rec board for Sp's to reccommend clients.

[Seymour 3970]

This is already available, I have seen several SP's who have "researched me" through my postings, those that post are easy to get to know, those that don't, don't for a reason. I have had other SP's who did not want to see me because I have seen to many ladies, so the review thing will sabotage guys that like to play "your the only SP I see game" One persons trash is anothers treasure I am sure I am not every SP's ideal client and I know that just as with us there is not accounting for personal taste the same applies to the ladies. And then how do the SP's know who to review and who not to review? I think the only thing of interest to the ladies is the bad date list and this is in the SP only section if I am not mistaken. This proposed section simply will not work, what do you want 1000+ recomendations of us?? who will read it??

 

I agree with your post Dummpy and that of Loneskater. There is another scenario to consider. A newbie of sound mind and body joins the forum, but cannot make a date because of lack of 'board reputation'? That will just encourage the person to move along and take their business elsewhere.

 

I believe the very fabric of this endeavor is such that if clients are bad or receive bad service then word will get around. Having a board to review dates, aside from the obvious ego boost to the persons being reviewed, will not benefit the ladies and their business. It just makes bad business sense.

 

In as much as a lot of us 'play the field' the ladies too (I believe from some of the posts here) also like to mix it up. Chances are after a few weekly dates (not playing the field) we would all become jaded, bored and frustrated.

 

Ironic - most of us got into this activity to escape frustration and mundane.

[PistolPete 61421]

Kinda makes you wonder, three pages of threads on this subject, not 1 SP added a insight/thoughts on the subject, needless to say the gentlemen seem to either be recommended or not recommended...by whom??? oh yeah...the ladies..that have yet to pipe in..so is it already telling you something?

 

Sorry if it came across harsh..but you know what? this is not going to fly.

 

BTW- Seymour- yes I play the field all the time so "life (hobbying) is like a box of chocolates"

[Guest i***k***]

I'd have to agree... I don't think this is a viable option and I've very surprised so many members voted yes to this...

[Loki318 1631]

In as much as there have been virtually no replys to this thread by the Lady's if the option were available to them would any of them actually take the time to do it ?

 

It dosent look like something that any of them eagerly embracing or even mildly looking forward to :)

 

Loki318

[brandi 231]

Shall I be the first sp to comment?

 

I didn?t read this entire thread just skimmed through it and everyone has good points. Just to let you know there are several boards for sp?s only in which we can verify men and also make comments on them which is for safety only, not to give details about his performance. The things that are usually noted are ?shows up on time as scheduled? and other important info that is necessary for this business. These sites are mostly in the USA but many Canadians also use them. I use them because I do occasionally work in the USA when I travel and I have many American clients who come up here. P411 is a good example here is a link http://www.preferred411.com. A clients first and last name, his phone number and occupation are listed. This way you don?t get any problems and if a guy is a problem everyone knows about it and he is stopped quickly before he can hurt anyone else, it also helps with no shows cause then if he screws up others will be hesitant to book him and if he doesn?t want to lose his good name then he will treat you with respect. this is more so needed in the USA because of the danger as escorting is more under ground there hence it being illegal. Since you can walk into a massage parlor here it isn?t needed so much. Men in the USA know to book escorts they need to give their info and they don?t have a problem with this. Anyways this was just to inform you that there are some systems set up incase you weren?t aware. I hope that made sense as I have a sinus headache.

 

I wrote a review here once I think it may be in the fat bastard comedy section. :) Haven?t heard much from them lately maybe their agency folded.

[YoungStud 468]

I wrote a review here once I think it may be in the fat bastard comedy section. :) Haven?t heard much from them lately maybe their agency folded.

 

Actually, Brandi, based on your review, those guys have moved to Los Vegas, are charging more than $500.00 an hour and are more popular than Wayne Newton. LOL

[JustJack 4689]

Personally I don't want to be reviewed. Just personal preference.

 

IMO, to me, the value of members here writing SP reviews is that it assists other members greatly in choosing an SP, but also for me a benefit is that it helps me feel much more comfortable the first time I see someone. On the other hand, IMO, for SP's, they don't go through a detailed analysis to decide whether or not to accept an offer of a meeting. Nor do they have to "choose" which of us to see.

 

I think its great they have a bad date section thou.

[Michelangelo 738]

OK,

I have some input on this. I provide service of a different kind and my clients share( by word of mouth) how good my service is. This is how I get more business. I would never share with them personally or publically how their receipt of my service was, it would be terrible for business. I do however share with other providers of the same service if I have a non-paying client and over demanding client etc...

 

Futhermore, An Actor doesn't review how well a movie goer watched his movie, a chef doesn't review his diners etc....Sps/MAs provide a service and we hobbiests review/recommend this service. Imagine your mechanic telling other car owners how well or poorly you maintain your car, a dentist your teeth or even a doctor your health...

 

Every so often when reviewed/recommended an SP/MA will comment and its a nice feeling to get feedback, but I think a form dedicated would be unwise for Mod, Hobbiest and SP/MA alike.

 

Just my very humble opinion.

[brandi 231]

Personally I don't want to be reviewed. Just personal preference.

 

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So you don?t want me to tell anyone how sexy you are? (Winks and grins mischievously) lol :)

 

in case you didn't know I am kidding....but not about the sexy part.

[Kyra.Graves 23779]

Shall I be the first sp to comment?

 

I didn?t read this entire thread just skimmed through it and everyone has good points. Just to let you know there are several boards for sp?s only in which we can verify men and also make comments on them which is for safety only, not to give details about his performance.

 

I think the guys would be surprised how much information is available on the web about them I was going to post the information about the sex workers conference in Toronto (on a different board today) when I remembered the spoc bad date list...

 

http://www.spoc.ca/bd08.html

 

That's just the '08 ones that have been reported, since one needs to remember that 85% of sex workers are inside workers and that most of those bad dates are outside workers one has to wonder how many went unreported again. In addition the vast majority of them are Toronto based, I'd guess it's not because Toronto has a higher % of crime against sex workers but rather that the special victims unit is supportive of the girls when reporting a crime. I myself have had to contact them in the past and they were excellent, I am surprised more girls in the city do not report issues with bad dates.

Anyway that's a topic for another thread. ;)

[E.D. man 691]

What i wanted to happen, is going on in the sexy costume thread. Where the ladies are describing and reviewing their dates with people.

This is what I was trying to do.

Funny thing bring out sexy costumes and the ladies are doing exactly what I was trying to get over.:-D:-D

[Emma Alexandra 123367]

What i wanted to happen, is going on in the sexy costume thread. Where the ladies are describing and reviewing their dates with people.

This is what I was trying to do.

Funny thing bring out sexy costumes and the ladies are doing exactly what I was trying to get over.:-D:-D

 

yes thats more fun....telling the tales of sexual adventure...

kisses,

Emma A

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

IMO, for SP's, they don't go through a detailed analysis to decide whether or not to accept an offer of a meeting. Nor do they have to "choose" which of us to see.

 

Actually, I DO analyze potential clients pretty closely and I turn a lot of them down. My criteria may not be the same as any other girl's, and when it comes to seeing the client, mileage is likely to vary a lot, too.

 

I tend to make my decisions based on my intuition and my gut reactions. I wouldn't be likely to consult a review list, though I do check out bad date lists sometimes.

 

Some of the men I've entertained said that they'd never seen a provider before, but our time together was lovely for both of us, judging by how I felt, what they said, and whether they asked to see me again. I'd hate to see a man have a hard time finding a SP just because he hadn't been reviewed.

[Suzirider 737]

Another newbie here, and more to the point, have never seen an SP before, ever !, until recently. I could not be on any list, let alone a " bad date list". I had to pass her "test", which convinced Me, that I, was going down the right road. She still took a risk (Bless Her) that I was not some smooth BS artist. She seemed pleased when I mentioned that I started a login at CERB. I am also a Oneatatimer. So the next one, if there is one, may/maynot take a chance on me. I wont be posting much on this site till I've done a lot more reading (cant type fast either).

 

I am suggesting an additional way for the ladies to check out clients. How about a CERB Approved badge, for those of us that dont have tons of rep or posts (yah something like boy scouts) achieved by passing a test (defined by the ladies ?) to prove that clients/members have, at least, read certain pages on this site. (know the rules get badge, not play by rules lose it, you must rewrite)

A lot of work ? Nonsense? Been tried before ?

 

Mod, this site is outanding ! Hope I can fit in.

My first post, be gentle please, I'm all ears.

Gonna press the Submit button and see what happens.

[YoungStud 468]

Well, interesting idea, but not one that will fly, I think. Not really relevant to the average SP.

 

Most SPs are happy to accept new clients who don't come across as totally weird or wired upon initial contact. SPs have a pretty good "spidy sense" for assholes, jerks and psycho-killers. If you are in fact normal when you first meet your next SP, things should be fine. In any case, a number have "protection" waiting to deal with "bad dates" as they occur if they occur. But just be yourself and you should fine.

 

You sound like a shy guy, not an asshole or weirdo. SPs are used to dealing with shy guys. So just call her (your next SP date) up and have fun.

 

Another newbie here, and more to the point, have never seen an SP before, ever !, until recently. I could not be on any list, let alone a " bad date list". I had to pass her "test", which convinced Me, that I, was going down the right road. She still took a risk (Bless Her) that I was not some smooth BS artist. She seemed pleased when I mentioned that I started a login at CERB. I am also a Oneatatimer. So the next one, if there is one, may/maynot take a chance on me. I wont be posting much on this site till I've done a lot more reading (cant type fast either).

 

I am suggesting an additional way for the ladies to check out clients. How about a CERB Approved badge, for those of us that dont have tons of rep or posts (yah something like boy scouts) achieved by passing a test (defined by the ladies ?) to prove that clients/members have, at least, read certain pages on this site. (know the rules get badge, not play by rules lose it, you must rewrite)

A lot of work ? Nonsense? Been tried before ?

 

Mod, this site is outanding ! Hope I can fit in.

My first post, be gentle please, I'm all ears.

Gonna press the Submit button and see what happens.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

A recommendation/referral program is not the same as a 'review'. No-one thinks reviewing clients is either necessary nor will anyone likely want that!!!

BUT a cerb approved badge or what the erotic review in the US calls a 'while list' might be good for the guys who use references within this system. It's a quick way to verify a client as legit and put the prospective new escort of his choosing at ease. If a guy wishes to be more easily accepted for an appt.. all he has to do is show his email.. linked to his handle and then she can check another reputable escort has white-listed him... simply meaning he's not black-listed :) not necessarily details about the guy.. just that he's safe/respectful and hygenic :roll:

[YoungStud 468]

Basically, would any SP give a bad recommendation to a client, other than the ones that are already on the "bad date" lists already available to SPs?

 

Even if you were boring, dumb and had extreme ED, as long as you paid and weren't abusive or had extreme hygiene problems, you would receive a good recommendation. This business is all about repeat business after all, even with losers, as long as they can pay, aren't real jerks and don't smell too bad.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Basically, would any SP give a bad recommendation to a client, other than the ones that are already on the "bad date" lists already available to SPs?

 

Even if you were boring, dumb and had extreme ED, as long as you paid and weren't abusive or had extreme hygiene problems, you would receive a good recommendation. This business is all about repeat business after all, even with losers, as long as they can pay, aren't real jerks and don't smell too bad.

 

Sort of.. but at this point there is no 'white list'.. so no recommendation either good or bad exists. I think a good recommendation list 'white list' might be something some people would like.. but since in Canada we don't rely on referrals from one escort to another as much as they do in the US.. perhaps it's completely moot. I have given referrals to other escorts who require them but not often. It's a time saver if the person is white-listed somewhere. Preferred411 was mentioned by Brandi I think earlier.. but not utilized much in Canada as far as I know.

[Suzirider 737]

Thanks for the feedback guys, E.D.man, YoungStud...still learning how to navigate a board like this...I am a RTFM type. Interesting characters on this board, (serious comedians) haven't laughed so much, so hard, for a long time.

Getting a sense of where this board is at, much more than just escort review (wine, women and song ?... sex, no drugs, rockin roll ? and serious Escourt related issues ?) Am I far off ?

Found a Tech corner..looking for a newby corner...took awhile to stumble across the escort primer (Perkel)...wouln't mind if someone gave me credit for reading that (like every newbie should !).

Another thing a newbie (like myself, who is looking for more than just getting laid) should know, is there any topics that are considered N/A to this board (OOB). Is, follow Valued Member examples, good advice to self ? Hurts when I swallow my own toes, however, little lady toes, mmmm good.

 

Any suggestions of threads to follow are welcome. :mrgreen:

[Guest C*****tte]

I will throw in my 2 cents.

 

I have no desire to review client performance. Every meeting is unique. Every person is unique. It would be bad for business and it just isn't my style. I do not think most companions would want to write such reviews. Hence our silence on this matter.

 

Exception: not an issue on this board but on others some guys try to come off as these sex super heroes and are hyper critical of the ladies they are with in terms of appearance and skills. Well, they rarely are sex studs and I think when companions read of their exploits and their harsh words we wish the truth was known and we wish these guys could have a real hard look in the mirror (both physically and into their souls).

 

As for a referral system - I use what ever is available to me but it would be amazing if there was centralized system in place for Canadians or if Canadian clients would use what is already in place elsewhere.

 

Until that happens I do the best I can - I check that new clients are not on blacklists and I ask for a personal reference from a legitimate indie.

 

If the potential client actually reads my site text, my faq and provides me with the information I have requested for bookings I am most pleased. I am open to appointments with new clients and those I might not normally take (ie airport gig at 10pm - I am not a night person) if the potential client shows from the first moment of contact that he takes my security seriously.

 

I am not asking for info for frivilous reasons. At the very least it is to prevent no-shows and at worst to diminish the chance of violence, rape and death.

[mod 135639]

Just so everyone knows: It is illegal for a SP to refer a client to another SP in Canada. Section 212 of the criminal code of Canada makes it illegal for this to occur. Now some of the ladies do give references to help protect themselves and others (gray area - and hopefully the law continues to look the other way as this does help keep the ladies safer).

 

A website that specifically allowes SP's to refer clients to other SP's in Canada would in fact be pushing the law limits so I doubt anyone will actually do this in Canada. (well anyone who is smart enough to read the law on this subject that is). The website would not be illegal and the owner of the website would not be breaking the law but anyone using the site would be.

 

This discussion was recently discussed in private with the ladies but since this thread exists I am taking the oppertunity to let everyone know why this does not already exist.

[Guest C*****tte]

Just to let people know how most references are provided...

 

Client contacts Companion A saying he wishes to see her. Companion A tells client that he needs to provide a reference. Client says he has seen Companion B and that she can vouch for him (and gives Companion A Companion B's contact info - ideally he will have given B a heads up that he is using her as a reference). Companion A contacts Companion B asking about the client. Companion B vouches or does not couch for the client.

 

This is not a referral but a reference check. If B was seeking out A and saying take this client that is a referral.

 

Is this reference check against the criminal code? How could it be deemed a referral?

 

Colour me a little confused.

[mod 135639]

I would agree with you. This (in my books) would be a reference check and not a referral. A referral I think would need to be unsolicited (Meaning you did not specifically ask about a certain person).

 

...but than again (and I say this a lot) I am not a lawyer.

 

If you made a board (or even a feature here) that would allow the ladies to recommend the guys (Review them) it would be considered a referral.

[brandi 231]

I would agree with you. This (in my books) would be a reference check and not a referral. A referral I think would need to be unsolicited (Meaning you did not specifically ask about a certain person).

 

...but than again (and I say this a lot) I am not a lawyer.

 

If you made a board (or even a feature here) that would allow the ladies to recommend the guys (Review them) it would be considered a referral.

 

how about the word verify?

[mod 135639]

I think that would be less obvious but... I don't think it is really what words you use to describe it rather what it is intended to be used for.

 

If it was set up as just a verification system (No other info just a verification that the other lady had visited with a guy it would probably be ok (I would want to run that by a lawyer first if I was personally making a website for that however just to be sure).

 

If you have the ability to browse comments, ratings, details, etc... that other ladies make about the guys you would be in hot water as it would virtually be a referral system. (again, I am sure you could find a way around this - speak to a lawyer)