mtntime 100 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 Morning all....Came across this article and site and thought I would share. Seems the entrapment laws are bit different in the US - however, hobbyists and SP's should be careful should canadian LE try the same game http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20081210/ARTICLES/812100264 Main site that highlights busts: http://www.swopusa.org/en/aggregator/sources/65 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick_falcon 911 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 Very interesting articles. It's one reason why I stick to the well-known local providers. They are proven and true. Canadian LE might just follow the same steps, we never know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kubrickfan 12836 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 This seems to involve escort activity in the United States that is considered illegal under the existing laws. Based on my understanding on the laws in Canada ... at least as discussed in multiple threads on Cerb and elsewhere ... that activity is not illegal in Canada, unless somehow advertising on CL would be considered solicitation? To be clear, I'm not talking about the drug activity, only the SP related activity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 that activity is not illegal in Canada, unless somehow advertising on CL would be considered solicitation? IANAL if ads in CL is solicitation then Ottawa Sun would be prime target for LE activity as well. I believe there is reasonable expectations of privacy on CL since it is on a very specific web page as oppose to the first CL page. i.e. you have to make an effort to get to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135639 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 Laws are VERY different in the US for prostitution. As long as you do not solicit the ladies in public and do not get caught in a brothel (Common bawdy house) you should be fine. In Canada the LE can set up street prostitution stings (Solicitation in public is illegal) and can bust massage spa's, stripclubs, incall locations, etc... (any common place of prostitution) - this does not include a rented hotel room if the guy pays for the room and same with a home address even if you have 100 sp's over to your house. Low traffic incall locations are a grey area (were a Independent lady is working by herself) - technically they could be considered a common bawdy house and complaints from neighbors could cause a investigation but I don't know of any low traffic incall locations that have been charged with common bawdy house charges and the police know the ladies are safer doing this than doing outcalls so chances are they just leave those ladies alone (and of course underage girls are illegal for a number of reasons so if you suspect the lady is under the age of 18 you should ask for ID to prove age and if none is supplied you should leave as you do NOT want to be tricked and busted for being with anyone under the age) Underage prostitution happens a lot at street level prostitution so sites like CL (Free sites) could be used for this as well so always protect yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Ellis 100 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 I spent the last year touring the USA, and Craig's List busts are disturbingly common. Busts of all kinds are, as a matter of fact. It's one of the reasons US escorts can come across as paranoid -- verification can be a long, drawn out process, and almost every girl requires it when booking a new client. While I was last in the Baltimore area, police conducted a sting on two girls operating a small, low volume incall. They actually ambushed clients leaving the incall, and blackmailed them into helping to set the women up. The bust took months to co ordinate, required dozen of officers, and the police force called local media to 'alert' them to it -- and provided footage of them leading out the girls, who they didn't allow to put on more than robes. Both were handcuffed, one was thrown on the floor so violently that they dislocated her shoulder. Who did the police 'save' Baltimore from? Two university students, one a single mother, neither with a record. No drugs, no pimps, no neighbour complaints, nothing but two single girls trying to graduate without working a minimum wage job. For this, the cops spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, in a region with one of the highest murder rates in the country. It's a relief to be back working at home, where prosecution is a little bit more sane. - Morgan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites