drlove 37204 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 Serves him right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 20128 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 Of course we never have and never will here the other side of the story. I highly doubt the Secret Service will give out the details of the agent(s) involved. Likely the story is true, but you can't say for certain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 Another case of pay before play for the sp, as there are guys like this who will refuse to pay anything at all. And good for the hotel to have a policy of accepting the trade, with conditions lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrrnice2 157005 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 I have somewhat of a different take on the story, but that may be due to my misunderstanding of the issue. I of course have no issue with the fact that the guy was being completely ignorant by refusing to pay or trying to negotiate. What bothers me however about the story is that the people involved may lose their jobs or be severely reprimanded not for trying to cheat the worker, but rather for seeing a prostitute in the first place. These guys are American, and I do understand that the laws are different in that country, but even still, it is the idea that seeing an escort is the cause for the ruckus in the media (Canadian media as well) and the secret service. We have a LONG way to go before this whole environment becomes socially acceptable. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 20128 Report post Posted April 20, 2012 I have somewhat of a different take on the story, but that may be due to my misunderstanding of the issue. I of course have no issue with the fact that the guy was being completely ignorant by refusing to pay or trying to negotiate. What bothers me however about the story is that the people involved may lose their jobs or be severely reprimanded not for trying to cheat the worker, but rather for seeing a prostitute in the first place. These guys are American, and I do understand that the laws are different in that country, but even still, it is the idea that seeing an escort is the cause for the ruckus in the media (Canadian media as well) and the secret service. We have a LONG way to go before this whole environment becomes socially acceptable. These guys are Secret Service Agents. Their job is to protect the life of President of the United States. Although legal where they were, it is not legal in the US and like it or not prostitutes do not have a good reputation there or here for that matter. One possible scenario was a prostitute blackmailing a SS Agent for money or something else. I heard, and obviously cannot confirm, that the agents involved had the itinerary of the President in the rooms the were staying. I hear what you're saying, people should do what they want on their own time and Sex Work has to become more socially acceptable, but I do understand why what they did is such a big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted April 21, 2012 Also, on the legality of it... US law is irrelevant here. Prostitution is legal in Cartagena, so no crime was committed until the agent at the center of this refused to pay. Is this true ? Wasn't there new laws in place in the US to domestically prosecute US citizen engage in prostitution outside of US. The closes reference I can find is the PROTECT Act of 2003. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted April 21, 2012 Is this true ? Wasn't there new laws in place in the US to domestically prosecute US citizen engage in prostitution outside of US. The closes reference I can find is the PROTECT Act of 2003. Now you mention it... not sure :) I'm not an expert on the indignities that us.gov heaps upon its citizens, but this does sound like the kind of thing they'd do... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My***tLixx Report post Posted April 22, 2012 okay, that's not really the headline. But it's pretty much what happened, but the sound of it. You may or may not have seen news about the recent incident in columbia where a bunch of secret service guys were sent home after an "incident" involving local sps. Well, the lady at the center of the "incident" has now had a chance to tell her side of the story. I'm sure many of the ladies here will find this sort of thing depressingly familiar: Interestingly, nobody seems to be disputing her account. And it sounds like there have already been consequences: Anyway, all that was really just a preamble to me saying two things. Firstly, good on the colombian sp for standing up for herself. And secondly, i'm highly amused by the fact that the asshole who tried to screw her over has been fired as a result, even if it's probably more for embarrassing his employer than for being an asshole in the first place. Yes, i know schadenfreude is unattractive. So sue me. Additional comments: Addendum: Lol. It's really disgusting when a client treats an SP with that level of disrespect. They are upscale providers, usually well-educated, intelligent, and classy ladies. Columbia is also blessed with some of the most beautiful women in the world, and I couldn't imagine how low she must have felt. Shame on the secret service agent...treat these beautiful ladies like the jewels they are! I also noticed that the U.S. Government is not condemning the fact they were with escorts, but that "sensitive military secrets could have been leaked"...way to distance yourselves from scandal, boys. :censored: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites