Safety with BP

[Guest **l****uz]

Using BP is definitely a new thing for me and I am wondering if anyone can give me some advice on how to approach it with as much safety as possible. I do have two email addresses for contact but will also have a cellphone available for more precise and hopefully less cold communication.

[stbordie 387]

Why not just post here 1st, if you are skeptical of getting weirdos on bp, pretty sure most members here are "normal".

[DeeperConnection 19567]

As much as I hate to admit it, -------- is how I met the majority of great guys I've entertained, many of them multiple times.

As was suggested I never book anyone without quickly speaking with them. This has helped cut out the WOT and non serious inquires to which there are plenty. I also think there is alot to be said about guys who text for address as their first contact. I'm not sure why anyone would think this would be an acceptable introduction, regardless of them being cautious to areas of city, it will never come first to my safety and discretion.

Generally I find the early a.m to dinner time inquires to be the most uncomplicated, many will attempt to book extremely short notice (which frazzles me, personally) but there is a large "man with a plan" group who will book with notice and follow the basics that you ask them too such as call from car when you arrive etc.

I always took preference to those who would text a short introduction about themselves, along with when i felt would be the best time to call. I always thought this was sweet and very respectful.

If you can handle and weed through the b.s there are many gentlemen hidden within the nonsense enquires and rude downright weird risky morons.

The positive side of -------- is these guys are very transparent, so you will quickly discover if they are not worth seeing. The downside is that some hobbyists will test you with rude inquires for bb services as this is how they minimize their risk on a personal level. Which I sorta can appreciate given the increase in sp's offering these life threatning options.

I actually had an ad flagged and removed within 5 mins for simply posting "if you are seeking services = russian roulette I AM NOT YOUR GIRL!"

Apparently this isnt aloud to be posted, but no restrictions, and down for anything, anywhere, anytime is?!

 

Advertising here is also helpful, as is maintaining a profile to help the guys get to know you better. (and you can post longer ad, as bp has very small letter limit!"

 

Also when I book encounters, I ask them to call to confirm the encounter an hour or two before the time booked. This helps me to confirm they are still serious at which time I then provide my location. that way it is far less likely to have given my address only to have them cancel.

When booking in evenings to late night I often have them drive to a location or intersection close to my incall and then have them call from where I asked them to be, and then provide my address. This has cut out no shows almost entirely as of recent. If you get bad vibe, trust your instincts!

 

I also think it is very helpful to get any questions they may have, this simple question often offers surprising answers that would have otherwise been asked once you are at your encounter together.

 

Such as "if i only have 80, what can we do?" or "I assume your down for anything" and "so no restrictions?" " do you do greek" "can I bring my friend, can my friend use the rest of my hour after im done?" "can i just come by quickly and jerk off in the corner for free cuz im new in town and have a six pack" "how much for a 5 min bj?" "do you like black cock" can you take 13 inches?" in all holes?" "will their be anyone else at your place?" " can I bring drugs?" and so on and so forth. Asking them if they have any questions as you prefer to get all that out of the way so you can focus on having a fabulous encounter, has many, many times, saved me from otherwise inviting individuals to my location that would have wound up negotiating me once in my door, or compromising my safety or just plain creeped me out and been a regrettable awkward encounter.

It also helps to save weird or WOT callers as such to remind you of them when and if they attempt further b.s. with you.

Last but not least, if someone is asking alot of questions with services and your location do a search of the number on -------- to ensure you arent wasting your time responding to a lady who has nothing better to do than ruffle your feathers. This isn't unheard of as many of the ladies on -------- have no sense to focus on improving themselves instead causing issues for providers they feel may be a threat to them.

You may want to look into escorts canada's 2 week trial offer, as EC is far more reputable to hobbyists, I only just did this myself today so don't have an opinion just yet.

Welcome to cerb, and I hope all your encounters are respectful, enjoyable ones. Feel free to pm me should there be anything more you may want to enquire. I myself started out as an indie earlier this year, and found cerb to be full of answers to questions I had yet to consider asking myself.

Props to all the members for all the threads I've read into the wee hours, many, many nights. I learned many, many inportant things from this site and all the great members that contribute here. xoxo

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

With BP, you definitely have to use your instincts. Listen to how they talk to you and what kinds of questions they ask. You are swimming in a sea of people who haggle, bargin and want you ASAP. BP is comparable to a drive thru type restaurant. Fast, quick and easy. And while it's a gamble, callers hope the product and service is good but not always. If this is not the route you're looking to take in your business then I suggest you stick with other sites.

 

For every 10 guys, you will find one or two good clients who won't haggle or want the world for $80. Stick to your guns on your rate structuring and once they start asking a laundry list of questions, you know they are shopping around. In other words, you have to train these guys to follow YOUR procedures. If they don't like it, too bad for them. This is YOUR life, your livelihood and your health and safety. Don't compromise it when you feel like you're under the gun with them.

 

There are guys who will start asking for the address. Don't give it to them! Instead use one major intersection and get them to call you from there. And make sure you know they are there by asking how close by they are or if they are passing a certain store, etc. This way you know they are in the area. Before cell phones, many ladies would get the guy to call from a certain payphone so you would know they are in the area.

 

Once you seem to get a handle on it, like Deeperconnection said, you can see how transparent some of those guys are. There are other guys from other sites who also use BP and are not the "I have $80 and want it all in a half hour." It really is a mixed bag and I can only equate to like being a waitress in a restaurant. From 11 am -1 Pm, you will have that rush of inquiries and that is the key time of day to make money. Start answering the inquiries but have a filter of what are willing and not willing to put up with. And don't let them browbeat you into haggling with them. Act like you are in control even if you are nervous. Your body, your rules. I've had a few weirdos get really rude and I call them on it. I don't let them intimidate me whatsoever and they take a hint and bugger off.

 

If someone continually wastes your time, do a search on the number if you are a member of a bad date list. I don't keep numbers of clients but I do put the no shows, WOTS in my phone and I also do a search on the bad date list before booking a client. If they are in there, it's a no go. I won't waste my time or compromise my safety with someone who does this.

 

BP can work for you but YOU have to be in control. The biggest thing is to trust your instincts because they are always right. If you don't get a good feeling, you are most likely right. The key with that site is you have to make it work for you even though the site has all different types of escorts and rates. Be in control of what you want and it will work for you. However, I will say that you will constantly be sifting through callers but getting that one gem client is often worth it. I've met a few really good clients off of BP. :)

[Guest **l****uz]

Oh yes definitely on here, I like the fact that we can chat, giggle...you know, get a little communication in first!

 

Additional Comments:

And thank you ladies, you've pointed out some very good things, some that have not crossed my mind and some I've actually already encountered. I really appreciate those who took the time to respond to my questions and concerns and hope to chat again soon. Thanks again!!

[fortunateone 156618]

I've got some good regular clients actually by simply replying to what anyone might consider rude or haggling by being firm and straightforward with them. I put hours not just in my ad, but right next to the phone #. You can't not see it. And yet, when the ad gets auto reposted at 12:30am, I do get phone calls at 1 and 2 am. I don't answer them, of course. If someone is calling without reading the hours, I know they are calling without reading my age and stats, and that is the real waste of my time.

 

I also put my stats, age, etc, right under the phone #. These two things help filter out a few callers. It will never filter out all of them, but those guys will find ads anywhere and do the same thing. One site isn't the source of all the bad clients, just as one site isn't the source of all the bad sps.

 

When I started I had a one line newspaper ad, and of course you get a lot of phone calls that don't lead to anything because the caller doesn't have enough info in those ads. You get 50 phone calls in a day, and maybe maybe 5 of them come by. But probably only one or two of those 5 come by a 2nd or 3rd time. Is that a waste of time? Answering 50 phone calls to get 5 appts and 2 regs? I don't think so, and I don't think many people running a business would think that either.

 

If anyone expects that each and every call or enquiry is supposed to lead to an appt, I have a newsflash for them lol.

[xxrandy 101]

Your name is used in part on BP in Winnipeg and is posted multiple times per day. This may cause confusion. You will have to identify yourself clearly as someone else.

[ladyluck 10787]

Your name is used in part on BP in Winnipeg and is posted multiple times per day. This may cause confusion. You will have to identify yourself clearly as someone else.

 

I really don't think it will be a problem. She's Chloe Cruz. The other Chloe is very young. There shouldn't be any confusion on who's who. There are two other Holly's. There was once even a Haily Raye. Pretty damn similar, but didn't cause confusion as way different looks , age, & as well over all appearance. I don't think Chloe Cruz will have an issue.

[manitoba 2758]

Very interesting discussion getting this from the ladies side.

 

I have had some bad luck with the ladies, no call back, and drive across town to the designated spot to call and then no answer etc. I now wonder if I somehow gave off a bad vibe without realizing it to the lady and that is why she bailed.

 

One thing that I always do is read the ads, if it says call between certain hours or to text or not text first then that is what I do. I realize that the ladies have a regular life of the job and perhaps have obligations where they do not want the job to interject ( i.e. they have kids or family obligations).

 

I also read the ad for age and stats, I like a wide range of ages and sizes and sometimes I am in the mood for something particular and that is what I want. Why phone a short young blonde when you are in the mood for a tall mature redhead or the other way around?

 

The ladies can help themselves by putting as much information as is safely possible in the ad. A real picture that shows their body (not necessarily a nude but something that shows the general body size and type) and at least part of the face, height, weight, measurements etc.

 

Three things that matters to me that I seldom see in an ad are breasts (real or implants) smoking and tattoos/piercings. Smoking would be a deal killer if I know about it in advance and few piercings and small tattoos are OK but a full body art is a real turn off for me. As for natural or man-made breasts, I always prefer natural. While liking larger, I would rather have a nice natural B than an artificial D. Other men will have different preferences.

 

I know not everyone reads the ads but you just might save some time or a disgruntled client by putting more information out there.

 

Finally I have found that one always treats a lady like a lady. Be it a professional working woman, waitress, SP or any woman you meet in ordinary life, the small things a gentleman should do for a lady always makes for a better interaction with them.

[DeeperConnection 19567]

It would be nice if bp had an option to buy more letters, I always have to remove half the ad I create due to their letter limit, I would have no problem paying a bit more to not abreviate nearly every word on my ads.

 

I doubt you creeped anyone out if you treat the ladies as you have mentioned. I myself have a made a few rather large slip ups regarding appointments. (Usually due to jotting it down somewhere random and not putting all in one place) and also when I was moving from hotel to temporary rental and again to an apartment. This is something I have been working to fix, to prevent doing so again.

[Toocutee 248]

I'm Tessa new sp, and was wondering and curious about the same things!!! Thanks ladys

[plumbcrawl 457]

 

Funny story: Had a fella book me for 11:30 am, 10mins later book with another SP I know for noon then 5 mins after that booked with another SP for 1pm. Well needless to say within first 30 mins of all this & us comparing the #. I got the first cancellation. He just never confirmed to get address from SP 2 & not sure what happened with SP 3. Guess where he found our ad? Escorts Canada. So my point here is there is going to be drunks, WOT's, texts with questions that are stated in our ad's that haven't bothered to take the time to read. This is when you weed out the bad from the good.

 

 

It seems a little less than discreet to being phoning around to all your friends when someone calls and books...

[ladyluck 10787]

It seems a little less than discreet to being phoning around to all your friends when someone calls and books...

 

Discretion amongst us ladies. We just happened to be mentioning appointments & one had asked me about a certain # because the fella sounded a bit off. Then another I text with daily said she got the same # when I had my appointment canceled. Also forgot to mention he canceled 2 minutes before his appointment with me.

You can call it not being discreet if you'd like. Your entitled to that, I call it smart business & weeding out the Wot'ers. If you don't think we aren't going to watch out for each other when someone is purposely playing games your sadly mistaken. I unfortunately had gotten ready for the appointment. Comparing the # saved at least one gal from having to get ready & run to her incall location which is a far hike for her. He didn't call back for address.

I suppose I can say the same about the PM function here. Who knows what you guys are pm'ing to each other about the ladies. Telling the juicy details would you say that is less then discreet? No, likely not cause your not going to spend your hard earned dollars to go see a girl that provides unsatisfactory service or is a Wot. We as well have lives outside of this & don't need our time wasted. That's exactly what was happening that day. Time wasted.

 

Don't go thinking or making any assumptions that we sit daily with each & every call to compare #'s.

[Guest ***rgi*****9]

Discretion amongst us ladies. We just happened to be mentioning appointments & one had asked me about a certain # because the fella sounded a bit off....

 

Don't go thinking or making any assumptions that we sit daily with each & every call to compare #'s.

 

I wonder if per chance the Sp's have a review of us pooners lol, I actually think it is smart on the Sp's part to be talking about the people who could be a waste of time etc.

 

Keep in mind guys that with more & more Sp's wanting references that it works both ways for them. The good & the bad are usually spoken about in one way or another.

[nelle 2165]

Additional Comments:

It seems a little less than discreet to being phoning around to all your friends when someone calls and books...

mabye certain guys should not book with more than one lady at a time , Our time is just as precious as everyone elses

[manitoba 2758]

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Keep in mind guys that with more & more Sp's wanting references that it works both ways for them. The good & the bad are usually spoken about in one way or another.

 

I'm all in favour of reverences, make it a little hard to get started but quickly separates the time wasters on both sides, yes there are some ladies who are time wasters as well, no shows etc.

[Ry-ry 310]

BP, I imagine, would be as crazy as it is suggested in here. I can't imagine the sheer number of morons that would call. It goes both ways, though--as a hobbyist, it sometimes gets difficult to weed out the legitimate new SP's from the scammers. One could say to just go always with the established SP's--which is best--but speaking personally, there's a bit of a thrill of finding a diamond in the rough, or finding someone new, as well.

[Guest **l****uz]

Your name is used in part on BP in Winnipeg and is posted multiple times per day. This may cause confusion. You will have to identify yourself clearly as someone else.

 

I am Chloe Cruz, I am a couple of years older, different nationality, and not covered in tattoos, NO one should have an issue differentitating me from her, I also am very discreet and do not post my face.

 

Additional Comments:

I know not everyone reads the ads but you just might save some time or a disgruntled client by putting more information out there.

 

Finally I have found that one always treats a lady like a lady. Be it a professional working woman, waitress, SP or any woman you meet in ordinary life, the small things a gentleman should do for a lady always makes for a better interaction with them.

 

I like both of these comments, you are correct in stating, we should probably put more specific information out there, like smoker, or non-smoker.

Thanks for Treating Ladies like Ladies, for sure this is what we all deserve, no matter our profession.

 

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but speaking personally, there's a bit of a thrill of finding a diamond in the rough, or finding someone new, as well.

 

Is it wrong that I think the exact same way about my clients? I hope not, because I absolutely LUV it when I find a 'diamond' and we form a continuous sp/hobbyist relationship!!

[pleasurepal 169]

The above suggestions about speaking with the guy on the phone - don't SP's realize that some guys will not use their cell phones to contact an SP because phone numbers show up on your phone bill? I think SP's lose potential clients by insisting on a prior phone conversation. I think you can weed out the weirdos and WOT by how they express themselves in emails or texts.

[ladyluck 10787]

The above suggestions about speaking with the guy on the phone - don't SP's realize that some guys will not use their cell phones to contact an SP because phone numbers show up on your phone bill? I think SP's lose potential clients by insisting on a prior phone conversation. I think you can weed out the weirdos and WOT by how they express themselves in emails or texts.

 

Only shows up on a phone bill if it's long distance. Don't know what phone service you use but I've never had a call show up on my bill even before I went paperless. Most men use prepayed cell's for seeing sp only phones.

I have to disagree about emails & texts. I stopped texts because 99% were wot's. Only prior clients are allowed to text for appointments as I know they are legit. Emails same thing too. Can get a long winded, tells their description right down to their shoe size & want an appointment for such & such a day & no confirmation call. Hmmm yup those two seem to be working well.

Having a person call you get a sense of their personality as well they can get the same of us in return. How is a SP to know that the person emailing/texting is a man or even legal age. There's young teenagers out there that like to play games.

Please don't start the debate on telling someone they are going to lose potential clients because she wants a phone call. If someone is a serious hobbyist they won't have a problem phoning to confirm & get incall location, something I don't think is proper giving out to someone you've never spoken to. If they don't want to call they are likely clients not worth seeing.

My opinion though, maybe some other ladies will add to how they feel about a phone call & how important it is to them.

[DeeperConnection 19567]

I accidently erased my response so here we go again.....

 

My personal reasons behind requesting a phone call to discuss an encounter are....

 

1. SAFETY. It is hard to determine a person's demeanor over email or text. The person may be drunk, high, rude, ignorant, agressive, a gang banger, someone I know in personal life, creepy, a client I won't see or stopped seeing or even possibly a WIFE or SO of a client attempting to get info or my location to cause problems for me.

 

Anyone can make multiple email accounts and there are free text programs that you can fill the sender number with whatever you choose.

 

Booking through text or email leaves little we can do should someone harm us, especially without a real number.

 

Winnipeg is brutal for no shows/ no cancelation. We have to take measures to not have our time wasted multiple times by same person who can simply create another email.

 

Sadly there are also a few silly immature providers who will book fake appointments through text, I'm assuming they think this may help them get appointments.

 

From personal experience I have reduced the number of no shows no cancel bookings significantly by only booking after speaking to a gentleman over the phone. This helps me to determine if he seems discreet, polite and uncomplicated. It also gives me the chance to ask if he has any questions as I won't discuss rate or services in person.

 

I recieve well over a hundred texts a day (clients/personal etc.) it is time consuming stopping anything I'm doing at the time to text a bunch that would be easily spoken over a quick call and allows me to multitask.

It's also difficult to stay organized when you have gentlemen texting, pming on multiple boards, emails etc. I like getting emails for those with reasonable questions and such, but I can't check my emails and pm's all day for last minute inquires for a visit.

 

I don't take texts all that serious as majority don't intend to actually book or show up. I recieve multiple first contact texts asking my location. If I were to book through text only i would be blowing my discretion, safety and the discretion/safety of the gentlemen who visit me.

 

If you are concerned about phone bill showing numbers you are calling you should definetly invest in a pay as you go hobby phone and keep it at work or somewhere safe.

 

Once I'm familiar with a client, I sometimes allow them to text book. if they need location again, I ask they call to ensure it is them and not a SO asking after snooping through pc history or cell phone.

Discretion is extremely important, especially for those providing incall. I would question the discretion of a location from a sp who will give her location to any text who asks. If she were to cause enough attention to herself with neighbors or police or an SO causing a scene, the police could bust the lady for running a bawdy house, and if you were there when it happened you could also be in trouble.

 

To put it simply we screen our clients a many ways that you wouldn't consider. I am not concerned with missing potential clients that cant meet this simple request for an encounter.

 

many sp's ask for refrences, work info etc. What a lady prefers, to be able to feel comfortable and safe makes for a better experience for both you and herself. There's always a method behind our requested form of contact. I have been very fortunate to not have regretted any encounters I've accepted by using this method and wouldn't be willing to see clients who i haven't spoken to over the phone. Just my 2 cents, hope it helps to appreciate why we may ask this of gentlemen.

 

Additional Comments:

forgot to mention that you can have all your texts stored online by your cell phone provider. I think you need to pay to do it but I could be wrong.This is how parents keep on top of what their children are texting, in cases of needing them for a court order etc. So i would be a tad more paranoid about someone reading your texts word for word then if you are found out for possibly making a call to a sp.

 

and yes we "realize" that we are losing a few potential clients, this is why we screen people.

 

Despite my profession, I'm not interested in being intimate with someone who doesn't first introduce himself with a brief call.

 

Doubtful that there are many circumstances in our life where we can be intimate with another person without speaking to them.

 

Also, wouldn't a gentleman want to be sure he is at least speaking to a woman and not possibly someone who found or stole her phone, or a guy in general for your safety?

What if she was arrested for something related or not, and you were in fact texting with an officer (highly unlikely but still) I doubt you want to be discussing paying for services with someone who isnt the lady you thought you were contacting.

 

you should look out for your safety too.

[fortunateone 156618]

To all of that I would add why is there this need to distance ourselves from actual human contact, when we are talking about intimate services. You can do it all thru technology, but when you don't speak to a real human being, where is the connection supposed to come from.

 

I don't distance myself from potential clients by filtering them thru text or email., We speak, voice to voice, and have a real time conversation, where my attention they can be assured is on them and only on them. That is the only way you can have a phone conversation. texts and emails, well I can be having multiple conversations. It is not reflecting my desire or ability to connect and focus on just the client or potential client.

 

Plus 2hours of texting or 3 days of emailings, is covered with a 5 minute phone call conversation.

[Guest **l****uz]

To all of that I would add why is there this need to distance ourselves from actual human contact, when we are talking about intimate services. You can do it all thru technology, but when you don't speak to a real human being, where is the connection supposed to come from.

 

And that my friends, comes down to the heart of who I am as a person and what types of clients, interactions and time together I'd like to be/have...Thank you Fortunate One.