Guest **l****uz Report post Posted September 6, 2012 I know some independent escorts whom prescreened clients by requiring at least two references of other escorts that the customer had visited before. Aparently it works, at least until your establish a net of regulars. This sounds like a very good idea. And I think starting with places like this site should help to get started as well. :) Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeeperConnection 19567 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 The agencies here have no buisness sense, and they take majority of the cash. There are many friendly pooners whom u can easily weed out from the WOT and creepy guys. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockstar3 100 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 Farmboy hit the nail right on the head.. all these places are rip offs... I totally concur with him on the status of the MPs... I have met some fine SPs there.. and have maintained a long business relationship with one of them.. Nevadas is notorious for taking most of the money from their girls.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious 100 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 I realize this is an old thread, but I have to give my vote to trusted, reviewed independents. I wasted an afternoon in another city "dating" girls. I would order my date and explain over the phone if the girl pictured did not show up... date is over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leighxox 329 Report post Posted March 4, 2013 I personally love being Indy and I'll never go back. Every Angency I've ever worked with in wpg has at one point put me in some crazy position to where they make me feel that Scamming is the only way to work and thats not me because I know Im better than that! I dont need to Mislead or Lie to get quality Clients & its sad that by running it the way they do they end up just creating bad habbits in good sp's. making the girls half to negoiate every date makes every movement an "extra" bc of the misleading Agency and their high fees. it ends up making the whole encounter very robotic. I like to be As forthcoming as possible I dont want some1 leaving feeling used and ripped off! do unto others and life will be much more enjoyable! If the wrong girl shows up be polite to her bc its really not her fault. Agencys will never run outta bussiness so i feel that if ur calling an Agency here in wpg its best not to have any Specific requests unless u want to be disapointed most of the time. Otherwise just find an Indy girl 2 ur liking and cut out the middleman in my opinion! save urself the Hassle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drlove 37204 Report post Posted March 4, 2013 I actually had a couple of positive experiences where the wrong lady showed up. The first was a "bait and switch" with an agency in Toronto. Awhile after that experience, I posted a thread pertaining to it on another board. By that point, the agency was under new management and the new owner offered me a free session, even though he was not at fault! A truly class act all the way. :) Another time, also in Toronto - one of my favorite agencies made an error and sent the wrong lady. It turned out fine since I was planning on seeing her later that week anyway. I ended up seeing her her a lot over the years, and we always joked about how she was "The Mistake Lady"! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
originalashleywpg 496 Report post Posted May 1, 2013 in any case, he should also inform her that her agency has mis-represented her to him and give her a clue as to what a slack job her agency is doing. girls in this position are better off on their own Agreed for sure I had that happen I swiftly left that agency And here I was apologising for their lies. Now I post my own true picture. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood Thomson 553 Report post Posted May 5, 2013 I have only gone through an agency twice as I prefer to work with independent girls as my girlfriend is independent and have never had an issue with dealing with the agency as I always got what I asked for. I have had multiple occasions where the independent is clearly not the girl advertised in the photos or on the ad, stating DD and being a B-Cup at best, bait and switch, and other common problems. If I ran into this issue personally, be it the agency sent the wrong girl, I would let the girl know and contact the agency while both parties were present. This way the problem could be resolved simply. If the agency does not work out, I would simply pay for her transportation, plus some tip money for her time and agree to set her up with someone who would better appreciate her services. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
young60 1118 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 From what I hear , agencies in Winnipeg should be avoided at all costs!! We have many awesome indy girls in thios town , that give fantastic service..bottom line...only see Indy girls..or go to a MP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tylerden 130 Report post Posted June 15, 2013 This is exactly why i'm scared of getting my first escort. I may book a hot blonde, and get something completely different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitoba 2758 Report post Posted June 24, 2013 This is exactly why i'm scared of getting my first escort. I may book a hot blonde, and get something completely different. Read all the recommendations and comments about the SP you pick. This site has a wealth of experience to draw upon. Many of the finer SPs in River City are members here as well. If necessary PM a member and ask specific questions. If you PM first you are much more likely to get a response after asking an intelligent question that shows that you have read what is posted then a simple plea to all to PM me with more info. And remember if a lady is mentioned but not recommended here there are rules that prevent negative reviews, read between the lines and avoid these ladies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winnipegguy48 530 Report post Posted August 6, 2013 Agreed for sure I had that happen I swiftly left that agency And here I was apologising for their lies. Now I post my own true picture. And you are way better looking then your pictures , and we won't get into one of the best SP in the city ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsawinnipeg 313 Report post Posted August 21, 2013 One of the mps in Van charges the client 320 for incalls. The sps are almost all supermodel looks, 20-25, generous services, etc. Independently, they would charge 300-400 per hour easily (high end Van rates). At this mp, they take home 200. You pay for 300/hr service, and may get 200/hr service and attitude simply because that is what she takes home. It can make a difference. I know this is a bit off topic, but I went to a high end MP in Van and the charges were ridiculous just for the MP and on top of that I had to tip the SP full SP charges. I was so pissed. I had a regular high end SP in Van, she always charged me high end rates, but I have never regretted a penny I spent with her. But this MP after I paid over $700 I was rushed through my session and given the kind of customer service I'd expect to get at a BK drive thrw. Never again. The worst part is that when I left I felt guilty for the SP because I knew dam well that the MP was probably going to take a cut from her and so in the end I knew that she really made very very little money from that session, even by cheap Winnipeg standards. That MP is the reason I refuse to go to MP's or get agencies. I like indies, and knowing who and what I am going to get for what I want to spend. Can't do that with agencies. Having said that TO/EB in my experience have not been like that and that is why I have not taken them off my shopping list ;p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper 145 Report post Posted September 10, 2013 I've been at this a long time and as a rule of thumb, will never accept a bait and switch. If I'm a bit unsure about the agency, I often inform the booker right up front "if a different girl other than the lady I have requested shows up, I will send her away with zero compensation, do you understand" Surprisingly, many have said, oh no problem, the "girl in the picture" will show up and then of course they still send a different lady? And act surprised when I'm pissed. Simple, go away, I owe you nothing! I had on one occasion a lady show up and swear up and down she was the same lady in the photos. When I questioned her dimensions she stated that she just got over a pregnancy and had put on a few pounds. Somehow the pregnancy just couldn't explain away the added 6 inches in height LOL. Goodbye! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueintenseneon 100 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Yep. If its not what yiu were looking for. Try again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adamantine Nose 100 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah this has happened to me a couple of times, I always say no. One time the wrong girl turned up, said her friend sent her, I said no thanks sent her on her way. Now I'm looking for her, the wrong girl, she was really cute! Guess I just have to call the other one and request that she doesn't come, send your cute friend haha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tallstudwpg 100 Report post Posted April 21, 2015 Anytime you "order" anything by describing it over the phone you are bound to get somehting other than you expected. Try describing a shirt you see in a store to a friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorface 120 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Hi everyone, Very new here, just reading about this problem, and I have to say on my very first attempt I got a very different suprise when I opened my door. I was very shocked, and had no idea what to do. I shouldn't post negative so I won't but she was aware, I paid, she did come in and talk, and I was just bummed out and she wanted to hang out all night. (party). Not up to snuff, so I asked her to leave, and now I'm once bitten and twice shy.!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted December 5, 2015 Razorface: some advice. Never have anyone you do not know come to your house. Ever. This has been a disaster for many guys in Winnipeg, including me. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78407 Report post Posted December 5, 2015 There is an answer to the increasing amount of bait and switch.... do your research. In my opinion based on my experience most times we have more than an inkling that there is something wrong in these situation before we actually make the booking.... the ad usually scream it.... if it's an agency or an MP location then there are usually cautionary posts and negative reviews on this and other sites.... Cowboy Kenny has probably warned us....and let's face it the ads most likely screamed at us that there was something wrong... unknown lady with no website or reviews with amazing pictures promising every service known to man 24/7 for an amazing rate but operating out of a flea bitten location or only offering outcall... but we book anyway because as we peruse the ads we are lead by our little head and not our big head... it appears our blood circulation at these times might be somewhat restricted. Is there the possibility that there is a diamond out there in the rough...of course...but if do your research you can tease them out of the scam artists and when you find them encourage them to join Lyla and of course post a review. If you do your due diligence and still have a bait and switch situation I would suggest you not follow through either leave or send the lady away and then report it....don't be turned off for having TOFTT ... just report it here and on other sites... if you follow through because your horny and use the logic that while she is not the beautiful lady you saw in the picture she was ok then you simply reward the behavior so why would the people involved change how they operate. Finally in my opinion you should never ever have someone who you cannot verify as reliable and established come to your home... when you do you dramatically increase your personal risk. Anyway that's my rant...lol that's what happens when I can't sleep and am up surfing Lyla when I should be asleep. Just my Opinion 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judo 894 Report post Posted January 8, 2016 I agree with Cinelli - a general rule of thumb for me is NEVER to have someone to your house, even if you know them, stay away from this practice. It's only a lose lose situation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorface 120 Report post Posted January 11, 2016 Hi everybody, Just me and after my first episode, I am afraid to say still nervous. After texting a few ladies, and a few calls, you sure can tell an agency from an independent. Was caught off guard when I got a woman asking what my budget was,,,,? do people actually have a "budget"? Never thought of it that way. I've figured out the fair rates, and would add an honorarium if I felt I was well treated.. Just to get over the shotgun scare of my first encounter. Would like to thank those who post of good exp. as us rookies have to learn somehow. Enjoy the -36 windchill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hugh G Rekshun 630 Report post Posted February 7, 2016 You ask for her rates, she shouldn't be asking "What's your budget?" Red flag, hang-up. It sounds like you were trolling through that snake pit: BP. Start off with ladies who advertise on review boards, and not just this board, and who have good reviews. Also see a k-girl, they are usually top notch, have integrity and professionalism par excellence. Best VFM going. Great for newbs. As of this writing there are four in town. Additional Comments: Hi everybody, Just me and after my first episode, I am afraid to say still nervous. After texting a few ladies, and a few calls, you sure can tell an agency from an independent. Was caught off guard when I got a woman asking what my budget was,,,,? do people actually have a "budget"? Never thought of it that way. I've figured out the fair rates, and would add an honorarium if I felt I was well treated.. Just to get over the shotgun scare of my first encounter. Would like to thank those who post of good exp. as us rookies have to learn somehow. Enjoy the -36 windchill. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judo 894 Report post Posted February 8, 2016 Hi everybody, Just me and after my first episode, I am afraid to say still nervous. After texting a few ladies, and a few calls, you sure can tell an agency from an independent. Was caught off guard when I got a woman asking what my budget was,,,,? do people actually have a "budget"? Never thought of it that way. I've figured out the fair rates, and would add an honorarium if I felt I was well treated.. Just to get over the shotgun scare of my first encounter. Would like to thank those who post of good exp. as us rookies have to learn somehow. Enjoy the -36 windchill. Never negotiate or discuss money, you can politely ask what the donation is and once you have an answer you don't discuss it further - also never have anyone over to your home, this is just asking for trouble... Additional Comments: You ask for her rates, she shouldn't be asking "What's your budget?" Red flag, hang-up. It sounds like you were trolling through that snake pit: BP. Start off with ladies who advertise on review boards, and not just this board, and who have good reviews. Also see a k-girl, they are usually top notch, have integrity and professionalism par excellence. Best VFM going. Great for newbs. As of this writing there are four in town. Additional Comments: Hugh - when you say "k-girl" are you talking about the travelling asians going by the agency name that starts with a "k"? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hugh G Rekshun 630 Report post Posted February 8, 2016 Hugh - when you say "k-girl" are you talking about the travelling asians going by the agency name that starts with a "k"? A k-girl is a young attractive Korean lady who is schooled in the art of SOPAM (standard operating procedure - Asian micro). Korea is noted for producing these kind of high-quality escorts, just like when you think "quality cars" when you hear "Germany" or "good wine" when you hear "France". In Wpg we have two such agencies I know of: VIPOTG and Lorihouse. These agencies sometimes bring in other Orientals ( Japan, China) also schooled in SOPAM but IMHO the k-girls are best. But do see Haruko when she comes in, she's Japanese (j-girl) and is fantastic. TER has a whole forum that discusses k-girls: theeroticreview(dot)com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=113 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites