boxtrain 110 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 with the economy the way it is, most people are taking a cut in their disposable income. I presume that some of the smart ladies will also be recognizing that lower rates will also result in appts from hobbiests. Everyone needs o adjust to the times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caveman 147 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 I think the rules of supply and demand still apply, and I think there was a thread a while back talking about the fact that continuous demand in Ottawa keeps the prices where they are. While some people may start hobbying less, I kind of doubt it...I'm guessing that most of the regular hobbyists have reasonably secure jobs (or other sources of income) that are unlikely to be substantially affected by the economic troubles we're rolling into... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
o*****j***e 136 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 I think the rules of supply and demand still apply, and I think there was a thread a while back talking about the fact that continuous demand in Ottawa keeps the prices where they are. While some people may start hobbying less, I kind of doubt it...I'm guessing that most of the regular hobbyists have reasonably secure jobs (or other sources of income) that are unlikely to be substantially affected by the economic troubles we're rolling into...[/quote Yes, supply and demand is still Ottawa's positive factor for the SP's here. As the economy stands now in Ottawa, it does not affect the SP's donations. They have no obligation to lower prices. Myself being very active in the real estate/development industry in ottawa, the media exagerates very negativly the current state of our economy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubrickfan 12836 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 I think there might be something to this, although I also obviously agree with the concepts of supply and demand and being independent, so as the price drops, there will also likely be less of a supply of SPs, as some might decide there is a bottom line price that they are willing to charge, and after that they are not willling to supply the service. I'm not saying prices cant drop, I just dont think it will be that dramatic. I do recall French Kiss Society in Montreal posting a message recently talking about the tough economic times, but I dont see them dropping their prices a lot, although that's only one firm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Passmore 100 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 Personally I would not like to see the Ottawa market price drop too much. Not to be rude or short with anyone, but we are not buying cars here. If the price drops the incentive to put ones all into what they do will go down with it. I'm a quality rather then a quantity kind of guy. I would rather cut back on my end then see the quality of service falter. We have worked too hard and waited too long to see things get as good as we have them here now. P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 If the ladies feel the impact (Business slows down significantly) you will see lower prices but not until it effects them directly - new people enter into the business when the employment rate drops causing more competition.... so the ladies would get hit from two sides (Less guys spending money and more girls working in the same area) Good news is right now business is good for most of the ladies and guys are still spending money for the most part so I don't think your going to see a drop any time soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 Well said MOD, I tend to believe that the Ottawa market itself, has greatly increase with business. There is always new SP's locally, I also believe there is more ladies touring into Ottawa than the past years. MP's are also on the increase, which is always nice to see as well.Therefore men should not have to answer to certain polls about masturbation.:boobies: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7335 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRman 536 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 I agree with Mod. Trouble is many of the new sp's are just passing through. I would have suspected (no offence intended to anyone nor the industry) that strip clubs may be less busy. Some of the girls still need an income and perhaps move within the industry. I AM NOT saying that strip club girls follow any intended line of work. I have noticed some decrease in prices for some girls. Must admit though - I am hobbying way less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest i***k*** Report post Posted January 7, 2009 When the ladies earn less per encounter it means they have to see more gentlemen to maintain their current lifestyle. I prefer a lady that does not "have" to stay busy because the care that is put into your date, in most cases, reflects this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted January 7, 2009 When the ladies earn less per encounter it means they have to see more gentlemen to maintain their current lifestyle. I prefer a lady that does not "have" to stay busy because the care that is put into your date, in most cases, reflects this. They can *ask* a certain amount and we are obliged to give at least that amount. Nothing stopping us from giving more [1]. [1] I'm pretty sure the regulars tip and tip well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour 3970 Report post Posted January 8, 2009 I agree with Mod. Trouble is many of the new sp's are just passing through. I would have suspected (no offence intended to anyone nor the industry) that strip clubs may be less busy. Some of the girls still need an income and perhaps move within the industry. The SPs that are as you put it, passing through, unless they are serious about providing quality service will not get any recommendations on here and thus limited business or repeat business. So they will either change their quality of service or quit. So the following will likely happen - the new hobbyists or those that are cutting back on spending will not TOFTT, they will stick to the providers recommended by the 'heavy hitters' here. Providers recommended here by any and many of the 'heavy hitters' will likely receive an increase in business as hobbyists on a limited budget seek a quality experience as opposed to taking chance with a new/less recommended provider - meaning it could become more difficult to book with certain providers unless you book way in advance. All this will have very little effect on the donations (in Ottawa) unless of course the economy is more @ucked that they are letting on, in which case we have bigger problems than worrying about luxuries like this hobby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d*mm*y 887 Report post Posted January 8, 2009 They can *ask* a certain amount and we are obliged to give at least that amount. Nothing stopping us from giving more [1]. [1] I'm pretty sure the regulars tip and tip well. This is true in fact if the lady provides the level of service that I have become accustomed to enjoy she will get the premium rate that I have become accustomed to paying. I think that some ladies have increased their prices recently not decreased them! And I am on a budget here, definitely feeling the pinch in my business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p22*** 236 Report post Posted January 8, 2009 I adjusted my prices to cut down emails and regulate the amount of business that I want to attract. I think that goes for most Sp's in this field. Hope this helps... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 That is what most of the ladies tell me they do. When it slows down and they need more work the price drops and when they get too much the increase prices. (Supply and demand?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d*mm*y 887 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 You are doing the right thing Piage, I have flexible rates and when business is good they go up. I adjusted my prices to cut down emails and regulate the amount of business that I want to attract.I think that goes for most Sp's in this field. Hope this helps... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 I know as a fact that business has gone done significantly for the nude dancers (also kind of service providers) since October. I have heard this fact from a large number of dancers and so I believe it to be true. I anticipate that if economy continues to do down, it will affect escorts too if it has not already. It may not be for any real reason causing this (people losing their jobs), but rather the psychology, which means there will be so much negativity around for the next 6 to 12 months that even people with jobs and no pay cuts will cut spending on entertainment fearing a possible loss of their jobs in near future. whether escorts will ask for less donations as a result, my guess is, likely not (again from SC scenario that even though dancers complaining that they don't make as much as 6 months ago, but not any of them is offering a less than usual $20 dance). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest i***k*** Report post Posted January 9, 2009 I know as a fact that business has gone done significantly for the nude dancers (also kind of service providers) since October. I have heard this fact from a large number of dancers and so I believe it to be true. I anticipate that if economy continues to do down, it will affect escorts too if it has not already. It may not be for any real reason causing this (people losing their jobs), but rather the psychology, which means there will be so much negativity around for the next 6 to 12 months that even people with jobs and no pay cuts will cut spending on entertainment fearing a possible loss of their jobs in near future. whether escorts will ask for less donations as a result, my guess is, likely not (again from SC scenario that even though dancers complaining that they don't make as much as 6 months ago, but not any of them is offering a less than usual $20 dance). There will always be money for this industry, and when things are bad for folks they generally seek the comfort of someone. So I wouldn't be surprised if things were busier... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungStud 468 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 Yep, I agree. Though folks might be more inclined to more particular about their purchases, which could weed out the amateurs from the experts a bit. (Love your new ID pic, BTW, Inaluki. Much better than a car. lol) There will always be money for this industry, and when things are bad for folks they generally seek the comfort of someone. So I wouldn't be surprised if things were busier... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d*mm*y 887 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 Lets not forget we are in Ottawa, compared to the rest of the country there is really no recession here at all. The standard market indicators show that Ottawa is ahead of the curve financially, new homes starts are up 30% for the spring! just as one example. So I don't think many of us are actually notice a major down turn, for me it is always slow this time of year, but no more so than last year or the year before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I have not had the opportunity to see clients this year yet. A number of personal things came up, as well, I was sick. I'm only just starting again this week. I have noticed a slight decline, but on the whole, I don't think the market had as much to do with it as did my lack of self-promotion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites