Does lack of a positive review imply poor service?

[m71 100]

Just curious. There are a few ladies that don't have reviews and, keeping with this board's sunny outlook, this implies that no reviews is not good news.

 

Is this the general consensus here?

[mod 135640]

No, Obviously the members here can not see every possible escort (especially every new lady) but the ones that stand out and offer exceptional service (service that is above average) are recommended here but a member here must first find them and let everyone else know!

 

1) Use your "SEARCH" button at the top of the site and search for the ladies name

 

2) If you find nothing open a thread and ask a question like "Has anyone met XXXX, please post here or PM me details" if a member had a negative experience he may PM you some info - look at the post count and his other posts on the site to see if he is credible (as it could be someone trying to discredit the lady you are inquiring about).

 

This site is for you to make a informed choice, if you do not receive any feedback from the other members then chances are she is still too new or the service is average and no one has taken time to recommend her yet. I would hope you give them the benefit of the doubt and toftt in this case as this site is not inteded to take business away from the ladies.

 

It is possible you would be the first member here to visit the lady and if the service was excellent you could open a brand new recommendation for others and be credited with finding a gem.

[dreamer8 510]

yes and no

 

Yes girls who ask for DNR (do not review) normally have a gotten a lot of bad press in the past and I personally stay way from them

 

For woman with no reviews it could be we haven't gotten around to posting a review or there was nothing good to be said. I try to post no matter what but in the case of a "bad" SP the review is very matter of fact quoting stats and prices and perhaps one or two things that I didn't like (but are both factual and non emotional) ... a good example of this is when you expect things to be included in GFE service and you find out kissing is A-la-cart. This is not a negative review more of a neutral (matter of fact) review.

 

If you are concerned about an SP and you have not found anything about her using the search feature then post a question about this sp "can anyone recommend ......" if she is good and people have something positive to say about her they will post a response, if not you will probably get a private message telling you the truth ... this happens to me all the time!

[sledder 496]

I always went by if service was average or less then no review. I`m glad you spelled it out mod, saying this site is not intended to take business away from the ladies. I`m just going to keep that in mind before I review or comment. In reply to m71, that`s the concencus I`ve gone by.

[spud271 47779]

I agree with MOD, check to see how many posts a person has made. It may or may not be the SP that was the problem. Or it could be, it's so hard to say. When I see a bad review on a lady I've had a great time with I sometimes wonder if the expectation was too high, or they just have no clue what they are talking about. Personally, I've only ever posted one review on here and I really didn't say to much. If someone really wants to know they can PM me for details. I try to keep my time with an SP as private as possible.

[loneskater 25635]

I agree with Mod's comments. Also there are many CERB members who prefer not to write reviews. That is their own choice, nothing says you have to write something. So it is quite possible the lady has been seen by those members and they were happy with her services. Alos some ladies were here for a short time and have not been seen in a while. I would say school has something to do with this. These ladies will probably be more active when they get a school break. Some will wonder because they have few reviews then but in fact if you do a search you will find some reviews.

 

As some of us have often repeated to newbies asking for recommendations, you have to do your homework. Don't just read yesterday's posts.

[m71 100]

OK, thanks all.

[Guest m***2]

From my experience even a good review can not always be taken to the bank. There are so many things at play and individual preference, chemistry, timing, moods yada yada yada... I have been with some of those highly reviewed and in a couple of cases I was left scratching my head thinking thats it. That being said the reviews are great and a rule of thumb is use the sun and be prepared to be ripped off. Hit and Miss and we form our regulars and keep exploring - all part of the game.

[cat 262460]

Reviews are extremely subjective and should always be read with an open mind. I have read reviews and seen the numbers and wondered to myself about them. Some SPs welcome detailed reviews while others prefer the details stay private for a myriad of reasons. The main thing to remember is that everyone involved is human and has good and bad days.

 

If you are seeking a particular service then it is common sense to follow the reviews where a provider has her services listed in the open. If you are looking for more than just the usual then you will need to read between the lines and trust your instincts. My most trusted and adventurous guests do not review and most are not even involved on the boards.

 

CERB is an excellent jump off point for the beginner, but the reviews written here should not be taken as gospel. YMMV!!! When I recieve a request to meet a new guest and I know they like to write detailed reviews online, I try to refer them to someone who appreciates this kind of attention. Does it mean that providers with limited reviews offer a lesser quality of service? Not always...

 

Catherine

[muff rancher 122]

Reviews are extremely subjective and should always be read with an open mind.

 

 

Well said, Cat. Guys, keep in mind that there are more than a few MPAs and SPs who prefer that you not post reviews about them. Discretion is a vital part of what makes these women professionals at what they do and the best ones frankly don't need great reviews to stay in business. They establish a steady, respectful clientele who value their ability to keep things quiet.

 

Having said that, indeed a great review can sometimes help you make a choice, especially when it's involving someone who is new, but even then it depends on who is doing the reviewing. One great review by a well respected member of cerb is worth a lot more to me than dozens and dozens of nice words by people I've never heard of before. That's the great thing about boards like this one...reputation is everything.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

It depends on what kind of lady you are looking at. If she is new to the business, then it is unlikely to find a review unless a prominent reviewer here has seen her. For the more established indies and agency girls, then you should expect some type of review. However do like the mod suggested and post a question about her. Some are great but have NRP's but others will PM you.

 

One rule of thumb I have is for the ones that post in the announcements section. If one posts her availability and then a bunch of guys post back with 'Wahooo...' type comments, well then they are likely pretty good.

[Seymour 3970]

This is all well and good but remember - if the search does not show results and if no one provides meaningful feedback to a question, then perhaps it is time to take one for the team.

[cat 262460]

This is all well and good but remember - if the search does not show results and if no one provides meaningful feedback to a question, then perhaps it is time to take one for the team.

 

I can't agree with you more! I scan the new posts regularly to stay in the loop. In other parts of the country there are fewer posts and most are simply inquiries about a new ad and if "anyone knows anything" about them. Sometimes there will be 2 or 3 inquiries for the same ad. My first thought is "JUST DO IT ALREADY!" It's like ordering something new off the restaurant menu. You may not like it but at least you tried it. This isn't a long term purchase, it's fun way to spend some time. The results are always one of three things...

 

1. It was great

2. It was ok, but not sure I'd want it again unless I had a hankering

3. Wasn't impressed, wouldn't do it again

 

I worked for 3 years in Ottawa with 1 review on the other board and no board presence at all. Did it mean I don't give good value? Absolutely not! I continued to make a very good living without reviews. It was a rare occurance that someone would ask for reviews, and my answer was always the same..."try to find something out there that is negative from someone who actually has visited me." There is a whole world out there of people (both guests and providers) who choose not to participate on boards and function quite well. My income did not increase significantly when I joined CERB, but the quality of my time did. I feel more connected and really enjoy the interaction. But don't think because a provider isn't reviewed she isn't worthy of your time. She just may choose to stay above the fray because she knows what the other boards are like, and isn't aware of the quality CERB offers.

 

Catherine

[Guest meteor]

An awesome EP, no matter how much the best cerbites may wish to keep her a secret, will always end up getting some positive review.

 

On second hand, can't post negative ones, so the math is simple.

 

m

[cat 262460]

An awesome EP, no matter how much the best cerbites may wish to keep her a secret, will always end up getting some positive review.

 

On second hand, can't post negative ones, so the math is simple.

 

m

 

A negative review can't be posted here, but every other board not only welcomes it but seems to encourage it. If a provider is lacking a negative or mediocre review, the positive reviewers are labeled shills unless they are serious longtime posters. CERB is the only board I have found that has the "say nothing" stance.

 

If a provider requests not to be reviewed she is instantly seen in a negative light. Why wouldn't a girl want every detail of her intimacies out there for her parents, grandparents, children, childrens friends and classmates, boyfriends, husbands, girlfriends and coworkers to read? Who wouldn't want every stroke recorded for the judge in her custody case to JO to while her mothering abilities are in question due to a vindictive spouse? If she's out there the public has a right to know every last detail regardless of the repercussions to her personal life and loved ones!

 

These reviews, while entertaining and informative at times are ticking time bombs waiting to explode when a provider least expects it. We all get outed eventually and the damage these detailed accounts will do is devasting because of societal prejudices. I think asking a provider how she feels about positive reviews is the gentlemanly thing to do before posting one. Negative reviews should be limited to "WILL NOT REPEAT".

 

JMHO

 

Catherine

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

These reviews, while entertaining and informative at times are ticking time bombs waiting to explode when a provider least expects it.

 

While i'm gulity of writing lengthy cowboyfied descriptive reviews, I've always asked the sp if they mind having a review/recomendation posted. In some cases I've even been sought out by an sp to be reviewed, so they know exactly what to expect by way of a reveiw, wich i guess can sometimes read as an advertisement, but not to be confused with shill.

 

It's never been my intent to shame or embarass anyone, and as always ymmv, recomendations are summaries of what happend for my time with the lady and anyone reading should not expect the exact same, every session is different, everyone is different.

[YoungStud 468]

These reviews, while entertaining and informative at times are ticking time bombs waiting to explode when a provider least expects it. We all get outed eventually and the damage these detailed accounts will do is devasting because of societal prejudices.

 

I understand and appreciate your points. I think they are mostly valid ones.

 

However, I'm not sure I agree with your assertion that all escorts "get outed eventually". Or to what degree reviews on boards like CERB may contribute to the outing of those that do.

 

Most SPs do not put their faces on their own websites, though many do have some sort of web presence now which includes an outline, sometimes quite explicit, of the services they offer. Almost all use working names. Often those names will change several times during a career (or a year in some cases).

 

I'm just not sure, for a hypothetical example, that a review about "Angel" who became "Shugar" who became "Joy" who became "V?ronique" etc etc can be tied very easily to a particular individual who may have briefly employed all those names. Especially when other SPs in the same market may have been using similar or identical work names during the same period. (And the pool of potential names sometimes does seem rather limited.)

 

Also, unless someone has some very distinctive body features (tats or scars for e.g.) or actually puts their face on their SP website, I'm not sure how anyone can ID someone positively from visual info on an SP's own website, let alone from words in a review on a board like CERB.

 

Finally, if an SP is posting that she offers (again, for e.g.) DATO and COF on her website, I'm not sure how mentioning those items in a review alters anything.

 

Just my thoughts.

[Seymour 3970]

I see both sides to the coin here. This is a somewhat sensitive topic. When I first started posting, I said right off the bat that I am here to have fun while respecting the ladies. It comes up in conversation - the review topic. If I'm going to post a review or recommendation, then it is always based on how much detail the lady is ok with being revealed. Some are ok with more detail being divulged , others less. So again, I try to provide adequate detail to describe an experience while respecting the wishes and privacy of the lady - and emphasize to the reader - YMMV. Likewise, when a lady feels a certain level of trust and discloses personal information about real name, age, relationships, other - well - I always let her know this stays between us - not everything is meant to be shared.

[YoungStud 468]

I totally agree with you there. There is never any need for review purposes to identify an SP by anything more than her work name and, if an in-call, general reference to location (e.g. Downtown, St. Laurent area, Bayshore area, etc.). If a photo is included, it should only be one already published on the Internet by the SP herself.

 

Likewise, when a lady feels a certain level of trust and discloses personal information about real name, age, relationships, other - well - I always let her know this stays between us - not everything is meant to be shared.

[cat 262460]

I do realize that I come across very strongly on this topic and I make no apologies for it. Here is the history of why. In 2001 I was involved in a custody case and lost my children because I owned an escort agency. No internet, no pictures, no client testimonials, no reviews or recommendations. All they had was a list of ladies that worked with me. Not one of the ladies on the list testified. Not one hard fact was presented to prove anything. It's a moral issue, they don't have to.

 

It wasn't a typical custody case, it was my parents sitting on one side of the court room and my husband and I on the other. Because it wasn't a criminal proceeding, there didn't need to be concrete evidence just simple affidavits with preconcieved ideas and false facts. Never was it proven or even alluded to that I was an unfit mother in any way other than my ownership of the business. Until then, my husband and I were volunteers at the school, drove car pool, tutored and were in everyway attentive and loving parents.

 

I saw my children only thru supervised visitation for two years every second weekend until 2003 and for the last 5 years I have laid eyes on my 3 daughters once. My oldest boarded a plane the day she graduated high school last spring and came home. The other two are stuck in the US and I do not know when I will see them. They are subjected to constant emotional abuse because their "mother is a whore" and their father is a "pimp" (he never had anything to do with my business). If you think because someone doesn't show their face, a tattoo or changes their name they can't be put on trial for societies moral issues...think again. The information on boards can and will hurt people.

 

I have already lost everything that's worth losing, but I will never forget sitting on the stand with a judge (who had been in rehab for cocaine use on more than one occasion) who asked insane questions about the intimacies. He really wanted the juicy details. I saw the questions for what they were, his own morbid fascination not gathering information about my ability as a mother. He didn't want to hear how many hours a week I was at the school in my childrens classrooms or how many special ed children I tutored. He wanted to know how many blowjobs I gave in a week and how many garter belts I owned. What do you think he would do with pages of detailed accounts of my work that can be readily printed out and put in a file?

 

I remember the disbelief in my heart that tore me apart because I knew I was a good mother. No drinking, no drugs, a beautiful home with two parents that loved each other and the children even more. Not perfect, but as perfect as we could make it. I watched as the two people in the world who had betrayed me since the dawn of my memory walked out of the courtroom with my children because of what I do, not who I am, because of societies belief that we are morally corrupt, perverse and twisted beings that could should never be around children. Everything can be distorted to serve a purpose. My custody case was boiled down to someone eluding to base sexual acts for money, dismissing the human element of this industry in its entirety.

 

This is not about the women that welcome the attention. There are some that are open about what they do, some have already lost what is valuable, and those that don't yet have anything to lose. Many of the providers on here are extremely young and naive. They think this will not come back to them at some point, but it will for many. A few may escape the fallout, but from my experience which is long and extensive it is a rare case that gets away unscathed. It could take years, long after she has left the business, but at some point it will surface. There are too many people out there with the ability to find everything and anything.

 

The danger isn't from Joe Public who spots similarities and wonders. It is from someone we take into confidence. All it takes is one disgruntled ex-boyfriend or friend who feels wronged. With revenge in heart, a little time on their hands and her familys contact information, they can hide behind an email address and forward everything they can find to those she loves. Do you think a mother doesn't know her own daughter even if the face isn't showing? The shock is something that will subside, but to have the detailed accounts out there for everyone to read is more than most parents could handle. What if it were you reading about your daughter? Or worse yet, what if it were your daughter reading it about her mother? How do families heal after that kind of trauma? 10 years ago the family would "find out" but it wasn't in their face and it would fade with time. How do words fade when they can be read and reread and the knowledge that anyone can read them is there?

 

I can give you at least a dozen real life situations of girls facing their pasts and none of them are easy to listen to. A few came thru it and triumphed but most are still in the struggles of trying to right their lives because of the results of being outed. And these situations happened before the internet boom so I can't imagine what the next generation will deal with as it happens. I urge everyone to give serious consideration to whats out there because until the attitudes in our society change this business can put everything we love at risk. There is a reason the word "discretion" is used so often. I wonder just how many really understand what it means...

 

Catherine

[Guest hot_lyxxx]

Over a significant number of years, I have felt that "discretion" was paramount for both parties and Catherine's case serves as an excellent example of why it should be paramount. It is and has been for that reason why I rarely post reviews/recommendations (here or elsewhere) be it either at the request of the escort or due to my own volition as one's right to privacy trumps all. CERB is definitely a valuable resource granted, but it nor any other forum should not be used at the expense of one's privacy in order to tell the world about one's head count or intimate/private experiences behind closed doors. The lack of positive reviews does not necessarily imply a poor level of service for the reasons I have stated.

[Guest f***nds4f**]

Reviews are extremely subjective. No review or lack of reviews doesn't mean the services are bad. The reasons were already explained by you guys. I totally agree. But I have limited money and time. Since there are lots of girl having excellent reviews, I would only meet the one with good reviews. Reviews don't have to disclose detail things. If she is highly recommanded by senior members, it is good enough for me.

[alexgrenyait 2186]

hi there

i am probably posting in the wrong section but i have a problem.under my reviews an agency has me posted as working for them that is untrue i am independant and do not work for them.i have emailed them and told them to remove my name and any reviews connected with their agency as i am sure they have made those reviews themself.can you remove this information as it is totally incorrect and not true i am not connected to that agecncy or any agency.thanx alex

[esoterica 624]

It makes my blood boil that people are stigmatized for participating in an act that pragmatically can be described as fulfilling one of Nature's drives. Are we so persecuted for eating, drinking, or (sorry for the crudity), taking a dump (in private <g>)?

 

Catherine's missive is a perfect example of why I have a very negative view of fundamentalism (and I do not particularly mean religious fundamentalism, I include societal fundamentalism), and why I am not fond of North American morals and culture. Those of you who know me have talked about this with me.

 

I read her post with a mixed feeling of revulsion (towards her antagonists), sympathy and anger.

 

Now I am all angry and anti-establishment, grrr.

 

e

[voltio8836 100]

WEll from the dynamics of this forum, "only-positive-or-stfu" style, there isn't really much you can do

 

Again the lot of you are going on about how reviews are subject and implying that they don't carry water. If that's the case then what is the point of reviewing then?

 

Subjective can go both ways. some dude might have actually received crap service but he felt like it was amazing and vice versa.