what makes a PSE

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

I am with you here... I have been trying to figure out how to best do that without being vulgar and explicit. Yes, that may seem weird coming from an escort but I do like to be tasteful in my marketing.

 

Plus, I feel so bad about the YMMV part. I do not want to get someone's hopes up or to turn someone down about such things. I have boundaries and limits but with the YMMV part it is about that little thing called chemistry and that is not based on appearance or age or other superficials. It is not even totally about attitude. It can be simply about how you smell to me (I am not taking cologne here but the stuff of hormones and pheromones).

 

i totally agree with you Charlotte. I don't like the vulgar and explicit stuff myself...and chemistry is definitely number one.

[Apex2006 1071]

I like to think if there is a porno that is simular to your service.....Then you should think about sating PSE

 

It's not just Greek and BBBJ, but a total "ACT" so to speak!

 

I know one SP that offers CBJ and NO GREEK but her performance is 2 to non and is higly PSE in my book!

 

Apex

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

I find the acronyms frustrating. I generally say that I provide a rich, sensual GFE. But I enjoy Greek. A lot. I don't do BBBJ and I rarely allow releases on my body. I will if the chemistry between the client and myself is right. I'll encourage it, then, if I think he'd enjoy it. I just don't advertise it as an option available for new clients.

 

Chemistry, connection, the "je ne sais pas" of it all is what makes the difference to me, every time. I can encourage it to happen, but I can't manufacture it. I do tackle one of my regular clients at the door and whether we'll ever make it to the bedroom is an open question. Does that make it a PSE? I don't know. It's just the way we connect with each other.

 

Another has me visit him in his office sometimes, dressed in business attire and as circumspect as can be. He's introduced me to some of the people he works with, implying that I'm a client. But sometime after his office door closes, I'm going to be turned over his knee, skirt up, and spanked hard before a CBJ or being bent over the desk. The fantasy aspect of it is a kind of PSE for him.

 

Maybe these terms really are related to the people involved more than they're descriptive of something easy to offer?

[esoterica 624]

I don't think about GFE, PSE, etc. I don't think I have ever had sex the same way twice - be it with a provider, lover, wife, GF or one-night-stand. And the differences are why I am still sexually active, sexually interested and am so happy to see you.

[Emma Alexandra 123368]

I don't think about GFE, PSE, etc. I don't think I have ever had sex the same way twice - be it with a provider, lover, wife, GF or one-night-stand. And the differences are why I am still sexually active, sexually interested and am so happy to see you.

 

you certainly are Mr. Happy...hehe

[Love2Cum 100]

I think PSE is a combination of services and attitude. I expect someone who's PSE to be willing to be aggressive, not so interested in talking about non-sexual stuff (life, etc.) and relatively vocal in bed. I think greek is not a requirement but I would consider BBBJ and cum shot basically everywhere to be on the menu.

[spud271 47779]

I agree with you Charlotte, I do not believe there is ever a need to be vulgar or explicit. When I read vulgar and explicit comments on an SP's website, I find it to be a turn off actually. I prefer women with class, of course that would mostly come from how and where I grew up.

 

As for YMMV, I agree you don't want to get anyone's hopes up, however letting people know certain this may or may not happen is always good as well. If yourself as an SP do not click with the client then it is very understandable why YMMV. As you say the reasons may very, could be cologne, could be attitude, anything. I can usually tell within a few minutes how things are going and if I will repeat or not. Of course, the more I repeat, the more is on the menu as we build more of friendship/relationship. Chemistry cannot always be there, so never feel bad about it.

 

I am with you here... I have been trying to figure out how to best do that without being vulgar and explicit. Yes, that may seem weird coming from an escort but I do like to be tasteful in my marketing.

 

Plus, I feel so bad about the YMMV part. I do not want to get someone's hopes up or to turn someone down about such things. I have boundaries and limits but with the YMMV part it is about that little thing called chemistry and that is not based on appearance or age or other superficials. It is not even totally about attitude. It can be simply about how you smell to me (I am not taking cologne here but the stuff of hormones and pheromones).

[Apex2006 1071]

Why don't we just define what GFE is, that may be less confusing!

 

Apex

[Guest C*****tte]

There are thousands if not millions of clients in North America - there is no consensus on these definitions yet every few weeks someone tries to figure it out. For some it is attitude and for others it is specific acts and for others it is a combination. No consensus. That is just the way it is.

[esoterica 624]

Why don't we just define what GFE is, that may be less confusing!

 

Apex

 

For me, a GFE is when I don't want to leave, and I cannot wait to come back.

 

For me, a PSE is when I have to leave - to recover, and I cannot wait to come back.

[spud271 47779]

I think you have finally been able to put all of our thoughts on this subject into words finally esoterica!

 

For me, a GFE is when I don't want to leave, and I cannot wait to come back.

 

For me, a PSE is when I have to leave - to recover, and I cannot wait to come back.

[Apex2006 1071]

your so sweet...kisses

 

 

 

 

Cheezy! come on!

[PistolPete 61421]

Well said Charlotte, there is not been a clear cut definition. I feel that time spent is about attitude,chemistry that really makes any session really GFE.;-)

 

There are thousands if not millions of clients in North America - there is no consensus on these definitions yet every few weeks someone tries to figure it out. For some it is attitude and for others it is specific acts and for others it is a combination. No consensus. That is just the way it is.

[AttilaTheHun 356]

I'm from Montreal and this how I define GFE vs PSE

 

GFE includes DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Massage, cuddling, Chit Chat, MSOG, MPOS, COB these are most things a real Montreal GF would provide me.

 

If the chemistry is right then Greek could be added which would make it GFE+

 

PSE would include DFK, DATY, DTBBBJCIM, MSOG, Greek, ATM, Prostate massage, Toys, COB and MPOS and a lot less emphasis on the chit chat except when she says F**k me harder or I love your C**k so deep inside my Pu**y...etc.

 

PSE + would include BBBJCIMWS, light domination and Fisting

 

I agree that the gagging DT stuff should be banned. Its dangerous and quite frankly not very arousing.

 

Hun

[mod 135640]

Assuming different options are available with GFE or PSE will only make you mad when you find out these are not available from some ladies.

 

GFE and PSE are "STYLES of SERVICE" and not actual services!!

 

You CAN NOT assume PSE or GFE include any specific services.

 

STYLES....

 

Mechanical Style: This means no chemistry and just what it is (Sex) no illusion of lust or passion.

 

GFE: Girl friend experience (Does not include specific services) this is a style of date where chemistry is tried to be created, feelings of lust and passion. Usually includes kissing and a more intimate fantasy. The lady appears (and often is) genuinely interested in pleasing you and often enjoys being pleasured as well.

 

PSE: Porn star experience (Does not include specific services) this is also a style of date. It is not a romantic/passion/chemistry type encounter it is like what you see in the porn movies (A little dirty and hardcore)

SAFE PSE/GFE: means condoms are used for oral sex (and possibly DATY protection is used) - Some girlfriends and porn stars insist on condoms for everything too guys! CONDOMS are used IN ALL STYLES (Some people assume condoms are not used with these styles as often real girl friends and porn stars do not use condoms). DO NOT ASSUME THIS AS YOU WOULD BE VERY WRONG - IT IS UNSAFE TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX!

 

You guys who assume services are included in these styles are setting yourself up to be let down. Just because one lady offers specific services (and possibly markets it as GFE/PSE does not mean the next lady will offer the same services.

 

They are usually similar as a really good GFE would include kissing, bbbj and some touching and rubbing to build chemistry and fantasy. If you feel she is actually attracted to you and into the encounter she may be (or she may be VERY good at her job - just go with it!)

 

Don't EXPECT any services - always ask or research first and if you show up with bad breath, rotten teeth, bad hygiene or dressed like a bum chances are you are going to be even more disappointed.

 

In Addition: One of the ladies PM'd me to mention that one of the reasons ladies may not kiss is from being unshaven. A lot of stubble can do a girl some major damage. I would assume this to be true with DATY as well with some.