Feedback/advice plz

[Bern 341]

Taking a buddy out Friday for his bachelor party. Looking for a place where the ladies are not too agressive. I dislike being asked if I want a dance every 5mins. I understand and respect that this is their job (I get that). But IMO if I want a dance I will ask the nice lady.

 

I was once told if you sat at the stage, the ladies would leave you alone. Is this true?

 

Also: any recomendation as to where to go? Pink in Alymer is the front runner right now.

 

Thank you CERB

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Wow since 2009 and your first post!!!!.

 

Unfortunately wherever you go, you will be asked.... Yes sitting next to stage would help but doesn't 100% insulate you as they will come and ask but in smaller number. Just thank them for asking and tell them politely that you are not taking any dances. I know it is hard but what can I say. Not sure why you pick pink but my reco goes with Barbs (if you wish to watch as they have best looking dancers) as the front runner though low mileage in CR (it is open CR) and Pigale also having great looking dancers and higher CR mileage. Some say Barefax is good too. Avoid NuDen but if you go there, take a telescope with you to watch the stage lol and the CRs are completely open.

[billybob 20128]

If you don't want to be asked for a dance then don't go. Not trying to be rude, but that is how the ladies make their money so of course they are going to try and get some customers.

 

If you go to a furniture store a sales person is going to approach you and ask you if you need help, they work on commission so of course they are going to try and drum up some business.

 

I have sat at the stage and have had ladies come over to me and ask me if I want a dance. Honestly I would rather they don't approach me but I expect it and I respectfully decline if it is a lady I am not interested in.

 

From what I know, and it is very little, the ladies are paid little for their stage dances, they make their money from private dances so expect to be asked.

[Ftn40 824]

I find that when you are with friends it's easier not to be approached since it's understandable that you wish to spend time with them.

 

Sitting at the stage also reduces some of the approaches that you might get sitting at a table.

 

That being said, you are always approached in clubs, however, I find the women at Barb's to be pretty good about it.

 

I had a disappointing time in Niagara Falls, being asked every 5 minutes. I was even told I was being rude for not going for a dance with someone. First time that ever happened.

 

When I finally got back to Barb's, I was sitting at the stage and I was asked if I wanted a dance, but seeing that I was still watching the lady on stage she added, "Or are you just enjoying the entertainment right now?" I smiled and admitted that I just wanted to watch for now.

 

I find it that way at Barb's, very pleasant, very understanding, very relaxed.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

 

From what I know, and it is very little, the ladies are paid little for their stage dances, they make their money from private dances so expect to be asked.

 

I don't think they are paid anything for their stage dances. In fact they have to pay hefty fees to be allowed to work there (DJ fee, bar fee....). If they don't make money in the CR, then they are worse off after hours of work. That is why sometimes it is really hard to decline. even politely. My suggestion, take them for one dance if you are not very interested (and let them know beforehand that you want only one dance otherwise they may be offended) and save the 3 to 5 dances for those who you are really interested.

[Alger 1898]

One trick that I sometimes use while waiting for a specific lady is to buy a glass of wine or a cheap drink and let it sit beside you. Most get the hint that you are waiting for someone to return.

 

 

-Alg

[Bern 341]

Thank you all for your feedback! Yes I realize sooner or later I will be asked. That's fine, again I understand. My last few visits here in Ottawa (many years ago) were not good. It was a very 5 mins or so and 1 or 2 did give me attitude for it!? I don't want to repeat that (that's my concern). In Vegas last year I walked in, sat down and 3 ladies in a row came to see me. Like c'mom! Let me have a beer!

 

Also I feel bad. I really don't have the money to spend a lot of time in the CR ($100 is a lot for me). I remember one lady was not getting any clients. She seemed really disappointed and I felt bad for her :-( I was not rejecting her, just did not have the funds for it.

 

Bottom line (and to clear up my concerns) it's not the asking part that's the issue, it's the potential "attitude" that I am concerned about.

 

Sounds like Barb's is the popular choice. I will recommend it to the groom.

 

Gentlemen, again I thank you.

[castle 38816]

I agree that sitting right up at the stage is the best way to not get approached so much. But notice I said "so much". No matter what you will get approached. Best thing to do is just be polite and let the lady know that you're just there for the show.

 

Usually they won't ask for a dance right up front, they'll usually ask if they can sit with you, to which I reply something to the effect of "You're more than welcome to sit with me, but just so you know I'm just here for the stage show today." They're usually very appreciative that I didn't waste their time and they move on without incident and wishing me a good evening.

 

It might seem more polite to let them sit with you when asked. But in actuality you're just taking money out of their pockets. And like previously mentioned, they're paying to be there too. Letting them sit down with you and spend 15-20 mins chatting with you only to find out you're not taking her for a dance could potentially lead to a slightly irate dancer lol.

[theoldguy 507]

I have post-club late suppers with a group of strippers every so often and love listening to them talk shop. The one major faux-pas that they all agree on is asking them to sit with you and chatting them up with no intention of going for dances - that gets them really mad. Beyond that most of them are fine with being told that you're just watching the stage show or that you're waiting for one of your regulars. One caveat? They tend to remember and wont approach you next time they see you.

 

And the ones that get upset at polite rejection? You most likely arent missing much.

[whiteman 14028]

I have post-club late suppers with a group of strippers every so often and love listening to them talk shop. The one major faux-pas that they all agree on is asking them to sit with you and chatting them up with no intention of going for dances - that gets them really mad. Beyond that most of them are fine with being told that you're just watching the stage show or that you're waiting for one of your regulars. One caveat? They tend to remember and wont approach you next time they see you.

 

And the ones that get upset at polite rejection? You most likely arent missing much.

Actually one of my own problems is that I like to see certain girls, and I'm not interested in other girls. Giving them the "I'm only here to see the stage show" excuse falls flat when they see you taking another girl into the CR. What's the best excuse for those situations?

 

Also, to OP, a good place where you won't be assaulted constantly by dancers is Taboo, Playmate, and Silver Dollar.

[theoldguy 507]

Just reread my post whiteman, I've addressed that :p

[sandimoon 72517]

Actually one of my own problems is that I like to see certain girls, and I'm not interested in other girls. Giving them the "I'm only here to see the stage show" excuse falls flat when they see you taking another girl into the CR. What's the best excuse for those situations?

.

 

" You seem nice but I'm here to see a specific girl(s)

& I'd hate to keep you from making money ."

 

The one major faux-pas that they all agree on is asking them to sit with you and chatting them up with no intention of going for dances - that gets them really mad.

And the ones that get upset at polite rejection? You most likely arent missing much.

 

Totally.

I have friends in Windsor who danced there & in Detroit.

I was dumbfounded by the money they had to spend to work at a club,

so I get the hustle aspect of the business.

But I agree with theoldguy; they would much

rather you be honest than waste their time.

It gives them the chance to make money elsewhere.

Besides, you have every right to say no.

It's the same as escorting.

At the agency I would go through the spiel,

describe myself, quote the rate & sometimes there would be this pause.

Most guys don't want to insult a lady, so I jumped in an gave them the out.

" Is it about the money or me because I can

have work get someone else call you, just tell me what you are looking for?"

"Really, sure, that would be great."

I'm not in competition with anyone nor every man's taste.

No biggie!

The ones who are turned down & get snotty have issues & a

visually based industry is clearly not the best career choice for them.

Also, it isn't your job to feed their egos.

It's the other way around!

Sandi

[Phaedrus 209521]

I had a disappointing time in Niagara Falls, being asked every 5 minutes. I was even told I was being rude for not going for a dance with someone. First time that ever happened.

 

Rude? I was told I was gay for not going to CR with someone in NF. Needless to say, I warned all the guys I was with off the person who said that... clearly she had lessons to learn on basic marketing, as well as basic courtesy.

 

I don't think they are paid anything for their stage dances. In fact they have to pay hefty fees to be allowed to work there (DJ fee, bar fee....).

 

True, AFAIK. Dancers have to pay to work (house fees, buying mandatory drinks, tipping bouncers and the DJ). The only make $$$ when you actually give them $$$... and they have to make quite a bit just to break even for the night.

 

Usually they won't ask for a dance right up front, they'll usually ask if they can sit with you, to which I reply something to the effect of "You're more than welcome to sit with me, but just so you know I'm just here for the stage show today."

 

+1 on that. Really, the nastiest thing you can do to a dancer is to string her along and let her spend time on you when you have no intention of giving her $$$.

 

Of course, if she knows that and then decides to spend time with you anyway, that's her call....

[bluethunder01 1111]

I haven't been at Pink's since 2001 but their Bachelor Parties were the best ones I ever saw. The "victims" were very happy on there first and only day on stage. Having 4 or 5 ladies all over you is a fantasy all men would love to have. I wonder why I phased out the visits, though?