Bbfs

[Guest M*****ss****e]

I received a message one evening from a prospective client. We ended up talking on the phone, and he finally asked: would I do bbfs? I laughed and said no. He asked again, and offered an extra 200. I realized he wasn't kidding, and said no again, and added that I wasn't impressed. He once again asked, offering an extra 400 this time. I usually try to be very polite, but I kind of lost it. I said "Listen, I'm not sure who you think you're talking to, but no amount of money will cure death. Not to mention if you're asking ME, you've obviously seen others who said yes to your disgusting request. How about this? You go play a rousing game of hide and go f*** yourself!!"

 

As I was about to hang up, he asked me to wait, then said "thank god! When can I see you???"

 

Long (yes it got longer) story short, he had called a few ladies before me and they had eventually agreed. He claimed one didn't even need the extra donation, but simply said "as long as you're hot and you look clean".

 

I've also heard more than once the "I've only been with my wife for x years" blah blah blah. Usually I'm polite and say "It's only my safety at risk hun, it's yours as well" ...... but sadly yes, even members here have asked... and not responded after I declined.

 

What are people thinking??? Did they not pay attention in health class??? Google Image herpes and think twice people. It's not deadly, but also incurable..... and utterly horrifying. Not to mention the deadly ones. EEK! No thanks.

[star99 4852]

I received a message one evening from a prospective client. We ended up talking on the phone, and he finally asked: would I do bbfs? I laughed and said no. He asked again, and offered an extra 200. I realized he wasn't kidding, and said no again, and added that I wasn't impressed. He once again asked, offering an extra 400 this time. I usually try to be very polite, but I kind of lost it. I said "Listen, I'm not sure who you think you're talking to, but no amount of money will cure death. Not to mention if you're asking ME, you've obviously seen others who said yes to your disgusting request. How about this? You go play a rousing game of hide and go f*** yourself!!"

 

As I was about to hang up, he asked me to wait, then said "thank god! When can I see you???"

 

Long (yes it got longer) story short, he had called a few ladies before me and they had eventually agreed. He claimed one didn't even need the extra donation, but simply said "as long as you're hot and you look clean".

 

I've also heard more than once the "I've only been with my wife for x years" blah blah blah. Usually I'm polite and say "It's only my safety at risk hun, it's yours as well" ...... but sadly yes, even members here have asked... and not responded after I declined.

 

What are people thinking??? Did they not pay attention in health class??? Google Image herpes and think twice people. It's not deadly, but also incurable..... and utterly horrifying. Not to mention the deadly ones. EEK! No thanks.

i would never request for it, and will kindly decline if it was offered. bbbj is perfect for me, for those SP's that offer that.

[JuliasUndies 7288]

Unprotected sex is dangerous regardless of paying for it or personally. Unfortunately, despite the evidence, many still have unprotected sex..Ottawa having the highest HIV rate infections in the Country. I would love to see the day when huge ads are taken out on sides of buildings or in bus stations, in bars ect, to create more awareness. Safety Safety Safety! I'm glad so many ladies here on Cerb have the highest of standards. Let's all be safe. It's so easy to catch something, I once allowed a client to lick and suck on my nipples even..just that gave me an infection so bad my breasts were purple and black for two weeks and needed medication.

[Guest M*****ss****e]

i would never request for it, and will kindly decline if it was offered. bbbj is perfect for me, for those SP's that offer that.

 

That is just as unsafe as bbfs. Even without CIM there is still a risk. The same is true for DATY.

 

http://www.avert.org/oral-sex.htm A direct quote "The most common STD transmitted via oral sex is herpes."

 

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I didn't mean to sound judgemental by the way. I'm a "lip biter" so I don't do bbbj, but I guess I sound like a hypocrite here as I do allow daty.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Let's all be safe. It's so easy to catch something, I once allowed a client to lick and suck on my nipples even..just that gave me an infection so bad my breasts were purple and black for two weeks and needed medication.

Julia, if you don't mind me asking, I am curious to find out about the kind of infection you had that caused your breasts to turn purple and black due to kissing and sucking. Would you mind sharing?

 

I am also not sure if you are saying that it was caused by an STD or perhaps because of rough play...

[Royalfun 55449]

BBFS is a no, no, no; and it makes me run as far as I can from those who dare to offer it.

 

Fortunatly, here at CERB the ladies have enough ethics and common sense, and professionalism to stay away from that irresponsible practice.

This business is not a russian roulette game, but the fun to be with somebody that share pleasure and fun in a safe environment.

[billybob 20128]

That is just as unsafe as bbfs. Even without CIM there is still a risk. The same is true for DATY.

 

http://www.avert.org/oral-sex.htm A direct quote "The most common STD transmitted via oral sex is herpes."

 

I was hesitant to bring this up , bbbj and bbfs, mostly because I love bbbj, but I'm just wondering why so many are appalled at the idea of bbfs but there is little to no condemnation of bbbj, cim etc.

 

I realize it is a very intimate act, I also realize there are many more risks with bbfs not to mention I personally do not want to perform daty on a lady after the previous client has done his business down there.

 

All that said I appreciate that community is looking after each other with raising topics like this, but I am just a little (i'm not shocked by any stretch of the imagination) surprised at the response to this topic because there is very little conversation/concern around other "risky" behavior. I'm not saying that risky behavior it isn't discussed, but people seem very concerned about this issue.

[JuliasUndies 7288]

Julia, if you don't mind me asking, I am curious to find out about the kind of infection you had that caused your breasts to turn purple and black due to kissing and sucking. Would you mind sharing?

 

I am also not sure if you are saying that it was caused by an STD or perhaps because of rough play...

 

The doctor said it was a bacterial infection, a bad one too. No, not an std (or from rough play just a bit of sucking) but a good example of just how easy it is to contract something, I would have never guessed that I could get an infection from that. They hurt soo bad, they couldn't be touched for a week and all my veins were purple and black.

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

I was hesitant to bring this up , bbbj and bbfs, mostly because I love bbbj, but I'm just wondering why so many are appalled at the idea of bbfs but there is little to no condemnation of bbbj, cim etc. . . . . I am just a little (i'm not shocked by any stretch of the imagination) surprised at the response to this topic because there is very little conversation/concern around other "risky" behavior. I'm not saying that risky behavior it isn't discussed, but people seem very concerned about this issue.

 

There's actually been quite a bit of discussion about all kinds of activities on this site. You could use the search function to look them up.

 

Whether it's a good idea or not to give uncovered oral service is not something that all of the ladies agree about. Some of us offer it and some of us don't. The risk of infection with any activity is something that we each need to consider for ourselves.

 

I don't offer bareback anything. As I said, above, there's a syphilis epidemic in Vancouver and, as far as I'm concerned, that's a very good reason for me not to do this. I'm not worried about contracting HIV/AIDs from oral sex because the risk is negligible, at best: the HIV virus is very fragile and doesn't survive oral sex acts. I'm concerned about things like syphilis and gonorrhea because they often produce no symptoms and also because there is a strain of gonorrhea that's highly resistant to antibiotics. I'm seriously allergic to a wide range of antibiotics and so I'm very wary of coming in contact with anything that may require taking them.

 

There are quite a few wonderful companions here who do offer uncovered oral sex and have been doing so for a long time without any serious difficulties. I respect their decisions about this.

 

One good place to get information about STI risks is from the Health Nurse's website.

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

Here in Ottawa it's not as common as in Toronto.. OMG when we had ladies working in Missisauga it was at least 20 calls a day for BBFS, appearantly there was quite a few ladies offering that service.. Unreal..

[backrubman 64800]

Well there is a point yet to be made here and then I think everyone has done a great job of covering the subject. I re-read the whole thread and saw these words (small sample) "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" but it's the remark about the otherwise "safe environment" I have to comment on. CFS is not safe, it's just less riskier.

 

If you knew as a matter of "fact" that your partner had AIDS (or lets be less dramatic and say genital herpes) and you know this to be true, would you consider a condom adequate protection? I know I wouldn't.

 

As clients or SPs and consenting adults were are accepting a certain level of risk as acceptable but let there be no doubt there is still a risk.

 

Just as any SP offering BBBJ is at risk of offering CIM even if they don't plan to (by extension - surprise), any SP offering CFS is subject to it becoming BBFS by surprise.

 

Personally I have experienced two different types of malfunctions and thankfully many years ago now. One is like a balloon, poof no more condom (that matters) and the other type of failure is not as pronounced or immediately noticeable, but condoms absolutely do fail and even when they don't there is still a risk.

 

Of course it is "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" to intentionally take more risk than you must but my point is that CFS can become BBFS very suddenly and quite unexpectedly and you clearly have to consider that an acceptable risk and realize that you are taking that risk so I wouldn't call it otherwise "safe", just less risk and therefore a sensible precaution.

[Guest J****in A**l]

I get asked at least once a week if I would provide BBFS and asked every day if I would provide BBBJ. I don't provide either of those services, I have read from other postings that some of the SPs on here do provide BBBJ and that is their own choice. But surprisingly, when I refuse to offer BBFS the response from the prospective client is that other SPs do and why not me? I can't believe the nerve of some people.

[Cleo Catra 178382]

I have had three requests for this today. Well bareback anal, like its any difference. Maybe people think i'm new and gullible

[Royalfun 55449]

I have had three requests for this today. Well bareback anal, like its any difference. Maybe people think i'm new and gullible

 

 

It's incredible that some people today are risking their life and are asking others to risk their own only to fullfill a fantasy that is fully irresponsible.

 

I know that extreme sports are more popular than ever, but at least the one who practices it risks its own life. But in the case of the requests received by Cleo, those extreme guys are asking that she risks her life for their pleasure. Fortunatly, Cleo knows what she is doing, but probably some SPs newcomers could be fooled and put at risk. Hopefully not.

[backrubman 64800]

I have had three requests for this today. Well bareback anal, like its any difference. Maybe people think i'm new and gullible

 

Actually there is quite a difference. That would be way more more dangerous. No offense intended to those that might enjoy this or the ladies that openly advertise it but I'll never get it (greek).

 

That area is simply not designed for that purpose and injury is a high risk, my understanding (not from experience nor do I desire any) is that it takes the utmost care an attention to avoid injury. Even when condoms are used for this there is a much higher failure rate (or so it says on the packaging).

 

I did see some value in the 3rd world were this is used as a method of birth control in a monogamous relationship were no other method of birth control is available.

 

It certainly seems from what I have read on the subject as the absolute best way to transmit STDs available short of using an IV syringe to do the job.

[Guest]

I get asked at least once a week if I would provide BBFS and asked every day if I would provide BBBJ. I don't provide either of those services, I have read from other postings that some of the SPs on here do provide BBBJ and that is their own choice. But surprisingly, when I refuse to offer BBFS the response from the prospective client is that other SPs do and why not me? I can't believe the nerve of some people.

 

 

Some guys will say anything. They will even say that other escorts do this when they don't just to get what they want. They will find out fast when your answer still stays at a strong no.

[LuxeMulvari 65764]

I'm sorry, anyone please don't take this the wrong way, but what is the difference between providing bbbj and bbfs? I have never offered either service, i lose ALOT of business because i don't offer bbbj,never have never will,because i'm just too terrified to catch something, disease and illness, especially incurable/killer ones, scare the hell out of me. Putting a complete strangers member in my mouth without protection seems the same as having unprotected sex with someone I do not know from a hole in the wall; his fluids are entering my body which put my health at risk. HIV and other STDS are carried through the semen fluid, so if is guy is positive, how is putting it in your mouth any different from your cookie? Will the risk factor change? The way is see it, I'm too young to die, or get sick and because of this thought pattern, I have ALWAYS been a 100% safe gfe, and will never do bbbj, in my mind its the same as bbfs in terms of the risk factor. I'm just curious, why is it "ok" to do in the mouth, but not ok in other regions? I mean if your already doing bbbj,your already risking your health, how is doing bbfs any different, other than now the client is at risk too? Why is unprotected ok when the sp is taking all the risk ( bbbj) but not ok when both parties are at risk (BBFS)? Why is ANY unprotected service alright? Are the two really that different? Just curious? Please don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be rude or offend anyone,nor am i trying to judge, your body your choice. I truly just want to hear some other perspectives.

 

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I'm sorry, anyone please don't take this the wrong way, but what is the difference between providing bbbj and bbfs? I have never offered either service, i lose ALOT of business because i don't offer bbbj,never have never will,because i'm just too terrified to catch something, disease and illness, especially incurable/killer ones, scare the hell out of me. Putting a complete strangers member in my mouth without protection seems the same as having unprotected sex with someone I do not know from a hole in the wall; his fluids are entering my body which put my health at risk. HIV and other STDS are carried through the semen fluid, so if is guy is positive, how is putting it in your mouth any different from your cookie? Will the risk factor change? The way is see it, I'm too young to die, or get sick and because of this thought pattern, I have ALWAYS been a 100% safe gfe, and will never do bbbj, in my mind its the same as bbfs in terms of the risk factor. I'm just curious, why is it "ok" to do in the mouth, but not ok in other regions? I mean if your already doing bbbj,your already risking your health, how is doing bbfs any different, other than now the client is put at risk too? Why is unprotected ok when the sp is taking all the risk ( bbbj) but not ok when both parties are at risk (BBFS)? Why is ANY unprotected service alright? Are the two really that different? Just curious? Please don't anyone take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be rude or offend anyone,nor am i trying to judge, your body your choice. I truly just want to hear some other perspectives.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... what is the difference between providing bbbj and bbfs?...

 

The mouth and digestive tract is a much more hostile place to many pathogens.

[LuxeMulvari 65764]

The mouth and digestive tract is a much more hostile place to many pathogens.

 

Yes, i realize that, but from my understanding, you can catch HIV from open lines to your bloodstream. Everyone has microscopic cuts in their mouth and gums, from food, or brushing/flossing too hard. Even if the guy doesn't ejaculate, the pre cum still carries the infection. If that gets into these little cuts, which are to small to see or even feel, and he's infected, guess what? game over.

[Code Blue 3585]

The risks of BBBJ run both ways with this activity. There are cases in the medical literature of the recipients receiving a little more than they anticipated!

 

Interestingly among young women, the risk of STI is lower with anal sex than with vaginal by a factor of two. However both are more risky by three and six times respectively if BB as compared with Covered.

 

The only risk avoidance approach is abstinence :frown:: all else is risk management. The risks from safer practices are much lower. There are lots of other things we do that are way more lethal, say driving a car for example.

 

CB

[piano8950 32577]

Yes, i realize that, but from my understanding, you can catch HIV from open lines to your bloodstream. Everyone has microscopic cuts in their mouth and gums, from food, or brushing/flossing too hard. Even if the guy doesn't ejaculate, the pre cum still carries the infection. If that gets into these little cuts, which are to small to see or even feel, and he's infected, guess what? game over.

 

BBBJ is risky, I think the mentality with those who offer it without CIM is that it's relatively low risk, even if there was an 'accident' (someone could just spit the semen out). But I understand why SPs would be whole heartily against it and I have no issue with it at all.

 

There is a smaller risk, even with condoms of getting STIs and god forbid, HIV. It's something I'd rather not think about, but keeps me alert and thoughtful about the consequences of my actions.

[Hector17 9215]

Samanthas' (#34) response re BBBJ was very sensible and had info attached.

 

I dont think anyone disputes that BBFS is unwise.

 

Accepting an SPs' decision on a YMMV basis for the other services is part of the deal.

[Exotic Touch Danielle 31728]

I have never nor will I ever offer bbbj or bbfs...you could look clean but that doesnt mean anything to me or my life...looks are decieving and even still I prefer to be safe either way...its such a turn off to me when a man will ask for either of those services...but because of so many who offer bbbj and bbfs they assume I do as well...to each their own and yes you have the right to do as you please but being safe is a major turn on for me...lets be safe my fellow cerbs..xo

[Mu* G**py 100]

This ol' muthertrucker's been around a looooong time and BB anything for me isn't going to happen. I've never asked for BBBJ or BBFS. Nor do I engage in DATY. I'm with Luxe completely on this.

[Guest]

If we are going to talk about risk there is a risk with daty and digits as well. I feel like if I'm okey with someone going down on me, I should feel okey going down on them. I don't think that we all are going to pick apart each others services because what is okey to one person may not be okey to you. I think we all agree with the fact that bbfs is crazy. We are all taking a risk by doing this no matter what way you look at it.

 

We could have the choice of using dental dams or female condoms during daty but I have not hear of this to often. So unless you are not offering daty, digits, no kissing and anything else it would be safe to assume you are taking a risk.