these questions blindly, as I have tried looking through other discussion threads in this forum for info. I did discover that Massage Parlors (not necessarily Independent Masseuses) have fees for "extras"...while independent MA's mainly provide an "all inclusive" service... Then I tried the Recommendation Section thinking I might find a play-by-play review that would enlighten me. Unfortunately, it did not help my cause much in the sense of detail to what happens...but I can say Ottawa has some highly recommended MA's! I do understand that every lady (or parlor) operates their business' differently within their boundaries. Without posting actual rates on this thread, would it be fair to assume a massage GFE experience would have a different or larger fee than an erotic massage that doesn't provide GFE services? Further, would a BJ be classified only as a GFE Massage experience and not generally offered by other MA's in their Erotic massage package? Please, any helpful feedback is welcomed. I am very curious about this topic. Thanks, 8) hb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted November 19, 2011 If a lady is advertising on cerb.ca that she provides massage, she probably provides a manual release and will probably not offer oral or intercourse (though some ladies advertise both massage and escorting services). That being said, it's always best to confirm with the lady in question exactly what she offers and does not offer. In my opinion, GFE generally refers to the experience and not necessarily services offered. Jessica has posted on this topic in the past. Maybe she could chime in here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest **din*** Report post Posted November 19, 2011 Im trying to do the same thing as you. Takes courage to make that post. I don't want to look silly yet I want the info so I can actuall take the next step gulp of doing something about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted November 19, 2011 Always assume the release is by hand, nothing more. The extras you can assume only refer to typical massage extras which would be does she allow touching, is she clothed during this, topless, fully nude, possibly accompanied shower. A very few might do 'everything except' full service, but I don't think there are many if any massage only providers who would do this. It would be more likely to be available from someone who does both massage sessions and full service sessions. Most massage providers afaik choose that because there is no expectation of daty, kissing, digits or bjs. Even if she allows reverse massage, you can't assume she is open to anything other than hands on touching. A client would have to be very careful of pushing such services onto an mps either indy or in an mp. Any guy who goes into an mp and expects those activities with any mpa would not be welcome back I imagine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maverick 2873 Report post Posted November 19, 2011 I don't think there is harm in asking a potential provider what her boundaries or options are as long as you do so in a courteous and respectful way. It is better to be a little awkward at this stage in the process as opposed to encountering an awkward situation during an encounter. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer 33202 Report post Posted November 19, 2011 I think rather than try understand all the possibilities, you just have to take the plunge. If you do a little research you will find many reputable ladies and spas here who will recognize the signs, that you will need a little extra attention. Take a few extra bob and don't be too pushy and I'm sure they will let you know the score and take you in hand.. If you repeat you will make friends, and probably get better service as they get more comfortable with you. Keep your expectations realistic and I'm sure you won't be disappointed. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost2424 201 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 In my past experience, I would assume a manual release from any of the wonderful ladies/establishments you will find on this forum. Anything past that (topless, naked, etc.) you will never find unless you repeat at your chosen establishment/MP. I would recommend reading reviews and picking your poison, in the event it worked for you, I would recommend returning and seeing if it turned into something more than the typical manual release. In the event that happens, I would also recommend never acknowledging that it did on these forums and enjoying your time. Lost 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BootyLoving 2441 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 Thanks for the great question. I was wondering the same, as I'm in similar situation. I've seen many wonderful SP in the city. Bless this city of Ottawa. But I'm right now looking for a masseuse who can release me of physical tension. Someone nimble enough to provide a proper Thai, relax my recently tense back, and hormonally driven tension as well. But first an foremost - a knowledgeable masseuse to correct my spine! Any ladies care to provide some leads? I seems that what HB is looking for is a playbook. I'd be interested in that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 But I'm right now looking for a masseuse who can release me of physical tension. Someone nimble enough to provide a proper Thai, relax my recently tense back, and hormonally driven tension as well. But first an foremost - a knowledgeable masseuse to correct my spine! Any ladies care to provide some leads? If you are looking for an RMT-quality massage, I would suggest Jude Masso. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodehard 2058 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 I have found from past experience that when one deals with the more established MP's found on CERB such as Bethany, Sensual Erin or Megan that it all falls into place. A lot of the MP's found on CERB use a "prescreening process" when approached by a potential client. It serves to break the ice, to find out a little about each other which eases tensions and expectations especially for newbies. For example Bethany uses a screening questionnaire with new clients and answered any and all of my questions regarding what was and was not available during the session. There was also a clear outline of what was included in the rates for the time frame of the session that one desired. As a result one could arrange an appointment, know exactly what the session would involve, what was out of bounds and what one would need in terms of compensation. Erin uses a similiar prescreening method that I found left me feeling that I had known Erin for a while whcih removes any jitters or anxiety. When I meet Erin for the first session I was completely at ease, knew what to expect and had no false expectations or uncomfortable moments during the session which led to a very enjoyable time. The key to all this is discretion, make your choice of the MP that you wish to use and ask questions. But do it by email or a PM thru CERB or by phone. I have yet to find an MP who would not answer my inquiries regarding the services available and the compensation required. I also found that the MP's at some of the established spas that are found on CERB were forthcoming about services offered and compensation when they were approached discretely by email or PM thru CERB. The key is discretion! Hope this helps the newbies... Rodehard 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessicaMassage 16917 Report post Posted November 20, 2011 @hbonthedl This is an old thread that illustrates a more profound meaning to GFE. It's elaborates that GFE is more so the style and not the services offered. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 However, I'm sure that GFE has a different meaning for any provider. Simply ask what to expect. I'm very welcoming to any questions that you might have and I'm sure that everyone here on the board is the same. Provide that you ask with the same mutual respect that you would appreciate in return. I really likes your question. Thank you for posting it! XoXoX 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunn2010 121 Report post Posted November 21, 2011 I think we all feel the same way as newbies...it's a great thing that Cerb is here to help Guide us :) Don't be shy to ask questions by PM, I have done it many times and so far all the ladies have replied. Having a good idea what to expect makes it a more relaxed experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottawaadventurer 5114 Report post Posted November 21, 2011 While I totally understand the spirit and origin of the OP's question, I would also add that eliminating the mystery can also fundamentally chance the experience. One of my absolute favorite things is seeing an MP for the first time. While I have a general sense of what will transpire, it's the unknown that keeps my heart racing and my stomach fluttering... knowing what will happen, as if from a playbook, significantly diminishes the experience for me. No two MPs are the same, no two experiences are the same. Know that the MPs here that have been recommended are all amazing... trust them, and enjoy the mystery! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest h****hedl Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Just wanted to take this opportunity to thank all of those who have taken the time to respond and/or sent a PM. So many helpful members. I now feel alot more confident in what to expect! 8) hb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeylikesthat 1767 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 I have to concur with Ottawaadventurer. Part of the excitement is the thrill of meeting someone new as every beautiful lady on this board has their own personality, their own twists (in more ways than one), and their own unique perspective. Over the years I have been amazed at how sensual the art of massage can be. How simply the art of touch and tease, or the whisper in ones ear, or the hint of something more can arouse the senses. There are so many lovely MAs in Ottawa (Michelle_MA (sadly retired), Emily, Gina, Megan, Bethany, and many many more) that at times it is hard to choose because they are all so lovely and genuinely nice people! So go forth young man and enjoy! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ni**t*****t Report post Posted November 22, 2011 I also agree with Ottawaadventurer. I have seen many MPs and SPs and my personal favorites always kept some mystery. No two sessions were identical and we never felt like we entered a routine, even after several encounters. In some cases the mileage increased the more we knew each other and was not expected or requestes. Service 101 from my perspective is for me to respect her limits and not to insist on having her do something she was not prepared to do. This can create a tense atmosphere and ruin the session for both parties. Aside from that, it's all fun. There are many ways to give a HJ. I have had great experiences so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest s**nflute Report post Posted November 23, 2011 I I have seen many MPs and SPs and my personal favorites always kept some mystery. No two sessions were identical and we never felt like we entered a routine, even after several encounters. In some cases the mileage increased the more we knew each other and was not expected or requestes. Service 101 from my perspective is for me to respect her limits and not to insist on having her do something she was not prepared to do. This can create a tense atmosphere and ruin the session for both parties. Aside from that, it's all fun. There are many ways to give a HJ. I have had great experiences so far. So VERY true Nightflight, myself over the 25 years in the hobby have I experience no two sessions the same, YES!! the mileage increased the more we know each other and not expected........in other words "chemistry" and being comfortable with each other, not something a newbie for the first or third time can experience and that's what keeps us repeated hobbiest keep coming back for more or is it cumming back to enjoy the mystery of the next adventure......god I love this thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteman 14028 Report post Posted November 29, 2011 So if it does not mention GFE Massage experience, does this mean if a happy ending occurs it would be by HJ? Is it safe to assume that their would be a happy ending? For those that don't specify their services, how does one go about politely asking what is included with the fees they would render? Would it be recommended that if a certain MA has really caught my eye to send a PM requesting their list of services? Could that be taken offensively? (please remember I haven't busted my MA cherry (yet) - I am not sure what would offend) So HB, have you busted your MA cherry yet? :icon_wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest s**nflute Report post Posted November 30, 2011 I haven't busted my MA cherry (yet) - I am not sure what would offend) 8) hb Dear Fellow Cerbie, it's not YOU who will bust the MA cherry, it's the MA who is in control of YOUR cherry to keep you coming back for more. Before you the MA had many more cerb's (or cherries) before you. Think outside the box.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest h****hedl Report post Posted December 1, 2011 Dear Fellow Cerbie, it's not YOU who will bust the MA cherry, it's the MA who is in control of YOUR cherry to keep you coming back for more.Before you the MA had many more cerb's (or cherries) before you. Think outside the box.... @skinflute...I meant having MY "MA cherry" busted. Thanks anyways. @whiteman...yes, I have had my MA cherry busted and it was quite an experience! 8) hb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteman 14028 Report post Posted December 1, 2011 @whiteman...yes, I have had my MA cherry busted and it was quite an experience! 8) hb So who did you end up seeing? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest h****hedl Report post Posted December 1, 2011 It was a very special lady for whom I am meeting with again this weekend! She really knew what she was doing and the teasing was almost as good as the ending. Extremely intense at times! I will ask her if it is okay to mention her on this thread. Wouldn't want to put anybody in an awkward situation...I am sure she won't mind...but I would prefer to have her permission first! ;) 8) hb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites