Why ask me if I am a cop?

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

To those guys that insist on asking if I am a cop, I want you to think about your question. If I was an undercover cop, would I tell you the truth and say Yes? If I was an undercover cop and you wanted me to kill your wife for money, if you asked me if I was a cop, would I tell you the truth? No, of course not, I would lie and say I am not a cop. Touching my breasts would only give you an assault charge if she was a cop.

 

I think you need to realize that if you are worried that your sp is a cop, dont discuss business in public, dont pick her up on the street corner or a hotel lobby. I am not a lawyer, but my understand of the law in Canada is that if you are not soliciting in public, if everything is being conducted behind closed doors in a private place, you are ok.

 

Not sure if others are noticing an increase in these types of questions, but I just have to shake my head. Cops lie all the time, especially those that are undercover.

 

Just incase you are wondering, no I am not a cop, I am not an undercover police officer or any other combination. I am just a sp who works alone, will never work for an agency and trying to makie some money on something I love doing. I only advertise on CERB and will never do a call in public (ie, your car is very public), or in the washroom of your local restaurant etc...

 

Have a great day!

[drlove 37204]

I suspect that some hobbyists are not that well versed when it comes to legalities surrounding the hobby and its ramifications. From what I've heard, there is also some confusion around incalls vs. outcalls, which has the effect of unnerving some participants. (For the record, outcalls are 100% legal, while incalls technically aren't, yet they constitute a grey area when it comes to actual enforcement by LE.) This may all change again, pending the outcome of the Supreme Court decision at some point in the not too distant future.

 

I remember one time many years ago, I was asked if I was a cop by a lady visiting me on an outcall! Go figure... but to reiterate, I feel it comes down to a lack of knowledge and a subsequent attempt at "trying to cover their bases" as it were.

[Phantom 5310]

I think the question comes from watching mostly American TV, where if you are a cop and they ask you have to tell. (Possibly not all states, but this is frequently portrayed in TV.) Unfortunately a lot of what people know comes from TV and since most of our TV shows are from the US, the average joe's knowledge of law is based on theirs. I myself know more about US politics than Canadian. (Hard not too when their elections run about 2 years.)

[fredsmith 5240]

I think Phantom is right, too much TV.

[SamanthaEvans 166767]

I get this question, too, but, like Phantom, I assume it's the influence of US TV. I usually give the guy a link to a description of the laws in Canada, and let it go.

 

Sometimes, I've said, "No, I'm not a cop. But some of my clients are." :icon_lol:

[Phantom 5310]

......Sometimes, I've said, "No, I'm not a cop. But some of my clients are." :icon_lol:

 

Ha Ha. That is awesome! :D

[roamingguy 300292]

I get this question, too, but, like Phantom, I assume it's the influence of US TV. I usually give the guy a link to a description of the laws in Canada, and let it go.

 

Sometimes, I've said, "No, I'm not a cop. But some of my clients are." :icon_lol:

 

Geez, for a laugh, my next encounter I should flash my badge...NO I'M NOT A COP!!! but I am a Peace Officer (some ladies know where I work) who partakes in this lifestyle, completely legally, and I've checked our Code Of Discipline, not breaking any rules there too

But if there is any ladies out there who are cops, maybe we show each other our badges

RG

[StormSeason 137]

Being new, this information is good for me..........if you are correct with what you say, we should be ok. I do like that humor of yours :)

[Guest L**gh M****e]

Which is it? What is it? Who says it?

 

Admirer of, "I won't succumb to mediocrity or a door mat position in life. The alpha males and females are who make the rules up as we go along and shun convention and political correctness."

 

It means you understand that life is about having fun, leading, not following, and realizing that harmless mischief is an end in itself. It's a twinkle in your eye that says, "I get it" and I plan on using that knowledge to my advantage.

 

 

 

 

[Annessa 22743]

for the couple of members that are new to this and whos eyes are opened by what is legal or not, here is a great link to familiar yourself with...which might even change soon if they lift the ban on incalls.

 

Canada is pretty much the opposite of the states....outcalls legal yet incalls or brothels illegal in canada...I've had to lecture friends of mine many a time and reference this link when they thought they were running around being friends with a "criminal" (ie. me) according to US television standards

 

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-212.html

[CristyCurves 169032]

If I may add, I also believe the only form of communication that is private and protected is over the phone. I am fairly certain I am right on this but feel free to chime in if there is more about this I should know-thanks:icon_biggrin:

[LeeRichards 177238]

To those guys that insist on asking if I am a cop, I want you to think about your question. If I was an undercover cop, would I tell you the truth and say Yes? If I was an undercover cop and you wanted me to kill your wife for money, if you asked me if I was a cop, would I tell you the truth? No, of course not, I would lie and say I am not a cop. Touching my breasts would only give you an assault charge if she was a cop.

 

I think you need to realize that if you are worried that your sp is a cop, dont discuss business in public, dont pick her up on the street corner or a hotel lobby. I am not a lawyer, but my understand of the law in Canada is that if you are not soliciting in public, if everything is being conducted behind closed doors in a private place, you are ok.

 

Not sure if others are noticing an increase in these types of questions, but I just have to shake my head. Cops lie all the time, especially those that are undercover.

 

Just incase you are wondering, no I am not a cop, I am not an undercover police officer or any other combination. I am just a sp who works alone, will never work for an agency and trying to makie some money on something I love doing. I only advertise on CERB and will never do a call in public (ie, your car is very public), or in the washroom of your local restaurant etc...

 

Have a great day!

 

If you are a cop Meaghan ..... not that I would ever ask....but if I can come see you would dress like this please ?? ;)

 

[mister_crufty 4891]

Any Fifth Element fans?

 

If anyone asks if you're a cop just say, "Negative. I am a meat popsicle." You'll either get a laugh or confuse the hell out of them. Either way you win.

 

;-)

[mister_crufty 4891]

It's my understanding that selling sex and escorting in Canada is 100% legal and always has been.

 

Providers can choose pay taxes and deduct expenses like advertising, incall locations, condoms, what have you. I understand that many have accountants.

 

I believe there is no reason in this country for any of this to be less than completely above board.

[Jabba 18389]

Oh my goodness - this so reminds me of my youthful hobbying days.

I used to ask all my incall hostesses the same question: "Are you an agent of the police"....ohh, fergodssake!!

 

If they were police, they would never admit it.

It's an incall in CANADA. We're brainwashed by US cop shows.

I've NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER had an issue with LE on incalls. If I did, I would simply clam-up (by law, you have to reveal your ID & Address) and call my lawyer.

[LeeRichards 177238]

If I may add, I also believe the only form of communication that is private and protected is over the phone. I am fairly certain I am right on this but feel free to chime in if there is more about this I should know-thanks:icon_biggrin:

 

Be conscious of the fact there are scanners out there. Authorities perhaps may use them.......... and many people have nothing better to do but sit at home with their scanners and listen to people on their cordless phones, cel phones, police and emergency personnel frequency radios etc etc.... A good old fashioned landline & corded telephone is "safer" barring a wire tap or operator listening ;)

 

I prefer a text because at least initially....the only ones that see it is myself and the one on the other end of the text. What they choose to do with it in the future is out of my control....trust level....but at least nobody is listening :)

[fortunateone 156618]

I think the question comes from watching mostly American TV, where if you are a cop and they ask you have to tell. (Possibly not all states, but this is frequently portrayed in TV.) Unfortunately a lot of what people know comes from TV and since most of our TV shows are from the US, the average joe's knowledge of law is based on theirs. I myself know more about US politics than Canadian. (Hard not too when their elections run about 2 years.)

 

 

It's a big myth that US cops have to tell, or that touching or nudity will prevent charges. I've seen them do all of those things in reality cop show, as well as reports on a US site I visit.

 

Cops can go through with an entire appointment if they want, and use that against the sp if they want, having it all on record.

 

Additional Comments:

If I may add, I also believe the only form of communication that is private and protected is over the phone. I am fairly certain I am right on this but feel free to chime in if there is more about this I should know-thanks:icon_biggrin:

 

 

Also in person, face to face, if you are in a private room. Some sps think they cannot discuss their rates and services in person, so they do that weird thing with leaving the money without touching it. By the time you meet face to face, you can touch the money and confirm session details.

 

I think emails and texts and pms etc are a grey area,. I think that emails are considered, or can be considered, to have an expectation of privacy and do not qualify as public solicitation. I think texts can easily be interpreted as not private or no expectation of privacy, but so could have a cel phone conversation with someone who is clearly not in a private spot.

 

FWIW, I've seen a lot of texts to other people from other people, simply because phones are left out and upright and I can just see it whether invited or not.

 

And regarding the scanners and listening in, yes it is possible of that happening, but that doesn't mean the two on the phone don't still have a reasonable expectation of privacy as they are still not doing it publically. If someone else listens in, they are breaking the law, but the two discussing sp and client are not.

[mrgreen760 37785]

Takes the phrase assume the position to whole new level.....

 

Peace

MG

[piano8950 32577]

I can see why the question sounds quite silly. I read about it on Snopes years ago. But if you think about it for a moment, there are a couple of reasons why even a normally intelligent person may think that this is an important question to ask.

 

I've read people here mention Hollywood a couple of times on this thread. Which is probably true, but I've heard the rumour about a cop requiring to identify themselves by law. Like every other rumour mill that spreads the internet daily, this one is backed up with seemingly convincing reasons why this law exists.

 

Some of you might scoff at the idea that you'd fall for anything like this, but so often I've seen people share stuff on Facebook that if they take a few minutes to research, they would find out are absolutely false. One that is going around these days is a supposed op-ed an Australian doctor wrote about the virtues of Canadians (It was actually written by an American, extolling the virtues of Americans). Or the one about the wife who was cheated on by her husband, and leaves his house with rotting shrimp in the curtains. Or the one where Mars is closer to Earth for one night only. Or the woman who was charged $230 instead of $2.30 for a cookie recipe, for which she decides to enact revenge by releasing the recipe to the world. All these stories are a fabrication in some shape. But these are just a few examples of fake stories that normally intelligent people have fallen for. Hell, I just recently realized the vast difference in what I believed to be extremely reckless sexual behavior, and acceptable practices.

 

So while I do roll my eyes whenever I hear yet another person give me some "fact", its just amusing.

 

 

And I guess the second main reason why I don't think this question is completely bonkers is because I still remember the incredible uncertainty and nervousness the first time I saw an MA. I've done some stuff that many people would call insanely dangerous, but this one was the first thing I did that absolutely terrified me, and the legal standpoint was a massive reason. So I spent hours reading on the law, and the MA reviews and this forum and anything I could access. Sometimes scared people to assuage their own fears, in an attempt to convince themselves that what they are doing is safe, will believe almost anything. Even a bizarre internet rumour.

 

Anyway, just a few thoughts on why anyone would ask that question.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Thanks everyone for your input.

 

Meaghan

[northoe 100]

I always thought the question "Are you a cop?" (the answer being "no" 99.99% of the time) should be followed with the request "Prove it". So at least you'll get a nice crotch rub or a wet french kiss before they throw you in the can.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Thanks. My point is, if I was a cop, I will not tell you I am. Even if I show you my tits, feel your crotch, whatever, it does not prove I am not a cop.

 

I still remember a guy sitting in his car outside my house. Parked there for a while and I went and asked him what he was doing. He said he was an undercover cop doing surveillance. I didn't buy it, because an undercover cop is not going to admit this. It would blow his cover. I ended up calling the police, and they sent a squad car over and it turned out he was doing surveillance, but as a thief. He had been breaking into peoples houses after watching their movements.

 

The cops contacted me and thanked me for reporting him. Just goes to show you how people will accept what someone tells them as the truth even though the truth does not make any sense.

[MightyPen 67414]

Looks like it's time for a refresher on the law, courtesy of Breaking Bad. According to this extraordinarily skinny would-be meth buyer, "if you ask a cop if he's a cop, he's, like, obligated to tell you. It's in the Constitution." [of America].

 

But make sure you ask it, like, official.

 

Let's see how that works out for Badger.

 

 

(I'll seize any opportunity to post a clip from the best tv show ever made!)

[northoe 100]

Hi Meaghan, I wonder if any of our fellow cerbies have met a female cop that showed her tits or rubbed your crotch while working undercover busting johns?

[Phaedrus 209521]

I still remember a guy sitting in his car outside my house. Parked there for a while and I went and asked him what he was doing. He said he was an undercover cop doing surveillance. I didn't buy it, because an undercover cop is not going to admit this. It would blow his cover. I ended up calling the police, and they sent a squad car over and it turned out he was doing surveillance, but as a thief. He had been breaking into peoples houses after watching their movements.

 

A friend of mine had the opposite... bona fide undercover cops sitting on his drive while conducting surveillance of something or other. But their uniformed counterparts got in touch with him first to ask permission to use his driveway for the purpose.