Male Pubic Hair

[roamingguy 300292]

When I had my doctors appointment, and I used to have a jungle, he commented about my newly shaved look. I just told him the lady I'm dating (not really a lie) prefers it shaved. Hell, I get my STI/STD testing done through him, not through a clinic, if that doesn't embarrass me, why should shaving. He's a medical professional and knows I'm sexually active

RG

[Guest S**a*Q]

I'm heading for a more permanent way... Laser hair removal.

 

Yeah it's normally really really expensive, but keep an eye out on groupon and other coupon sites like that. I ended up getting 1200$ x 2 for like 200$. Which was good for two body parts, I chose under arms and bikini line.

 

I've gone for one treatment so far, no change, but I will advise. --(It doesn't really hurt, more like a little electrical shock.)

[JoyfulC 132299]

When I had my doctors appointment, and I used to have a jungle, he commented about my newly shaved look. I just told him the lady I'm dating (not really a lie) prefers it shaved. Hell, I get my STI/STD testing done through him, not through a clinic, if that doesn't embarrass me, why should shaving. He's a medical professional and knows I'm sexually active

RG

 

And I've never been embarrassed in front of any family doctor either. I always tell them I am a professional, as that's relevant information to their role in helping me manage my health.

 

But it's different with emergency room staff and such. I've spent a fair bit of time in emergency rooms and on orthopedic wards, both for myself and with my husband, and I was surprised at how judgmental some medical personnel can be. Once, when I landed in a Calgary hospital with a broken femur, the nurse who finished cutting off my clothing spotted a string and asked, with clear contempt and distaste, if I were on my period. I was, of course. And I told her I would take care of it myself, if she brought me what I needed to deal with it. (And that's actually my preference.) Still, I found her attitude quite unprofessional. After all, it's not like I planned to go out and break my leg that day just so I could force some poor nurse into changing my tampon for me. Imagine if she'd encountered this same condition with someone who wasn't capable of dealing with it on their own? Would they have had to be subjected to her obvious disgust? She was a nurse, for goodness sake. It's part of the job description.

 

Another time, following surgery, my husband was a bit backed up. I went to the nurses' station and asked for a glycerin suppository for him. I could tell by the looks on their faces that if there were any way they could avoid giving him one, they were going to. They were all about convincing me that he didn't need one. Until I offered to insert it, and then they dropped all objections, and got me one for him.

 

And once when he was in physio following surgery, one of his balls dropped out of the side of the liner in his shorts. You'd have thought he was thrill flashing the therapist. She made a big indignant stink about it (and while I'm normally pretty easy going, one sure fire way to get me up in your face is to attack my husband). Being old hands at physio, we decided we'd do for ourselves, and he refused to return to her. We told her that if she caused us any trouble, we'd launch a formal complaint over her behaviour.

 

I tend to be very shy, and will go out of my way to avoid an embarrassing situation or one where I might have to face some ignorant judgmental ass. I felt that being shaved was the best thing for my business, and so I was shaved (despite many comments and requests to the contrary). I may be yet again someday. But I must be honest and admit I did feel stigmatized by it in certain situations.

[roamingguy 300292]

From what you say, the shame and embarrassment should be theirs. They are medical professionals, they should conduct themselves like professionals

RG

[JoyfulC 132299]

From what you say, the shame and embarrassment should be theirs. They are medical professionals, they should conduct themselves like professionals

RG

 

You're absolutely right, of course. But that doesn't make it any more pleasant when you find yourself on the wrong end of it.

 

If, with your help, we decide that being shaved is the new "industry standard" for high quality service, then I hope you realize that is going to exclude a lot of otherwise decent guys and good customers who, for one reason or another, simply cannot or will not shave. I know you''re a great customer, and you are able to shave and prefer to do so. But please don't be snobby about it. It isn't for everyone, and a lot of those guys are really decent too!

[roamingguy 300292]

I'm not snobby about guys who can't shave. But if a lady prefers to do oral on guys who are shaved (and she may not like unshaven but will still perform oral, or she may not) she shouldn't be considered less professional because of it.

That's not being snobby, I just don't think it's right calling it unprofessional when a lady doesn't like to perform oral on unshaven guys

RG

[JoyfulC 132299]

I'm not snobby about guys who can't shave. But if a lady prefers to do oral on guys who are shaved (and she may not like unshaven but will still perform oral, or she may not) she shouldn't be considered less professional because of it.

That's not being snobby, I just don't think it's right calling it unprofessional when a lady doesn't like to perform oral on unshaven guys

RG

 

But unshaven is still the norm in society. While there may be an unusually high percentage of shaved guys on CERB, that doesn't reflect the market as a whole.

 

If an SP is going to refuse to provide normal services to someone for essentially being normally unshaved, I think she should disclose that fact. I do think it's unprofessional if she allows her undisclosed preference to get her off the hook for providing some perfectly normal services (while taking the rate for full service), all the while blaming the customer and putting him down for being normal and natural. If he's unclean, that's one thing. Help him clean up, or give him back his money and put him out. But hairy isn't unclean, and it's an insult to suggest that.

[Guest]

I'm not snobby about guys who can't shave. But if a lady prefers to do oral on guys who are shaved (and she may not like unshaven but will still perform oral, or she may not) she shouldn't be considered less professional because of it.

That's not being snobby, I just don't think it's right calling it unprofessional when a lady doesn't like to perform oral on unshaven guys

RG

 

I agree with you. I have nothing wrong with men having pubic hair. It wont stop me from providing oral. It is just so much fun to play with the little guys down there too and sorry I will not do that if they are not shaved. I don't think that I provide less of a service because of this. I don't think it's snobby. I'm not talking for every sp, I'm just talking for myself and this is just my opinion.

 

There are great guys that are not shaved. I still provide a great service for these men. It's just that they do not get any play with their little guys down there. It to me is a ymmv kind of situation because it does effect the service in a little way. It is not so drastic that I'm saying that I provide one thing and do not honor that set thing. I do not commit to a service before seeing clients anyways. It is just the little guys down there don't get as much attention.

 

It doesn't bother me if guys have hair down there. I just prefer shaved and I do not want hair in my mouth.

[JoyfulC 132299]

Peachy, I can see your point WRT BLS, but RG had said earlier:

 

"...By not shaving yourself it may make certain activities (bj,bls) completely unpleasant for the lady, and they either don't do them or do them but hate doing them. ..."

 

BJ?? That just boggled my mind!

[billybob 20128]

 

If an SP is going to refuse to provide normal services to someone for essentially being normally unshaved, I think she should disclose that fact.

 

Do you think ymmv covers this?

[Guest]

I think that if an escort is not willing to provide a bj because a gentlemen is not shaved is one thing and yes she should tell her clients this. I was talking about playing with the little guys down there the balls. If a gentleman is not shaved down there he should not expect a girl to put his balls in her mouth and this is a ymmv kind of thing. I do not advertise this it is just a fun thing to do while giving a bj is to play with the balls. A lot of guys like this and request their balls to be played with. Some guys expect you to do this even if they are not shaved. If they like this and enjoy this they should shave or at least closely trim. It's not like I am saying I provide a service and do not honor it. I still provide bj's, it's just that the guys down there do not get the same attention they would if they were shaved. That's why I brought up ymmv. I'm not speaking for anyone or everyone. This is just my opinion on this particular subject. I do not know if every sp feels this way and deals with this situation in this manner.

[billybob 20128]

A lot of guys like this and request their balls to be played with. If they like this and enjoy this they should shave or at least closely trim.

 

Done by you....others are ok with this.

[roamingguy 300292]

Peachy, I can see your point WRT BLS, but RG had said earlier:

 

"...By not shaving yourself it may make certain activities (bj,bls) completely unpleasant for the lady, and they either don't do them or do them but hate doing them. ..."

 

BJ?? That just boggled my mind!

 

By not shaving yourself it may make certain activities (bj, bls) completely unpleasant for the lady, and they either don't do them or do them but hate doing them.

Are you telling me that there are no SP's who find performing oral (bj, bls) on unshaven men unpleasant, and they either don't do it, or they do it but hate doing it. And in my statement, I bolded it for you, I said may make certain activities... Personally, I couldn't imagine a ball full of hair in one's mouth as pleasant

And I have never, absolutely never equated unshaven with unclean or unhygienic. Not washing, that I equate with unclean

To me this is completely a ymmv. And every gentleman booking an encounter can ask a lady before hand whether be unshaven will affect service. Case in point, me. I know I'm overweight, 50's bald, and for ladies I'm seeing for the first time, I always ask about my appearance (maybe a little insecurity) if that is an issue. The ladies cannot forsee every eventuality, but the gentleman calling, he knows what he is looking for from an encounter and any possible personal matters that may affect the service

RG

[bewlayb 7480]

To me this is completely a ymmv. And every gentleman booking an encounter can ask a lady before hand whether be unshaven will affect service.

RG

 

This seems like a reasonable suggestion, assuming that is, the lady you hope to see will entertain such detailed questions about her services. This recent thread suggests that is not always the case.

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92588

 

These are interesting times for sure. Clearly we are in a state of transition vis-à-vis preferred norms for male body hair, not unlike what we saw happen to women beginning about 35 years ago. First it was a bit of general bush pruning, then shaving only around the vulva and closer cropping of the pubes, and finally birthday baldness. Based on the female experience, are men heading down the same grooming path to hairlessness?

 

Twelve years ago, when I was toying with the idea of doing a little manscaping, I asked SPs about their preferences for male grooming. Without exception, the answer I got was that a little overall trimming (taming!) was nice, but fully shaven was unmanly... unless I was a porn star. Today, more and more, I am getting the feeling that shaved balls and cropped pubes are becoming the accepted and expected norm. Can a new form of sexy male pattern baldness be far off?

[roamingguy 300292]

And the gentleman can ask the question without being explicit. All he has to say is "I'm unshaven, will that affect any aspect of our encounter?"

RG

[billybob 20128]

So when you book an encounter you should specify natural, trimmed or completely shaven? Maybe it's me but I think that's a bit much.

 

If natural is still "the norm", and I have no idea if it, is then I wouldn't think it would be something most guys would think to ask about.

[bewlayb 7480]

So when you book an encounter you should specify natural, trimmed or completely shaven? Maybe it's me but I think that's a bit much.

 

I agree 100%. Seems silly. As a client, I never thought I would be turned down for the way my curlies were coiffed!

[castle 38816]

If a gentleman is not shaved down there he should not expect a girl to put his balls in her mouth and this is a ymmv kind of thing. I do not advertise this it is just a fun thing to do while giving a bj is to play with the balls. A lot of guys like this and request their balls to be played with. Some guys expect you to do this even if they are not shaved.

 

I dunno....call me crazy but I've always thought it was common sense to shave your nuts prior to getting BLS. I always figured something like that just went without saying.

 

No way would I expect a lady to stick my balls in her mouth if they're not shaved. That's just nasty. Of course they'd be clean but regardless the ol' "dental floss" jokes come to mind.

 

My philosophy to something like this is to just think "Is this something I would stick in my mouth?"....Well honestly...I wouldn't want balls in my mouth period lol. But this goes for both sexes. I don't go down on a full bush on a lady. I've had one too many unpleasant experiences doing this with past girlfriends. Now the kitty needs to be shaved or at least closely trimmed for me to venture down yonder.

 

Now guys and girls who don't want to shave, whether they be married, old fashioned, etc. That's their choice and their prerogative. It's their body. And what they choose to do with their balls or pubic areas is their choice. But it should be kept in mind that where someone decides to put their mouth is also their prerogative.

[bewlayb 7480]

I don't go down on a full bush on a lady. I've had one too many unpleasant experiences doing this with past girlfriends. Now the kitty needs to be shaved or at least closely trimmed for me to venture down yonder.

 

Now guys and girls who don't want to shave, whether they be married, old fashioned, etc. That's their choice and their prerogative. It's their body. And what they choose to do with their balls or pubic areas is their choice. But it should be kept in mind that where someone decides to put their mouth is also their prerogative.

 

Of course everyone has choices and no one should be expected to do something they find unpleasant. However, as I stated earlier these are changing times for the norms of pubic grooming.

 

Only a handful of years ago, there was no real thought given to male grooming down there. It just wasn't done by regular guys. Today, we see here that the topic will induce a lively discussion and potentially determine the "mileage" a client can expect. This is new territory and we will have to adjust to it; perhaps having to get used to disclosing our grooming habits before an SP will agree to full service or a porn star experience, etc. I hope it doesn't come to that, but in matters of pubic hair, the times they are a-changin'.

 

As for me - I'm old-school - haven't suffered any pubic-induced trauma, so I'll happily munch on whatever hairstyle my fair lady is serving. I suppose part of the reason I am this way is because I come from a day when variety was naturally offered - by the texture, colour, density and shape of her God-given pubic frock. I never encountered anything less than a full or lightly trimmed rug for the first 15 years of my dining experience. I have nothing but fond memories of each and every one. In the recent 15 years I've had to get accustomed to the idea that less is more. And I have. In some ways, I see today's women offering even greater variety - from all natural to fully shaven. And I'm loving it!

 

So for me today, I'm receptive to all manner of grooming styles. Just like the hair on her head, make-up on her face, and clothes on her body, the pubic style she wears on the day we meet is her choice. I respect her choice and don't usually have problems enjoying it. In our hairless future, I hope enough ladies will still be around having a similar attitude and allow us guys the opportunity to offer up whatever hairstyle we feel like wearing on any given day.

[Sensual Gabriella 151]

Honestly I think it all depends on the extent of the hair I have some clients with a very well trimmed area and it too is very nice, yet yes shaving and being completely clean can be nice to. My suggestion to all men is really at the end of the day you need to do something either trim or shave it is consideration hehe :p xo

[JoyfulC 132299]

Are you telling me that there are no SP's who find performing oral (bj, bls) on unshaven men unpleasant, and they either don't do it, or they do it but hate doing it.

 

Are you telling us that there are? I'm not so sure. This is the first I've heard of it.

 

BLS is one thing, but I can't imagine anyone in this business being so fussy that she'd refuse to give a BJ to someone sporting natural hair. Or so precious that she'd hate doing it.

 

Personally, I couldn't imagine a ball full of hair in one's mouth as pleasant

 

I don't know about you, but I'm guessing there are guys here who can't imagine a lot of the things we do as being pleasant. Myself? I don't find the hair all that onerous. It's really only been in recent years that guys started showing up without any.

 

And I have never, absolutely never equated unshaven with unclean or unhygienic.

 

Nope, but you're not the only person who's posted here. Some have suggested that shaved is more hygienic.

 

To me this is completely a ymmv. And every gentleman booking an encounter can ask a lady before hand whether be unshaven will affect service. Case in point, me. I know I'm overweight, 50's bald, and for ladies I'm seeing for the first time, I always ask about my appearance (maybe a little insecurity) if that is an issue. The ladies cannot forsee every eventuality, but the gentleman calling, he knows what he is looking for from an encounter and any possible personal matters that may affect the service

RG

 

I agree with that. And as you said below, it can be done in such a way as to not be crass or indiscreet. If it's going to make that much difference, then it's probably better that they ask. It just never occurred to me that it would.

[LeeRichards 177238]

Well I bought this about 20 years ago

 

 

I have zero hair on my head or a vacuum...but once I get one maybe I will try it on the frank and the beans someday ;) unless there is a female volunteer in the crowd to operate it...heh heh

[crankF 12893]

Of course everyone has choices and no one should be expected to do something they find unpleasant. However, as I stated earlier these are changing times for the norms of pubic grooming.

 

Only a handful of years ago, there was no real thought given to male grooming down there. It just wasn't done by regular guys. Today, we see here that the topic will induce a lively discussion and potentially determine the "mileage" a client can expect. This is new territory and we will have to adjust to it; perhaps having to get used to disclosing our grooming habits before an SP will agree to full service or a porn star experience, etc. I hope it doesn't come to that, but in matters of pubic hair, the times they are a-changin'.

 

As for me - I'm old-school - haven't suffered any pubic-induced trauma, so I'll happily munch on whatever hairstyle my fair lady is serving. I suppose part of the reason I am this way is because I come from a day when variety was naturally offered - by the texture, colour, density and shape of her God-given pubic frock. I never encountered anything less than a full or lightly trimmed rug for the first 15 years of my dining experience. I have nothing but fond memories of each and every one. In the recent 15 years I've had to get accustomed to the idea that less is more. And I have. In some ways, I see today's women offering even greater variety - from all natural to fully shaven. And I'm loving it!

 

So for me today, I'm receptive to all manner of grooming styles. Just like the hair on her head, make-up on her face, and clothes on her body, the pubic style she wears on the day we meet is her choice. I respect her choice and don't usually have problems enjoying it. In our hairless future, I hope enough ladies will still be around having a similar attitude and allow us guys the opportunity to offer up whatever hairstyle we feel like wearing on any given day.

This thread has given me an idea for mid life career jolt. If there is a vo-tech course I can do in pubic barbering, I'd take it. I'd like to open a unisex pubic coiffure shop

 

Step right up Sir or Ma'am; Will that be short back and sides, shag, fade, crew cut, brush cut, Mohawk, or Kojak(that's skinhead for you youngsters)?

However when it comes to scrotal shaving; I'll only be using disposables. No way would I wield a straight razor near some dude's sensitive manbag.

[OuttaControl 100]

Has anyone seen "Don't mess with the Zohan" starring Adam Sandler. He was quite proud of his big bush (and all the grannies loved him) LOL. Sorry to mess with the thread but it seemed appropriate.

[OddSox 253]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2189259/Hair-removal-creates-open-wounds-vulnerable-infection-warns-medical-expert.html

 

Family physician Emily Gibson said that removing the hair is like creating 'open wounds' that are prone to infection and even sexually-transmitted disease, such as herpes, if in contact with another person.

 

She added that 'freshly-shaved pubic areas and genitals are also more vulnerable to herpes infections due to the microscopic wounds being exposed to virus carried by mouth or genitals'.

 

'Pubic hair does have a purpose, providing cushion against friction that can cause skin abrasion and injury,' she said.

 

'[its] removal naturally irritates and inflames the hair follicles left behind, leaving microscopic open wounds.'

 

The expert said that she has seen cellulitis, a soft tissue bacterial infection, in areas including a man's scrotum and penis.

 

'Some clinicians are finding that freshly-shaved pubic areas and genitals are also more vulnerable to herpes'

 

She compared newly-bare skin to a 'scorched battlefield'.

 

'No matter what expensive and complex weapons are used - razor blades, electric shavers, tweezers, waxing, depilatories, electrolysis - hair, like crab grass, always grows back and eventually wins,' she wrote in the report.