I love 15 minute specials

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

If someone wanted to see an SP for 15 mins, how can you NOT expect them to be a clock watcher? You get what you pay for and don't expect the greatest experience that an hour or even a half hour has to offer. If someone is too cheap to pay an extra $40 but wants the extras that the $40 entails, then you have someone who wants everything for nothing and those people are very common on those other sites. Sure, 15 min appt can sound enticing especially if the clients are only there for 10 mins and not take advantage of the SPs time but what about the ones that will only pay for 15 mins and keep pushing it and won't leave?

 

I had someone wanting me to go to their house for a half hour that was very close to my incall and they said they were getting the jacuzzi fired up and were pouring some drinks. This is all supposed to happen in a half hour? I don't think so. lol. It upsets me when guys try to take advantage of my time by attempting to do this. My time is my time and I have a life that not only includes this. I put the effort into providing the experience and when someone asks if I can do better or that's too much, it's insulting. I'm running a business and providing a fantasy at the same time and often the boundaries can get skewed when someone expects more than they're paying for.

 

I find my half hour rate is affordable that is more condensed than the one hour appt but the customer is still having a great experience. If a half hour rate that is under $140 is too much then they can go find someone for a quickie with a mattress on the floor because that's what they're going to get for $60-$80. And the customer will be rushed in and booted out on their ass in 5 minutes. Don't expect a champagne experience on a cheap wine budget. To each their own but don't expect every SP to respond by asking "Can you do better than that rate?" And now it has gotten so bad now according to others ladies who have had guys say to them " I only need 5 minutes of your time, how about $50?" This isn't piece work!

 

These kinds of appts are not for every SP and I'm one of them. I've humbled myself by offering half hours when in the past I would only do a minimum of one hour encounters. Having said that, I felt it was a smart decision because that is where the market is at right now because the business has changed over the years. However now the escort experience is being taken to an all time low with offers of $60-80. Why not just stand on the street? Obviously not but those are street rate prices for an SP's time. I have also found that half hour appts are still good for those who have time constraints and I still quote a fair price for myself given the experience I offer and what the customer will receive. I also have very nice clients who only want a half hour and I really enjoy it. 15 mins appt is pushing it for me and it also adds traffic to an SP's incall location.

 

Think about it.. it takes an SP the same amount of time to set up her location and get ready and she's going to make just above half of what she would make in a half hour session? And on top of that, the SP has to pay for that incall location. Many don't work out of their own home for various reasons. No one thinks of this.. only the fact that we apparently charge too much and aren't "worth it". It takes a lot of money, time and effort to succeed in this business by doing it the right way. Not by the Sp telling someone to make them an offer or vice versa. I'm sure many men out there can appreciate what we do and how we do it and there are others that don't give a flying fig but they want the best of everything for nothing.

 

The rates in Ottawa are so varied right now that the SPs who are willing to make deals are setting the example and this sets the tone for the entire market. In any business, if you lower your price, you are also lowering your standards and expectations. I have certain standards and expectations and I won't let anyone tell me otherwise or how to run my business by telling me my rates are too high. I have a long list of regulars and that is proof right there.

[Athos 108589]

I agree that there is a place for 30 minute appointments, and I could potentially see myself booking one if I had extreme time constraints and it was with a regular. Having said that, I'd probably prefer to wait until I had sufficient time to book a longer session.

 

I don't want to offend anyone, and everyone should organize their business the way they see fit, but when I see 15 minute specials advertized, my inclination is to simply put that person on my "not interested" list. I've reached a stage in my life where there simply isn't anything interesting to me in that sort of service. And to the extent that services provided may offer some indication of the nature of the provider, I'm doubly not interested.

 

I don't mean to come off like a snob, but when I see a lady I want a certain type of experience. That's not to say 30 minutes of intense passion couldn't be fun, but I need to know the lady also can provide me with the sort of experience I'm looking for in a 2 hour session.

 

In many ways, I think the pressure to offer shorter time frames reflects the economy. There are more girls at the lower end of the business coming in and looking to make some quick money. At the same time, hobbyists are feeling the sqeeze, so maybe looking to economize by going to "budget" providers or shorter appointments. For myself, I'd rather hobby less, rather than compromise on the experience.

 

Porthos

[JoyfulC 132299]

I don't want to offend anyone, and everyone should organize their business the way they see fit, but when I see 15 minute specials advertized, my inclination is to simply put that person on my "not interested" list. I've reached a stage in my life where there simply isn't anything interesting to me in that sort of service. And to the extent that services provided may offer some indication of the nature of the provider, I'm doubly not interested.

 

I don't mean to come off like a snob, but when I see a lady I want a certain type of experience. That's not to say 30 minutes of intense passion couldn't be fun, but I need to know the lady also can provide me with the sort of experience I'm looking for in a 2 hour session.

 

In many ways, I think the pressure to offer shorter time frames reflects the economy.

 

So how would the fact that an SP offers half hour or even 15-minute sessions affect your belief that she wouldn't offer the type of experience you're looking for, given the chance? You admit that there's pressure to offer such sessions because of the economy.

 

I think that, out of practicality, what an SP might offer in a shorter session is going to differ greatly from what she might be able to offer in a lengthier session. Should it be held against her that she does what she has to to survive in a tough economy? Maybe. But in that case, yes, I do think those holding it against her are somewhat snobby. Especially if she's otherwise appealing and has excellent recommendations. All of us need to get across town sometimes, but some of us just won't settle for getting across in anything less than a Porsche. Which is fine. But also snobby. Let's not mince words!

[backrubman 64800]

So how would the fact that an SP offers half hour or even 15-minute sessions affect your belief that she wouldn't offer the type of experience you're looking for, given the chance?

 

15 minute sessions have to be all about sexual gratification, a naked assumption on my part (I agree) as I like porthos would never go there. So it can leave us with the false impression that the lady is all about offering sexual gratification and this is not what some gentlemen are looking for.

 

I say false impression because you are absolutely right Christine, she may be the most wonderful companion for a 4 or 5 hour appointment which could even include sexual gratification but I have to agree with porthos that it doesn't give us that impression.

 

Another aspect of it (even if I was a fan of 15 minute appointments or had even tried one) we do well recognize the lady has to dedicate probably more time than that to being ready for our visit. As a gentleman I don't want to even ask that of a lady.

 

He's no snob and neither am I. And I know for a fact that you are a Porsche :)

[Athos 108589]

So how would the fact that an SP offers half hour or even 15-minute sessions affect your belief that she wouldn't offer the type of experience you're looking for, given the chance? You admit that there's pressure to offer such sessions because of the economy.

 

I think that, out of practicality, what an SP might offer in a shorter session is going to differ greatly from what she might be able to offer in a lengthier session. Should it be held against her that she does what she has to to survive in a tough economy? Maybe. But in that case, yes, I do think those holding it against her are somewhat snobby. Especially if she's otherwise appealing and has excellent recommendations. All of us need to get across town sometimes, but some of us just won't settle for getting across in anything less than a Porsche. Which is fine. But also snobby. Let's not mince words!

 

Well, I did say it wasn't my intention to offend. And I did acknowledge I might come across as snobby. I think those who know me will acknowledge that I'm anything but.

 

However, to answer your question i'm looking for escape, fantasy, intimacy and sex. I'm not looking to get off as quickly as I can, or as many times as I can. I don't think I can get what I'm looking for in a half hour, I certainly can't in 15 minutes. So why would I even go there. I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't offer those services. Nor am I necessarily saying I wouldn't book a longer session with someone who does. But it does suggest to me I'm less likely to get the sort of experience i'm hoping for. Perhaps I'm wrong about that.

 

When I see ads for 15 minute specials I'm simply not interested. If others are, that's fine. No judgement from me. That's their right, and it's mine to say it's not what I'm looking for.

[JoyfulC 132299]

I'm not making a value judgment on snobbery. Almost all of us are snobby, one way or the other. Me? I'm a major food snob. If it's not homemade, get it away from me!

 

A friend once asked me what the difference is between a $200-300 escort and a $3500 one, such as the one Elliot Spitzer was seeing. I told him that a $200-300 escort will see a $3500 customer, but the $3500 escort won't see a $200-$300 customer. It's not so much about the calibre of the escort, but the calibre of her clientele.

 

So I can see where you might not be interested in the services of an SP who offers 15 minute sessions. It's completely understandable. But it is actually a form of (completely inoffensive) snobbery.

 

(@BackRubMan, I would view myself as more of a '68 VW Beetle with a peace sign painted on the bonnet. ;) )

[aimtoplease1 1839]

You shouldn't be charged to take a shower...you're doing it for the lady. I feel it's only out of respect that you shower first & should not be taken out of your time.

[JoyfulC 132299]

You shouldn't be charged to take a shower...you're doing it for the lady. I feel it's only out of respect that you shower first & should not be taken out of your time.

 

So we should be charged for your shower? Provide shower facilities and launder towels for you for free? Most guys shower before they arrive. But if some want to shower after arriving or before leaving, they should expect it to come out of their time.

 

Again, regulars probably get a lot more leeway on something like this, but to view it as an entitlement is offputting.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

If I require a shower, it's on the clock. If the provider requires me to take a solo shower before we start the fun, even if I don't need it, I feel it should be off the clock. But when all is said and done, taking a solo shower while a lovely lady is waiting for you at the other end ... takes very little time at all, I'm not dawdling. So the answer of whose time it's on is really more of a theoretical than a practical issue - for me, since I only do longer appointments. But I can see that in the context of a 15-minute appointment, the issue of whose time it's on would loom rather larger.

[aimtoplease1 1839]

To the ladies that feel more comfortable talking to a client for a 15 mins., that's fine, but it shouldn't be taken out of the clients time...sorry but we're not paying you to talk.

[futileresistenz 28253]

This is what I like to do to get into the "mood" :) and my mood usually includes some nice conversation, a bit of flirting and some sensuous times :) This can't be accomplished in 15mins and, not to seem harsh, but it's not worth the time I take to prepare

 

I don't really get the 15/30 minute option, but that's just me. Like you said, it takes time to get acquainted, flirty, and warmed up. ;). I don't think, for the most part, that ladies would want to be treated as a quick way to gratification, and then for the client to disappear. Not how I roll. Plus with all the additional hassles mentioned that often come with it, I can see how only some providers offer it.

 

The only time I might consider a shorter appointment is with someone I've had many longer sessions with, who offers it and is comfortable with that. But even then, it seems like a lot of rushing! ... could be a good thing, I guess... ;)

[backrubman 64800]

So we should be charged for your shower? Provide shower facilities and launder towels for you for free? Most guys shower before they arrive. But if some want to shower after arriving or before leaving, they should expect it to come out of their time.

Again, regulars probably get a lot more leeway on something like this, but to view it as an entitlement is offputting.

 

Yeah, even in a hotel environment you are using the ladies precious towels that she may not have enough of and definitely taking up her time. But in-call, yeah, she's doing the laundry, paying for the hot water and probably cleaning the shower afterwards although I often at least offer to help with cleaning the shower :) and I mean it.

 

Shower should always be on the clock, except perhaps for a regular.

 

And as for taking a shower for the ladies benefit and not yours? Ek! No way. I just can't be comfortable being any less than freshly showered. So if I shower and drive right over there and then spend an hour talking, yeah, time for another shower (at the very least a quick one) to freshen up.

[Guest]

You shouldn't be charged to take a shower...you're doing it for the lady. I feel it's only out of respect that you shower first & should not be taken out of your time.

 

I happen to disagree with you. I take showers with the clients when they come to visit me. I look at it as part of the fun and most of my clients do too. It gives me an excuse to rub all over you, make sure your clean and in my opinion it is part of the experience. Kind of like foreplay.

 

To the ladies that feel more comfortable talking to a client for a 15 mins., that's fine, but it shouldn't be taken out of the clients time...sorry but we're not paying you to talk.

 

Sorry to say this but I would rather not see a client if he thinks this way. Most of my clients enjoy a good conversation and think of it as part of a whole experience. Remember we are being paid for our time, not what we do in that hour(s). Most gentlemen enjoy a good companion.

[aimtoplease1 1839]

I happen to disagree with you. I take showers with the clients when they come to visit me. I look at it as part of the fun and most of my clients do too. It gives me an excuse to rub all over you, make sure your clean and in my opinion it is part of the experience. Kind of like foreplay.

 

 

 

Sorry to say this but I would rather not see a client if he thinks this way. Most of my clients enjoy a good conversation and think of it as part of a whole experience. Remember we are being paid for our time, not what we do in that hour(s). Most gentlemen enjoy a good companion.

I do agree with Peachy, that if the client needs a shower because he's coming from a day at work (like myself most times) it's nice when the SP offers to join you in the shower and yes it should be on the clock. I've experience all three, solo on the clock, solo off the clock & together on the clock. I don't think I have to tell you where I spend my money.

 

Additional Comments:

I happen to disagree with you. I take showers with the clients when they come to visit me. I look at it as part of the fun and most of my clients do too. It gives me an excuse to rub all over you, make sure your clean and in my opinion it is part of the experience. Kind of like foreplay.

 

 

 

Sorry to say this but I would rather not see a client if he thinks this way. Most of my clients enjoy a good conversation and think of it as part of a whole experience. Remember we are being paid for our time, not what we do in that hour(s). Most gentlemen enjoy a good companion.

Peachy...I forgot to mention...you're a beautiful lady!

[Guest]

I happen to disagree with you. I take showers with the clients when they come to visit me. I look at it as part of the fun and most of my clients do too. It gives me an excuse to rub all over you, make sure your clean and in my opinion it is part of the experience. Kind of like foreplay.

 

 

 

Sorry to say this but I would rather not see a client if he thinks this way. Most of my clients enjoy a good conversation and think of it as part of a whole experience. Remember we are being paid for our time, not what we do in that hour(s). Most gentlemen enjoy a good companion.

 

I hope this statement is not looked at as advertising as I was just trying to share my opinion. If it is I was not meaning it to be taken in that way.

[Athos 108589]

Showering is always on the clock in my view. In my experience it usually pays off 10 fold in terms of the experience you receive. And if the lady wants to join me all the better.

 

Porthos

[aimtoplease1 1839]

Not at all! I don't have the luxury of going home first them going out again or going for more than a half hour, so it is greatly appreciated when a SP offers to join me in the shower & we also get to talk a bit. I did not mean to upset anyone!

[renegade 11027]

for us shy guys -it takes me 15 minutes to get my pants off let alone get to know someone !!! chuckle chuckle !

[rep_pot 661]

I started this thread and have read some very interesting comments. If I needed a shower I would never go see any lady here without one first. That would be disrepectful. I also would never negotiate with any lady here and have added money to the fees when it was extra special to me.

The 15 minute thing does 2 things for me. 1. it is that fantasy streak out of work, get relaxed and streak back in, trying not to get caught. I find that hot as hell. 2. It allows me to meet a new person and get a quick reference for me and them. Can I connect with this person later and for a longer period, etc.

As far as taking a long time, the fantasy has me going before I arrive and it takes 5 minutes for me to complete. I am not long winded so to speak. A woman with any skill could have me off in 30 seconds. I find the whole time, I am trying to control the urge to release.

[futileresistenz 28253]

Mmmm... sharing a shower together ... one of the best forms of foreplay. ;)

 

To get on point...

 

I agree with Porthos, it would seem petty to argue that those few minutes be off the clock. Showering should be on, regardless if solo or not. I haven't had the need to think about the case of 15 minute appointments, and will leave that for others to work out. :)

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

If someone doesn't want to pay for the experience then they are not going to get the ammenities as those who would pay for a half hour or more. It's like going to a 2 star hotel and wanting 5 star treatment. I think most guys who want 15 appts just want to get in and out and probably view the appt more as "an act" or a quick release of some sort and not really an experience. I'm sure they find a way to be hygenic before they visit the SP.

[Phaedrus 209521]

To the ladies that feel more comfortable talking to a client for a 15 mins., that's fine, but it shouldn't be taken out of the clients time...sorry but we're not paying you to talk.

 

Er... no, sorry. You're paying for the time, no matter happens during that time. And if a SP's policy is that she'd like to chat for a few minutes to break the ice before getting naked, or if she'd like you to take two minutes to have a shower before she puts your nether regions in her mouth, then our choice is simple: either go with that or see someone else. Anyone who really cares about this stuff can easily ask the SP before booking.

 

In the context of this thread: I wouldn't expect this from someone who offered 15/30 minute appointments as short meetings just don't leave time for much beyond getting in, getting off and getting out, even without conversation and showers. However, as a general point, there do seem to be quite a lot of us guys who actually enjoy talking to the ladies we meet and getting to know them somewhat, and consider that to be good use of the time we're paying for.

[TheRiddlerMan 872]

To the ladies that feel more comfortable talking to a client for a 15 mins., that's fine, but it shouldn't be taken out of the clients time...sorry but we're not paying you to talk.

 

That's a depressing attitude. I think a lot of people here are paying for the experience, which hopefully includes getting to know the other person a little bit. I find that without a personal connection the "non-talking" part is very empty.

[roamingguy 300292]

To the ladies that feel more comfortable talking to a client for a 15 mins., that's fine, but it shouldn't be taken out of the clients time...sorry but we're not paying you to talk.

 

The ladies are being paid for their time and companionship. I personally find that to enjoy an encounter it begins with conversation over drinks. This approach, "we're not paying you to talk" strikes me as a somewhat demeaning attitude towards the ladies, that they are nothing more than sex providers. It also reinforces the stereotype that seeing escorts is only about anonymous sexual encounters. Well to this guy the ladies are much more than just sex providers...they are paid professional companions.

And a general comment about showers, you should always arrive freshly cleaned/showered/fresh breath right before an encounter. That is the client's responsibility. It's not the lady's responsibility to offer times and facilities to let you do so. You want a 15 minute encounter, arrive freshly clean, or if she allows you, shower at her place, on the clock Remember, you didn't arrive ready for the encounter, why should she make time for you to get ready. If she does provide shower facilities, remember her laundry costs and costs for soap, and make sure you give her a tip too. Keep in mind there is one rule ladies have called YMMV. So if you aren't properly cleaned, she is full within her rights to limit or provide no services at all.

With all this discussion, I can see why I like encounters of at least two hours or more

My morning rambling

RG

[Leber 1328]

If someone doesn't want to pay for the experience then they are not going to get the ammenities as those who would pay for a half hour or more. It's like going to a 2 star hotel and wanting 5 star treatment. I think most guys who want 15 appts just want to get in and out and probably view the appt more as "an act" or a quick release of some sort and not really an experience. I'm sure they find a way to be hygenic before they visit the SP.

 

I don't think all these guys are wanting to save a few dollars. Some of us sometimes may just have a 15-minute play time. Let me give you this scenario. If a lady, whom they've been wanting to visit but never given the chance, is in the proximity where they were in, they would book for 15 minutes. If it went past the time, they should tip to compensate the OT. Still, it should be an experience but not just a quick release.