Dances by half hour / hour?

[Holden 903]

Anyone here get dances by the half hour / hour (as opposed to per song)? What do dances typically charge? Do you get a better deal than paying per song?

[Mister T 45020]

Some of the clubs have flat fees posted (Pigales and Barefax did at least last time i went, not sure about the other clubs). You can get a half hour for 200$ and an hour for 300$. I used that a long while ago with dancers i knew well; we just set a timer on one of our cell phone, so no worries about counting songs.

 

I'll also refer you to this thread, which has an interesting post by our very own Bridgette, so hopefully it'll help ....

[Bridgette 10998]

What do dances typically charge? Do you get a better deal than paying per song?

 

This generally varies by club (some don't cut song lengths, others cut them at 3.5 minutes, others at 4, etc.) and, to a greater extent, by dancer. Some dancers will offer you more of a "deal" than others, so unless there is a posted price (like at Pigale and Barefax as mistert mentioned), you'll just have to work it out with her. Still, even at clubs with a posted price, you'll encounter girls charging more or less for various reasons. Actually, some girls may not even offer a block of time and simply prefer to charge by song. Personally, I prefer it (for the reasons outlined in the post mistert linked to), but not all dancers do!

 

Now, whether you get a "deal" in terms of amount of time for money largely depends on the length of songs at that club. You can always ask the DJ, though IME clubs tend to cut them in the range of 3.5-4.5 minutes. In an hour, that's 13-17 songs or $260-$340 when paying by song, so let that be your guide, so to speak.

 

Of course, a "deal" is also incredibly subjective... More bang for your buck is often synonymous with a dirtier dance, but it can mean different things for different people, like getting undivided attention, spending time with an in-demand dancer, feeling unrushed, not having to worry about being overcharged or losing count of songs, getting a less repetitive experience because the dancer knows how much time she has to work with, having a more intimate dance since there's time to get to know each other's likes, etc., etc.

 

So, as with everything in the club, YMMV!

 

I'd always recommend getting a lap dance or two by song before committing to a block of time with a dancer, just so you know you're on the same page and will enjoy yourself.

[Holden 903]

Thanks for the feedback!

[cgnex 1616]

I almost always go for a block of time. Counting songs should be very difficult if you have good chemistry with a dancer. Time eliminates hard feelings over song counts that don't reconcile, and djs who short shift songs.

 

My objective is for a better overall experience rather than to get a deal but I have had dancers offer a deal on extended visits

[Old Dog 179138]

It probably works best on a slower day with a higher dancer to customer ratio.

 

I don't know about you, but for me an SC is like being a kid in a candy store... every way I look there is something that catches my eye... and unless you have a specific dancer with whom you have a developed rapport, it's so much fun taking a dance or two from all of the beautiful naked ladies who catch your eye!!!

[Bridgette 10998]

It probably works best on a slower day with a higher dancer to customer ratio.

 

This is a very good point! If there aren't many dancers, the few that are there will have to go up on stage often (and the DJ probably won't let them skip when the roster is that sparse), so it may not even be possible to spend a block of time together based on your timing.

 

Personally, I always like to start a block of time right after I get off stage since I know it'll be a long while before my next time up there. However, dancers usually have a general idea of how long until they're up on stage next (and can always check with the DJ to be sure), so it can still work otherwise. It can also be fun to splice a block of time in half to allow for a stage break since the stage dance heats things up in a different way!

[woot10 218]

I was recently offered $100 for a 15-minute block of time. I figured that with 3ish-minute songs that was just about breaking even, so I opted for the per-song rate in case I didn't have good chemistry with the dancer.

 

-W10

[whiteman 14028]

I was recently offered $100 for a 15-minute block of time. I figured that with 3ish-minute songs that was just about breaking even, so I opted for the per-song rate in case I didn't have good chemistry with the dancer.

 

-W10

And if you think it's hard to keep track of songs, it's more difficult to keep track of time! Most guys these days don't wear digital watches, so they don't have a stopwatch or countdown timer; and even if they did, what if they forget to set it? Also if you go with a block time option, if you don't get along with the dancer, then you're stuck with her for the whole time period.

[Bridgette 10998]

And if you think it's hard to keep track of songs, it's more difficult to keep track of time! Most guys these days don't wear digital watches, so they don't have a stopwatch or countdown timer; and even if they did, what if they forget to set it? Also if you go with a block time option, if you don't get along with the dancer, then you're stuck with her for the whole time period.

 

Most cell phones have timer/alarm options, and mine has yet to let me down!

[Mister T 45020]

However, dancers usually have a general idea of how long until they're up on stage next (and can always check with the DJ to be sure), so it can still work otherwise. It can also be fun to splice a block of time in half to allow for a stage break since the stage dance heats things up in a different way!

 

Splices can indeed be fun to do heat things up. Many of the dancers i saw checked with the DJ to confirm when they'd be on, so things can work out well that way. Easy to pause the timer then and restart it.

[geemingyu 100]

The block of time is a good option if you have developed a really good rapport with the dancer. It's always good to take the time to do that before. Buying them a drink and chatting them up to see what chemistry is there first is a good idea before deciding on a private dance.

[whiteman 14028]

The block of time is a good option if you have developed a really good rapport with the dancer. It's always good to take the time to do that before. Buying them a drink and chatting them up to see what chemistry is there first is a good idea before deciding on a private dance.

I'm wondering if the dancers are up for block time, after the first dance has already started? The client may initially take it song-by-song, but then as he realizes that he's got chemistry with the dancer, want to switch over to block time? I know I've had girls offer me block time after I've already had dances with her, so would the client also be able to suggest this thing?

[Holden 903]

I was in Las Vegas last month and in the club that I was at (Spearmint Rhino), it's $20 per dance at your table, or $100 for 15 minutes / $200 for 30 minutes in the CR. The dancers definitely encourage you to go back to the CR so you are getting and paying for more dances.

 

I wondered why more dancers here don't encourage you to get dances by block of time as a way to get you to get more dances.

[Bridgette 10998]

I'm wondering if the dancers are up for block time, after the first dance has already started? The client may initially take it song-by-song, but then as he realizes that he's got chemistry with the dancer, want to switch over to block time? I know I've had girls offer me block time after I've already had dances with her, so would the client also be able to suggest this thing?

 

I've had a few clients suggest or ask about doing a block of time instead of going song by song. I have no qualms about the suggestion coming from their end as long as they are fair about it. Like, as long as you don't ask for a long block of time for a very low price, I think no reasonable dancer would take it badly.

 

I wondered why more dancers here don't encourage you to get dances by block of time as a way to get you to get more dances.

 

In my experience, it's not an overly popular option. For one thing, the majority of clubs don't actually have VIP rooms to go to where it looks like a different experience. Because of that, many dancers simply don't know about it, and neither do many patrons. I find many patrons can be a bit apprehensive and worry over getting ripped off or perhaps not enjoying the experience and feeling like they wasted $x, which leads me to not bring it up unless I feel there's a strong rapport there. It's also a bit tricky to orchestrate with stage rotations as you don't really want to interrupt someone you've never danced for before.

[Lovetheladies 4042]

I love the block of time option! I don't have to count, no interruptions during the dance ("wanna keep going?"), and there is no awkward discussion at the end. We both know it was $X for Y time. I wish it was more common.

[BigPoppa 127]

I was in Las Vegas last month and in the club that I was at (Spearmint Rhino), it's $20 per dance at your table, or $100 for 15 minutes / $200 for 30 minutes in the CR. The dancers definitely encourage you to go back to the CR so you are getting and paying for more dances.

 

I wondered why more dancers here don't encourage you to get dances by block of time as a way to get you to get more dances.

 

Very skeptical. It seems mathematics has been thrown from the window. I'd rather pay 20 per song than 100 for 15 or 200 for half. Thats a pure rip off. Average song ranges 3-4 minutes giving you 7-8 songs per half. you wanna pay 200 whereas you could have spent 140? or even worse you wanna spend 150 where you could have spent 60-80? Call me cheap perhaps...but the point of making these block times is to maximize your money not take a net loss.

[Bridgette 10998]

It seems mathematics has been thrown from the window. I'd rather pay 20 per song than 100 for 15 or 200 for half. Thats a pure rip off.

 

Yes and no. The thing with Vegas and other American clubs is that they have actual VIP rooms, so you're paying more for the experience of having a different/private room and often a host or even waitress as well. Sometimes there are even different (more relaxed) rules in VIP that there aren't in regular lap dances.

 

If you're just after lap dances, it could certainly be viewed as a "rip off" since you're not getting as much dance time for your money, but it's just a different experience in Vegas and clubs with VIP, so it's important to consider it as such.

[Holden 903]

Very skeptical. It seems mathematics has been thrown from the window. I'd rather pay 20 per song than 100 for 15 or 200 for half.

 

Yes, me too. That's why I didn't get dances in the private VIP room. But some people prefer paying extra money for the privacy of the VIP room, as opposed to paying $20 per song at your table.

[JackJP 150]

I've tried the pay per hour at Pigales. Cost was $400 for the hour paid to the manager in advance (sign says $300/hr but apparently there is a $100 fee for the private booth). Manager holds the money until the hour is up and then pays the girl. He directs you to the booth and comes back in an hour. Guess this way both parties are protected from being scammed.

 

Price is steep and I only ever tried it with a stripper I had previously had the company of in the champagne room and knew 1 hour would be well worth it.

 

In hindsight $400/hr could have nabbed me a high-end escort ... you live you learn.

 

I enjoyed the fact there was no counting or mis-counting of songs or getting scammed with paying for a full song when she only started half-way through a song.

[Mister T 45020]

I've tried the pay per hour at Pigales. Cost was $400 for the hour paid to the manager in advance (sign says $300/hr but apparently there is a $100 fee for the private booth). Manager holds the money until the hour is up and then pays the girl. He directs you to the booth and comes back in an hour. Guess this way both parties are protected from being scammed.

 

Price is steep and I only ever tried it with a stripper I had previously had the company of in the champagne room and knew 1 hour would be well worth it.

 

In hindsight $400/hr could have nabbed me a high-end escort ... you live you learn.

 

I enjoyed the fact there was no counting or mis-counting of songs or getting scammed with paying for a full song when she only started half-way through a song.

 

That is correct IF you use the private booths (the extra 100$ for the booth, i was told, takes the dancer away from stage rotation, or at least postpones it, and you are supposed to get priority service from the bar staff). I'm not sure if they are still there, but they had the private room fees (half and full hour) on the walls of those rooms themselves when i tried it years ago.

 

I agree, with what you are saying, It can be interesting as far as SC go in those aspects.

 

The 300$-only fee for an hour in a regular CR downstairs applies.