d*mm*y 887 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 I wanted to add something here about how vitally important the relationship is. In the past month I have visited a few ladies that many of you would not get along with and have not reviewed because of this. I am a strong believer in someone?s Aura, some people believe this is a spiritual energy and others believe it is the outward appearance of someone mood and place in life. Some people believe that it is pure energy that someone set off and some believe it your eye movement the way you smell and the way your body language talks for you. I can look past many things in the environment if the lady has some spark that i can identify. It is amazing what a positive outlook can have on an experience, if you go to see someone with compassion and passion the experience is always heightened. Also we are programmed by our past experiences in this very fast encounters (5 -10 minuets from first encounter to naked and in the throws of a very personal act). Because of this any triggers or reminders that you have from previous programming play a huge roll. You walk in the door and the girl reminds you of your neighbour that you had a huge crush on in High school, or she could bring back a bad memory just as easily no fault of her own. And likewise when we walk in the door some times we bring back memories good or bad. In order for a session to go well there needs to be a happy place that both the client and the SP can find to meet in. I remember one lady a few weeks ago that first said no kissing, I looked at her with a boyish look and ask innocently "why not?", she replied that it was very personal, I looked at her and said we are going to some very personal thing anyway I hope you are up for it, and I touch her face and swept away her hair and she kind of got that look and we DFK'd for about 5 mins before we said anything else. So keep in mind that you may remind her of Uncle Ernie and that can be good or bad depending on the life experiences with Uncle Ernie were. It is best to try and read her as you come in and try to get on her good side as soon as possible you only have an hour to make it right. It is interesting to note that the best ladies with the most recommendation have there own places they go to that make them happy when you arrive, and unless you are a real dick they will not stray form the job at hand. These are the ladies that I consistently endorse and they are easy to distinguish, usually a big kiss before they even really see what you look like. At the same time ladies, if you can get some things that consistently turn you on and you can jump to those places in your head when we visit it would be a better experience for us to. I don?t care if the vision is you in a field with 50 Horney goats or in the ladies room of an all girl soccer team getting it from all the girls, just find that happy place. Of course I am sure that for some of the ladies it in my arms romantically intertwined on dessert beach! And the other guys won?t mind I promise J I would be interested in knowing how others have crossed these unchartered waters and won, and ladies if there are any secrets that help you, that you are alright to share (I do understand your silence if the goats work for you!). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antlerman 17064 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 very serious there again Dummpy....did you take birth control pills instead of aspirin by mistake again?....your hormones seem to be in a state of flux.......:?: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubJunky 1954 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Dummpy are you having an out of body experience??? For one, if the girl I meet is classy then everything else for me will fall into place. My ideal encounter is to please and be pleased and somedays I think I should get paid as well, then I realize I'm the client. rub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d*mm*y 887 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Man does it read that bad! OK reread it with a vision of a fat bald dwarf with a cup of coffee and a dozen cream filled donuts, wearing homer Simpson slippers and a worn red bath rob on! Does it still seem so scary? I guess my point is I have been trying some of the badly reviewed ladies and they have not been that bad. Maybe my standards are just to low :D Also how do the well reviewed ladies keep it always on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungStud 468 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 With regard to level of standards, I'm reminded of that old Jon Lovitz schtick on Saturday Night Live, in which he would do a monologue on some very improbable or ridiculous situation or experience involving trying attract members of the opposite sex, the punch line for which would always be, "That's my point exactly. Just lower your standards!" But seriously folks, I think, whether fueled by birth control pills or cream-filled donuts (where did that cream cum from Dummpy?), Dummpy makes a good point. It never hurts to be nice, it never hurts to try to try to see things from her point of view and it never hurts to ask. Simply by doing those things I've occasionally been able to transform what had been advertised as a very safe GFE into a pretty wild PSE at no extra charge. You can, to some extent, control the chemistry if you make the effort. But if you just show up and figure "I'm paying for this, so you'll do whatever I want b__ch for a big porno stud like me", YMMV. So I agree recommendations can only go so far. The rest is up to personal expectations and - very important - attitude. Man does it read that bad! OK reread it with a vision of a fat bald dwarf with a cup of coffee and a dozen cream filled donuts, wearing homer Simpson slippers and a worn red bath rob on! Does it still seem so scary?I guess my point is I have been trying some of the badly reviewed ladies and they have not been that bad. Maybe my standards are just to low :D Also how do the well reviewed ladies keep it always on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) This is very interesting. Having a positive attitute sure goes a long way. There are a few things I like to do to help make the meeting a positive one. To start with I always see a lady with the intent of repeating. That, to me, makes me look for all her more positive features/personnality traits so there are things I am looking forward to, for another visit. When I set up a first meeting, I keep questions to a minimum. I often book on a first e-mail/phone call unless timings don't match. I don't play detective and ask for every details about the lady and her service. If I contacted her there was something that attracted me in her pic so I don't ask for more pics unless she gives me a website. I trust what she writes about her service(GFE or PSE) so I avoid making her feel like I am doubting her. When I arrive for the appointment, I will settle finances if the lady wants it done upon arrival (most do) then I try taking it slow and avoid getting immediately into asking detailed questions about service. I prefer to ask how her day was and get to know her some without being too nosy. Then I go with the flow. I don't expect things to be the same as someone else, who wrote a recommendation, or like the meeting I had with another SP. If things were the same all the time I would only see the same lady. I also try to compliment the ladies on her best traits. Some have gorgeous eyes that attract me, others it is their wonderful smile, there is always something I like best. One lady I keep telling her every time she is the best at DFK Hmmmm. Flattery always work with women and these ladies are great women. I always thank the lady when I leave and let her know I will be seeing her again in most cases. (I did have a few not so good encounters). I also try to ask if they want to be reviewed or not, but some times I do forget. (Too busy smiling). I also send her a Thank you note, soon as possible after returning home. This is important to me as I want the lady to know I meant what I said when I left her place. I even do that for every repeat meeting. In summary, I do my best to be attentive to the lady and not just think of my needs. I try to be a Gentlemen from first contact onward. Not sure how good that is but I certainly have not received any complaints or been told by a lady to move on after the first appointment. Edited October 14, 2008 by loneskater Spell check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour 3970 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) Attitude, chemistry, personality, combined. These three are the foundation for any and all encounters. Top it off with top notch hygiene and unless you took sleeping pills you should have a good time. If you are in a bad mood or are too aggressive etc, you are likely not helping your situation. I understand dummpy your reference to that happy place and I too would like to hear from the ladies about how they do it. Without hearing their feedback just yet, are we (as clients) any different? I mean we, like them, meet strangers and get intimate within 10-15 minutes. One can argue that we too do get into 'character'. In all my experiences, I've only had one person in mind and that is the lady I was with at the time - not someone else, and certainly not 50 goats. (Exception being if I were having a duo) :-P Sometimes, for various reasons, (hey we are human), we do step out of that 'character' and yes it is good to see the person behind the fantasy. Edited October 14, 2008 by Seymour include text in italics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p22*** 236 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 I drug my client's with my hormones to keep up the good reviews..God bless the hormones... kisses and licks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spud271 47779 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 I've been at this a long time, and the first thing I realized was you will not connect with every SP you meet. I have had some amazing experiences and some absolutely terrible ones! You just have to take it all with a grain of salt and not worry about it or get upset, you can't always click with everyone. I clicked huge with a young lady in Montreal a couple of years ago and she will purposely make time for me and has come to Ottawa just to see me. I recently had one hear in Ottawa where it was completely awkward in teenager kinda way and I loved every minute of it. The next one could be a disaster, I've just learned never to take it personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esoterica 624 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 I drug my client's with my hormones to keep up the good reviews..God bless the hormones... kisses and licks I can definitely believe that!!!! I need more of Paige's hormones! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted October 14, 2008 The big lesson I've learned is not to go in with too much in the way of set expectations. Instead just let the moment take its course and roll with things. If you expect a loving GFE and instead meet up with one that instead looks at you and says 'come on, get naked' then you will not enjoy the encounter. In general I find many of the bad reviews are written by guys that don't see alot of girls. They have a fairly big financial or emotional investment in that one encounter. When it doesn't go completely as they want, they get very upset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 I drug my client's with my hormones to keep up the good reviews..God bless the hormones... kisses and licks I have been puzzling over your magic secret for ages. Finally now I know it is the hormones. And I thought it was your whip!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akhenaton 221 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 LOL Paige, your "adrenaline rushes" are quite contagious ;) (and lots of fun too ! lol) I drug my client's with my hormones to keep up the good reviews..God bless the hormones... kisses and licks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akhenaton 221 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Have you ever heard of a "hormone dipped' cat'o nine tails ;) I have been puzzling over your magic secret for ages. Finally now I know it is the hormones. And I thought it was your whip!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akhenaton 221 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Unfortunately a very valid point, if you only have the one encounter available for x amount of time, then your expectations go on the rise, as do your chances for dissappointment, but I have seen the odd frequent flyer that simply expects everything to be on the menu for a price, well, not always, especially if you come accross as the bad "uncle" figure... as the saying goes, "give what you would like to receive" so be nice, and they'll (usually) be nice in return. The big lesson I've learned is not to go in with too much in the way of set expectations. Instead just let the moment take its course and roll with things. If you expect a loving GFE and instead meet up with one that instead looks at you and says 'come on, get naked' then you will not enjoy the encounter. In general I find many of the bad reviews are written by guys that don't see alot of girls. They have a fairly big financial or emotional investment in that one encounter. When it doesn't go completely as they want, they get very upset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thor619 132 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 I'm in favour of the Chemistry being right!!! I am a new hobbiest but have a lot of experience with strip clubs. In a club there are lots of attractive women. Many times I have spent time with a lovely girl, but after one or two dances there's no real chemistry and it's over. On other occasions I will spend a whole afternoon or evening with one girl and hate to say goodbye. To me this seems normal. How do I tranfer this approach to hobbying? I go entirely on recommendations. I look for the recommendations that emphasize the relationship or connection side. I book them for lunch or dinner first. Only if I feel there is a connection, will I take the next step. I think some of them think I'm crazy, but it can actually be fun spending a couple of hours just getting to know someone. (I'm self employed so I can do that.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spud271 47779 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 That's not actually a bad approach thor, expensive, but if you are looking for an amazing experience that's a great way to find out if you click with them. Trust me when I say strip club girls and sp's are very diferent! I had a great encounter once after I got divorced at the NuDen that I've told all my friends about over and over again! In general though, they are few and far between. I'm sorta new to the Ottawa scene as well. Spent all my time with Montreal girls, but alas like every other woman in my life it was time to move on to something new, and let me tell you there are some wonderful women in Ottawa! Play around for now and you might get lucky and build some great chemistry with a couple of ladies in town. Treat them with a lot of respect and the chemistry will come! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 I think some of them think I'm crazy, but it can actually be fun spending a couple of hours just getting to know someone. (I'm self employed so I can do that.) This is certainly not crazy. Sps/MPs and dancers are not numbers. They are real people who do have lives and are interesting to spend time with outside of the bedroom. I have met SPs outside of the business and always had a great time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Have you ever heard of a "hormone dipped' cat'o nine tails ;) I must say I have never heard of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest f***2f*** Report post Posted October 15, 2008 With regard to level of standards, I'm reminded of that old Jon Lovitz schtick on Saturday Night Live, in which he would do a monologue on some very improbable or ridiculous situation or experience involving trying attract members of the opposite sex, the punch line for which would always be, "That's my point exactly. Just lower your standards!" But seriously folks, I think, whether fueled by birth control pills or cream-filled donuts (where did that cream cum from Dummpy?), Dummpy makes a good point. It never hurts to be nice, it never hurts to try to try to see things from her point of view and it never hurts to ask. Simply by doing those things I've occasionally been able to transform what had been advertised as a very safe GFE into a pretty wild PSE at no extra charge. You can, to some extent, control the chemistry if you make the effort. But if you just show up and figure "I'm paying for this, so you'll do whatever I want b__ch for a big porno stud like me", YMMV. So I agree recommendations can only go so far. The rest is up to personal expectations and - very important - attitude. One sp told me about a guy she chucked out and threw his money after him who showed up with a huge tude like you mention. he told her she would do exactly as he said cause he was paying and shut the fuck up.....that did not go down well and he was asked to leave...he wasn't happy but eventually did go after a lot of shouting and threatening...not a nice situation for an sp. If she even gets a hint that you are going to be a dick she is well within her rights to tell you to hit the road. Other sps have told me that they sometimes get guys with hygiene problems....most times a shower can help but sometimes the lack of concern for one's hygience can be a huge turnoff for the ladies. Personally i've found that honesty, consideration and making sure the lady is open to what is going on go a long way. I too have had some bad experiences but mostly good and reflect well on the young ladies in the industry here in Ottawa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulixestrojan 3757 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 A smile and a friendly demeanor can go a long way. A twinkle in the eye and lick of the lips can take you further. Whether you are a woman I want to sleep with or a client that I want for business, good energy, good focus, and knowing when to say no and when to say yes is almost everything - the rest is detail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Each and every person is special....some have the looks,some have the stamina,some have humor,some have the smarts and some just have it all. Beauty is a good thing,chemistry is great but its all in the person. I see beauty in everyone. Beauty weather it is on the outside or inside...everyone has something different to offer. I do not think of anyone but the person i am with{sometimes persons}. I love to get lost in him. Forget everything else. just go with the flow....relax and enjoy... kisses, Emma A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misterdynomite30 174 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 When i see 'recommended' on here.. i think right off the bat : "whew..ok so she isn't a prank ad.. ok good. we have that established" then i give them a try and come to my own conclusion based on my own personal experience as each opinion i've heard of other women leaves out a lot of detail from the man's point of view. (i.e If the man had a bad experience and it was due to him not smelling good or just being rude... and him leaving out those details and just saying 'she had a poor attitude' and leaving it at that) I think theres a bigger advantage now with the net than before. You can actually windowshop and check up on SP's to see feedback and who does what and who doesn't. Hell, I didn't even know what "GFE" or those other terms meant until i came on cerb. I didn't even know that type of service exsisted until a month ago. Im sooo out of the loop. :oops: But yeah back to the subject.. I think it's easier to shop for potential chemistry (for lack of a better term) moreso now than before the net where you didn't get to see the SP until she showed up to your door and you kinda just made the best of the awkward situation. (which still kind of happens sometimes... but there are more options now whereas that was the only way before) I don't know if 'chemistry' is exactly something i would realistically put extremely high on the list. I'd be just happy enough to find an SP whom i found friendly, attractive, who's feedback as far as attitude was nothing short of "she loves her work and it shows".. and of course, respect (from both parties) in terms of attitude, appearance and just being clean. I dunno... expecting immediate genuine chemistry is a little unrealistic to me. Either that or i'm mistaking what specific type of 'chemistry' we are talking about here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kih 458 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 The big lesson I've learned is not to go in with too much in the way of set expectations. Instead just let the moment take its course and roll with things. If you expect a loving GFE and instead meet up with one that instead looks at you and says 'come on, get naked' then you will not enjoy the encounter. In general I find many of the bad reviews are written by guys that don't see alot of girls. They have a fairly big financial or emotional investment in that one encounter. When it doesn't go completely as they want, they get very upset. Ottcat, I have a similar believe. Additionally, I also noticed that many negative experiences come from half hour apts which leaves very little time to break the ice with the SP and move on to the experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest f***2f*** Report post Posted October 15, 2008 :mrgreen:yeah half an hour is not a good judge of a girls talent....why not just go find a glory hole?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
