Street walker got me for $80

[dreamer8 510]

I saw a cute slim girl who turned out to be 28 (or so she said).

 

I stoped on a side street (kirkwood/marivel) to pick her up ... she has shorter multi coloured hair with super slim legs and bum (teen body) maybe 5'1" to 5'4" ... 100 lbs

 

I should have known the deal was too good to be true: $80 for the whole night!

She told me that she was renting a room in the basement of a house and to hold her hand when we entered so I looked like her bf

She told me she recently managed a pet food store and she was just doing this to make ends meet.

She asked for the money in the car as we parked in the lane of a house not far from where I picked her up.

 

I gave her the money and as we got out of the car she bolted down the street and into a near by apt building. I was in shock and as soon as she rounded the corner smiled and kissed my $80 good by.

 

the only solace I got was that if she were honest she would have gotten an amazing review here and before long her phone would be ringing off the hook, instead she must now find more suckers and always look over her shoulder that one of her next would be victims is not actually someone she had already riped off.

 

so the lesson here is when ever your buying from the street expect the unexpected ... don't pay until your comfortable and at the place your going to proceed. You often get what you pay for and if a deal is too good to be true like this one it often is.

 

Personally the $80 did not hurt me it was more that I could be so stupid to not see it coming as this is not the first time this has been done or tried on me.

 

good luck, be safe and remember buying from the street is like toftt each and every time.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Not to be critical (just curious) as I don't see it my business but picking up street walker (as you described her) :shock:. I think that you are lucky that what you lost was only money and only $80. You would have lost a lot more if she was a cop instead of a crook as solicitation in a public place is totally ilegal not to mention the possiblity of catching God knows what type of stds:!:.

 

What I don't understand is why pick up street walkers when instead one can pick up a phone and call the favorite escort. So many are on cerb and many more advertising on Escorts Canada and CL most of them with pictures, not to mention strip bars.

[jimjac 100]

But $80 dollars is a good deal! thats only 4 lap dances

[Capital Hunter 18263]

But $80 dollars is a good deal! thats only 4 lap dances

 

Normally when it is too good to be true it most likely is . And even if it is true, is it worth all the risks.

[d*mm*y 887]

I remember when it was the only game in town, and my first several times were with street walkers. I don't think it is as big and scary as everyone puts it out to be. At the end of the day all kinds of ladies from very nice ones to total wacko's do this business on the street on the phone and the internet, I think it is no less dangerous to let total strangers know were you live. At least on the street it is very anonymous. Funny thing I was driving down Gladstone at 5:00pm 3 summers ago and found an ex girlfriend we reconnected, she has cleaned up moved on and had a kid but if I had not seen her that day I would always wonder what happened to her, now through the miracle of the internet we regularly exchange emails and pictures (not those kind you dirty pervs!!)

[JustJack 4689]

What I don't understand is why pick up street walkers when instead one can pick up a phone and call the favorite escort. So many are on cerb and many more advertising on Escorts Canada and CL most of them with pictures, not to mention strip bars.

 

I can't speak for the original poster but for some, sometimes there is a certain thrill in living dangerously, not that his experience is that dangerous.

[Seymour 3970]

It is just the thrill of the hunt, you know nothing ventured, nothing gained. Now, some may not hunt in this fashion and remember here on CERB we do not judge, but good on dreamer for posting. It reminds us, if nothing there is that element out there who will screw you (and not in the good sense). Sometimes -when you least expect to get ripped off, you can get ripped off. Again - for all the lurkers out there of the female gender - a recommendation by a heavy hitter here will improve your business. Her loss.

[mod 135640]

Keep in mind that most streetwalkers are in a very bad place - no one works the streets because they like to do they? I don't think so. I know every rule has exceptions but I can't see someone hooking because they want to.

 

Most of the streetwalkers are mixed up with drugs & pimps, many are underage girls and most are in a really bad financial situation and by picking them up you really are taking advantage of that.

 

It's not a good life for any of the women and it adds to the already VERY bad stereotypes that plague the escorts/callgirls/courtesans (Like the ladies we have on cerb here).

 

The general public are often not able to differentiate between streetwalkers and escorts (they group them all together) so it causes a horrible stereotype for the legit ladies.

 

Most of the negative stereotypes come from problems with street level prostitution as most of the really bad stuff happens at that level and you will find that most of the stereotypes are very true when you discuss streetwalkers and very opposite when you discuss the legit escorts and SP's that you find online.

 

For heath reasons, You do have a much higher risk of STI/STD infection from having sex or any sexual acts with a streetwalker. Remember her living conditions are probably bad and hygiene and safety are not on the top of the list when you are addicted to heavy drugs. The only think on your mind is your next hit. If that doesn't stop you think about this... if your addicted to drugs and supporting your drug habit with streetwalking are you going to let a little think like a period get in the way of your next fix? (Just something for any of you guys thinking that 80.00 a night is a good deal)

 

As mentioned it is also illegal and highly policed in most cities.

 

Supporting streetwalkers is only helping support the pimps and drug dealers and the negative stereotypes that this industry has to deal with. Most of the time the women never see a penny of the money they make as the pimps take it all.

 

Most of you probably know all this already but maybe it will help you think twice about doing it in the future.

 

I (and many of the members I am sure) would prefer that this site be about escorts/courtesans/callgirls (Not streetwalkers) - technically they are service providers but I sure others feel the way that I do and think it is inappropriate discussion for this site.

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

Street walker + computer = cerb member

 

I'm not saying all cerb members are streetwalkers, but all you need to get here is a computer. Computers get cheaper and cheaper all the time, they are no longer an elite toy. They are just about as common as a cheap calculator now.

 

Prove to me that ****************** yesterday? (Comment removed by the mod as it's causing some really bad vibes)

 

 

Capitalman,

there's just something about your response that seems so wrong....am i reading it wrong or are you comparing us to computers????

[caveman 147]

....am i reading it wrong or are you comparing us to computers????

 

Wait, I thought is was us guys with the RAM, hard drives and external interfaces! :-)

 

(sorry, I just couldn't let that one go by...)

[dreamer8 510]

Wow I was not expecting so much attention to a warring ... I thought it would go unnoticed and unread.

 

too my critics: yes I can't spell, I am easly distracted by the silloute of a spinner on the side of the road on my way home .... If you read my originial posts from 2+ years ago they were almost always about streetwalkers (it's true they were the only game in town years ago), I did get suckered and that is probably becasue I am out of pratice with them.

 

To my supporters: thanks for seeing the value in this post

 

To MOD: It is a rare ocassion that I disagree with your views but today is one of them.

Streetwalkers are people too, just becasue they have not been able to promote themselves in the paper or online doesn't mean they are any better or worse of an individual or any more or less of a risk ... infact it doesn't even confirm or disprove that they have a pimp taking all their money. I personally have seen many cases to disprove your statments on both sides (amazing street girls and well promoted escorts with pimps/drugs problems /that steel).

 

I can understand your intrest in not promoting streetwalkers and I will respect your wishess but you should see this thread if anything as a public service anouncement against using streetwalkers as you can get riped off.

[dreamer8 510]

Capitalman,

there's just something about your response that seems so wrong....am i reading it wrong or are you comparing us to computers????

 

I think you may have missed his meaning ... he is saying that a street walker could become a cerb member the only thing they would need is a computer.

 

the truth is now a cell phone with web enabled service is all you need or you could go to a computer cafe and for $3/hr your in business so to speak ;)

[d*mm*y 887]

Street walker + computer = cerb member

 

I'm not saying all cerb members are streetwalkers, but all you need to get here is a computer. Computers get cheaper and cheaper all the time, they are no longer an elite toy. They are just about as common as a cheap calculator now.

 

Prove to me that ****************** yesterday? (Comment removed by the mod as it's causing some really bad vibes)

 

I think you may have missed his meaning ... he is saying that a street walker could become a cerb member the only thing they would need is a computer.

 

the truth is now a cell phone with web enabled service is all you need or you could go to a computer cafe and for $3/hr your in business so to speak ;)

 

I do know one lady that I saw last fall and she is on cerb through her cell phone and it is pay as you go. I saw another lady who posted a few times on CL who turned out to be a crack addict and I even had a review up here until I met her the second time and realized she was an addict. Both of these meetings were through the internet one from cerb and one from CL and both involved drugs and pimps, in fact I would suggest that at least 30% of the ladies on this board are in a pimp relationship and at least half of them don't know it. No one would knowingly go to work for a pimp, you realize after 5 or 6 months that the reality of thier action is not the same as the words of the promises.

 

Yes Street level prostitution is a problem, my ex GF (the one I found walking the street 3 summers ago) once she found me found a supporter who unconditionally supported her, I was part of a safety net that got her into rehab and now she is clean and has been so for 3 years. She has tried many times and fallen off the wagon many times (she is almost 40 now), but every year she is clean is a win. These people are people and deserve our support, I do not believe that giving them $40 for BJ is supporting them however. Telling them that there is a place that is safe and resources that they can use to get out of it is important, they will eventually come around it may take months it may take years. That girl I met on CL I call once a month and ask her if she OK or if she wants out yet, I am there if she ever wants to make her way out. She has given me 2 new numbers and stayed in touch even though she knows I will not support her habit, she knows that I am safe.

 

I am not stupid enough to get duped into a money grab, the only support I offer women in this situation is to drop them at the detox centre and get them in touch with the street outreach program, full stop end of story. That is what works, and that is what I am willing to do, any time of day or night, any day they just have to ask. For anyone in this situation, Ladies that are in this situation feel trapped because they may have warrants for there arrest and many enemies they don't want to go to jail or get beaten and labeled a RAT, if you turn yourself in at the detox center and employ the street workers out reach team the courts are very compassionate and may order a drug rehabilitation camp but you need it anyway! The charges are usually dropped or turned into parole and you can turn a new leaf and start your life over again, as far as friends and a community there is a great NA prgram here and they will chase off the undersirables for you. If you can keep clean for 7 years all is forgiven. After 3 years you can lead a very normal life and if you are enterprising you can have a full life with no thoughts or reminders of your past after 5 years. I know in junky terms that 6 months is a life time but it really is worth it otherwise within 3-5 year you are dead.

 

Junkies have a death wish, they feel totally useless and a complete waist of space, they can't even commit suicide so this is the easy way out, get totally wasted and in a short while the drugs and street will kill you. Low self esteem is one of the silent killers of our society it starts with us, we need to ensure that everyone feels value and everyone feels they have a chance to contribute. The second we label one person not equal it all comes unglued it is fair to express disappointment in someone’s actions but not if you don't have a suggestion to improve it, if you can't help than don't just condemn.

 

I apologize for the rant but it seems that we don’t want to think this issue through. Just my 2 cents worth.

[JustJack 4689]

I (and many of the members I am sure) would prefer that this site be about escorts/courtesans/callgirls (Not streetwalkers) - technically they are service providers but I sure others feel the way that I do and think it is inappropriate discussion for this site.

 

As a new member, here my observation is that the members of CERB are very appreciative of all the work the Mod provides for the site and that the Mod is highly respected by the members.

 

Having said that, I feel like I walk on EggShells here for fear of posting the wrong thing or doing something wrong.

 

For the record, I disagree that Site Management would restrict discussion on certain subjects which seem to be relevant to some members.

 

 

 

Jack

[caveman 147]

Having said that, I feel like I walk on EggShells here for fear of posting the wrong thing or doing something wrong.

 

Jack, there's no reason to walk on eggshells or worry about doing something wrong...just treat everyone with respect and speak to them as you'd like others to speak to you. It's not rocket science... :-)

 

The reason that the rules exist on this site is because some people have difficulties treating others with respect, especially when they are anonymous--these are the people that only "behave" in real life because there are consequences to not behaving, rather than because they'd like to be good people. In a consequence-free environment, their real personalities come out and that can result in a lot of hurtful and disrespectful discussion (I'm using "discussion" very loosely here). Every once in a while, I check out some of the other boards, and I don't find them anywhere near as helpful or as fun as CERB, as they seem to get a little inundated with flame wars and immature comments that don't exactly encourage straightforward discussion between hobbyists and SPs.

 

I'm a reasonably new member as well (a few months now), and I certainly haven't felt that I've been restricted in what I can ask about or discuss. The mod doesn't restrict discussion on relevant topics, but he's commenting in this thread that he believes the membership would like to keep this Escort Recommendation Board about escorts/courtesans, and not about street walkers (which I personally agree with). If he were to restrict the discussion, he would have just deleted the thread, which he has very rightly done in the past when people have made some nasty comments.

 

Ultimately, if you make honest and sincere comments that are not intended to be hurtful or disrespectful, you'll be fine. Even if someone takes what you say as disrespectful, or in a way you didn't intend, you can simply apologize for the misunderstanding and move on. As long as you're not intending anything hurtful, that is... :-)

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

I feel like I walk on EggShells here for fear of posting the wrong thing or doing something wrong.

 

Me too. No matter how careful one thinks one is with the wording of a post, not everyone will wind up reading it in the same spirit the writer intended it to be read. This is inevitable, I suppose. Folks are a diverse lot, bringing with them many different bents of mind -- a variety that can never be completely foreseeable to the poster. A big risk in written forms of communication in general.

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

I wasn't comparing anyone to computers. I think Emma knows this, and I didn't take offense to her reply or anyone elses. I hope you didn't take offense to mine. I'm just voicing my opinion, like any asshole. :)

 

If I had to compare Emma to a computer, she'd be a sleek laptop....something I would love to have but haven't got one yet!

 

 

i love ya Cap....kisses

[mod 135640]

Yes Dreamer, they are people too. I could not agree with you more. The problem is many of them are not doing this willingly (That is the BIG difference). When you pick one up are you taking advantage of her circumstance and exploiting her? No matter how you justify it if she is in a bad situation / circumstance and is not streetwalking because she wants to be than you are taking advantage of that person (another human being). Exceptions do exist (as I already stated) but most of the women on the street are not in a good place and from a brief sexual encounter do you really know?

 

Cap: any lady who works on the street and goes out and buys a computer is the exception to the rule - and chances are she is looking for a better lifestyle and is improving her situation. I would welcome anyone like that to the site with open arms as I am sure most of our members would.

 

Most of the time the money goes to things like pimps and drugs when you are dealing with streetwalkers. Most have very poor living conditions (sometimes homeless).

 

I grew up in Toronto and maybe it's a little different in Ottawa but I do visit Ottawa often and from what I have seen it does not look much different. You see the women on the streets and a block or two away you see the pimps. I have a friend who lives right down in the bad area of Ottawa and tells me some pretty nasty stuff.

 

I really wish this was the case and I am sure some of the SP's who now have computers and even members here may have once been working on the street and found a way to make a better life for themselves. A handful of ladies have told me they started on the street and hated it but were able to escape the streets and make a better life for themselves (but again - it's the exception to the rule). Most of them say that they were lucky to escape the streets when they tell this story.

 

As for not discussing streetwalkers on the site I think the ladies who are members here don't want to see posts encouraging guys to go pay 30.00 for a bj - in fact a previous very popular thread causes a LARGE number of the ladies to PM me in distaste that I was allowing that thread. I let it go as it was 3 pages long before I even read it and it looked like you were all helping a lady who was looking for a way out (and you did).

 

You guys want a SP friendly site where the ladies are comfortable and where they can come and join the discussions with you. I am working hard to make that work for you all and having this topic on the site is not going to help but will hinder these efforts.

 

Obviously it is a controvercial issue and we do not all agree - I don't expect everyone to agree with me. In fact I would not be needed here if everyone agreed with me. I am just looking out for what I beleive is in the best interest of the website and online community.

 

I have been asked a number of times to put a section in for streetwalkers and I said no every time as I would personally feel horrible for encouraging street level prostitution. I have heard first hand horror stories for over 20 years from ladies who worked on the streets. None of those stories are ever good and they are all filled with pain and heartache. Everything from underage runaways being forced to do crack so that they would become addicted and work for the pimps to murders because of very unsafe environments to hiv/std/sti horror stories where they no longer cared about anything except the next hit.

 

No one has every said to me "they wanted to work as a streetwalker" or "they liked working on the streets" all I ever hear is how horrible it is.

 

I can't help promote that, I am sorry to everyone who disagrees. They are people (same as you and I) and they deserve better - I agree 100% with that and if someone asked for help to get off the street I would voluntarily help them in a heart beat.

 

I also feel that when you pick up a streetwalker and pay her for service that you are not helping her (My opinion of course) I feel that you are in fact doing the very opposite (Again this would not be 100% of the time as exceptions do happen but not enough to justify this as helping someone as you are really only helping yourself and taking advantage of another human being's bad situation).

 

Again.. I do know some of you disagree and I can accept that.

 

 

JustJack & WrinkledIntime: walk on egg shells? All I ask is that you do not post anything "Negative" on the site. Don't fight, slander anyone, bash anyone, etc.. that really should not be too much to ask.

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

I totally agree with mod on this...especially the first paragraph...!

Emma A

 

Yes Dreamer, they are people too. I could not agree with you more. The problem is many of them are not doing this willingly (That is the BIG difference). When you pick one up are you taking advantage of her circumstance and exploiting her? No matter how you justify it if she is in a bad situation / circumstance and is not streetwalking because she wants to be than you are taking advantage of that person (another human being). Exceptions do exist (as I already stated) but most of the women on the street are not in a good place and from a brief sexual encounter do you really know?

[capitalman 3861]

I'm sorry to create bad vibes. My post deserved to be edited, and I took it one step further and removed it. Please do not black list me you beautiful ladies!

 

Somehow I enjoy a good public humiliation and flogging!? :)

[Seymour 3970]

see this thread if anything as a public service anouncement against using streetwalkers as you can get riped off.

 

Exactly. You're preaching to the choir. While there may be some interest out there in the so called street scene, most CERB members are focused on spending quality time with quality providers who genuinely want to be involved in this business and are not looking to take advantage or exploit anyone.

[Guest **st t***s @]

thanks for posting, a girl like that got me in that area the same way, there is also the girl in that area years ago, who giant frere remembers to, that did the scam in her apt building

that area around merivale kirkwood, never really has much good if anything ever to look at, so i think its more than just the few years of missing from picking up street girls, me thinks it may be the surprise of actually finding something good

i do remember that you also had the good luck of picking up that olsen twin lookalike right around there to.

if you dont trry to have a good time, you wont have one

 

so thanks for the share