Are incalls risky?

[cyclo 30131]

As Mod said it "Has nothing to do with reputation. Police act on public complaints." That's why clients should be discrete when they're coming and going. If you don't draw attention to yourself, you don't draw attention to your service provider.

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

I had a problem with a former client who was stalking me. About 18 months ago, I reported him to the police. They were terrific, all the way. What this means is that the police know who I am. They have my real name and my address. They know what I do and that I've been working privately for years. They were explicit: they're not concerned about anything other than my personal safety. I have as much right as anyone else to be protected from someone who is behaving maliciously, and since I was able to demonstrate that I had been clear and emphatic that I didn't want to hear from the guy again, they believed me 100%. My profession was immaterial.

 

There's very little political will in Vancouver to do anything about independent escorts who work much as I do. If no one complains, there's no problem. It's not worth the time and the cost that it would take for the police to investigate women like me. The big problems are happening with one or two agencies and the Asian micro-brothels.

[tonyb 1028]

Great discussion and sharing of personal experiences.

 

In that vein, has anyone from cerb ever been charged under any of Canada's prostitution-related laws? Has anyone ever been caught up in a police raid related to having sex? Has anyone ever been approached by the police about their sex-related activity?

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

In that vein, has anyone from cerb ever been charged under any of Canada's prostitution-related laws? Has anyone ever been caught up in a police raid related to having sex? Has anyone ever been approached by the police about their sex-related activity?

 

Tonyb, it's only appropriate to speak about our individual, personal experiences, so it's unlikely that you'll get meaningful replies to your queries. Moreover, this is personal information that many people would not want to disclose to strangers on a public forum.

 

If you're interested in convictions related to prostitution, keeping a bawdy house and so on, you might search the Canadian Legal Information Institute database which provides links to judgments that have been made in the provincial courts and the Supreme Court of Canada.

[mod 135640]

Apparently (from what a lady told me) In Winnipeg she was booked by a undercover officer and the date was at a local hotel. The undercover officer apparently asked if they could meet first in the hotels lounge. She slipped up and made a comment about heading back to the room to get the date started (probably making some comment about price or specific sex acts) and she was charged for public solicitation for discussing this in a public place.

 

Since we do not have any entrapment laws in canada they can get away with this (i think, technically the deal had been done in private previous to the meeting so i doubt it would hold up in court) .... But this i believe is not a common occurrence (never heard of it happening anywhere else n canada) so it may have been either because Winnipeg (city council) was going to extremes to go after any form of prostitution and since they were using actual uniform police at by-law infraction calls the police probably got pressured into this. Whatever reason its stretching it as that law was to stop street solicitation and it is being abused to use this way in winnipeg.

[tonyb 1028]

Ah! Your point is well taken, Samantha. It just seemed to me that there is lots of hearsay but not much fact.

 

Thanks for the link to the legal database; it's quite insightful.

 

I guess that if you keep things clean and discrete, and don't have something else illegal or troublesome going on, and no one complains, the police will leave you alone.

[roamingguy 300292]

Oh so in the case that they know of a private sp who minds their own business they dont generally ever just go and make and example of them or anything like that due to political pressure or something?

 

Really and generally speaking (yes likely some exceptions), a private SP minding her own business, the police won't know about her, because she is private and minding her own business. As has been said before police act on public complaints.

Those complaints usually would be the result of a SP who isn't so private or doesn't mind her own business...in short a SP who is indiscreet, or possibly a client (prospective client) who is indiscreet

and his indiscretion has fall out on the lady

RG

[Madison_Sparks 3740]

Quick question here. If an sp is very well known (for great service and providing a safe incall location with no drugs, multiple workers etc) and respected with great reviews and all, do you think that her being well known will place her as a larger target for the police or will it have the opposite effect, speaking in terms of the risk of incalls at her location.

 

For example would the police think since she is not doing other illegal activities, her and her clients should be left alone by law enforcement, or would they every think that since she is well known in the city they want to make and example and bust her and her clients and tell the news and the whole bit?

 

IMO where i am located i am not bothered at all. i do not currently have an in call location, but have for many years in the past. I've never had an issure with LE. actually they have been welcome to my incall locations and have taken the open invitation with much respect to what i do. they have never harrassed my clients and i have never had a complaint from others in the area as well.

 

I guess the two most important factors to weigh in on when it come to the risk of an in call are:

 

(1) is the girl you are going to meet seem like a level headed proffestional with a mind on her surroundings?

 

(2) What is the areas attitude towards the service of incalls? most areas are primarly concerned with the effects on the community then what you do in your own place.

[beautifulblonde6969 100]

Nicely said.

 

Whose to say what could happen if you have a bad client, or someone finds out and reports you to the front desk. Could the hotel call the police? Or do they need proof of whats going on?

 

Worse case scenerio, theoretically speaking.

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

If you use hotel rooms as incall locations, your best bet is to use only four- and five-star hotels. They will safeguard your privacy and, by extension, that of your visitors. Frivolous complaints are not looked upon favourably by the management. So, if someone were to go to, say, the Fairmont Hotel Vancouver and say that Samantha Evans is a prostitute and is using a room on the 8th floor to entertain clients, the hotel would look at the register and discover that Samantha Evans is not registered there. Has never been registered there, in fact. No one could produce an ad where she's purported to say that she's entertaining this evening at that establishment because she would never publish such a thing in an ad of her own. If someone were to produce a post from one of the other -erb boards where some helpful person noted that she's working at that particular hotel, it's still meaningless and the hotel isn't going to investigate unless there's a bigger problem. If Samantha or her guests are causing a disturbance, making a lot of noise late at night or something like that, the hotel will be concerned. They will call the room or go to the door and say that there's a complaint about noise, or whatever.

 

People stay in hotels all the time. People take hotel rooms in the cities where they live, too. They use them to meet illicit lovers, which is perfectly legal. It's also legal to entertain a guest in a hotel room. The difficulty is when a lady entertains a sequence of male guests and that information becomes known to the hotel management. The hotel is entitled to ask anyone to leave, for any reason. Innkeeper's Acts are provincial legislation. They basically outline the terms under which an Innkeeper can ask someone to leave the premises, and those terms generally cover as wide a range as possible. It would never be a smart thing to argue with a hotel manager who asks you to leave.

 

Seriously, though, a client is not going to report a prostitute to the hotel management because they would be implicated in anything that happens after that: anonymous complaints don't get very far. A trouble-maker may report someone to the police, but they will also have to give their personal information to the police when they do that. Then the police will have to decide whether they want to take action. If they do, they basically take a room across the hall or next door to the working lady and keep track of the traffic going in and coming out of her room. They may attempt to interview some of her guests, most of whom will not be willing to cooperate because of their own fears of exposure. It's a long, drawn-out and expensive thing for the police to be involved in and it's likely to upset other hotel guests on the same floor, so the large, 4- and 5-star hotels don't encourage it.

 

But if you go to a No-Tell Motel... all bets are off! Your privacy and your visitors' privacy are not as secure.

 

Nicely said.

 

Whose to say what could happen if you have a bad client, or someone finds out and reports you to the front desk. Could the hotel call the police? Or do they need proof of whats going on?

 

Worse case scenerio, theoretically speaking.

[StormSeason 137]

Thank you for your thoughts on this Samantha and for the suggestion of 4 and 5 star hotels......perfect sense.

[Guest ***t***iv***]

 

and the Asian micro-brothels.

 

 

what is a micro-brothel?

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

what is a micro-brothel?

 

They're not official brothels, and they're usually temporary. In the Lower Mainland, here, they're usually houses which have been rented for a few months and are part of a network. The Asian SPs work in them for a few days, a few weeks or a few months and then go on to another in another part of the Lower Mainland, the province or elsewhere in Canada. The proprietors have learned that there's only so much high-traffic that any neighbourhood can tolerate, so they move around.

[whatwhatwhat 100]

I have a couple questions, but I'll start with:

If you know of an escort who's been incalling in an upscale hotel long term w/o problems (so claims) alongside some of her other friends in other rooms, and the staff's aware, is there any significant risk? Any opinions/thoughts?