Cowboy kenny 50799 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Guys, I don't want to come off preachy or holier than thow but it seems lately a common concern that's been expressed to me from a number of Providers, is guys asking for deals or reduced rates, from a ladies posted rate. First off, it's not likely to endear her to your cause, because well it's pretty much an insult, in most cases I'm sure it's not meant as one, but think about it. You want to see a provider based on what you've seen and heard so clearly she appeals to you and you've gone to the trouble of checking out her website or profile and know what she's all about, but you want her to charge you less. How would you feel if your boss came up to you and said you're doing a great job, everyone around the office thinks you're great and we really appreciate the effort you put forward, but we can't pay you for tomorrow... would you mind coming in early though ? Pretty insulting, isn't it ? It's been said time and time again,this hobby is a choice and most certainly a luxury, if you want to see a lady who's beyond your normal price range that you can afford, then plan for it, save up, set a budget. If you really want to meet her and spend time with her, that's the best way to do it. We're actually pretty lucky here, there's a wide variety of providers who range in various affordable price ranges, while some may have a tributes higher than the norm there is usually a reason and they wouldn't be charging anything beyond what the market can bear. I'm not going to make the comparison to cars, wines or other luxury items, because it would be like comparing apples to oranges. The services these ladies provide are incomparable. If you do save up and see to a lady who is in a price range higher than you're used to paying, don't be shy to share with her in your correspondence that you've been saving up and looking forward to the encounter, that is more likely to endear her to you much more than asking for a discount and hey who knows, it might even earn you some brownie points ;) knowing that you saved up for the opportunity to meet. 43 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest c**io**m7 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 I'm with you on it CK...and can see how it can be a turn-off or an insult. You know what might help? (At least from my point of view...and I may be a minority), but, all-inclusive disclosure advertising without up-selling. I personally would love to see development of industry standards for terms such as gfe and pse. When looking for a courtesan, I don't think/care much about it but, when looking for escort services, the unknowns and confusion brought on by "not so straight forward advertising" will inherently encourage negotiating. PLEASE NOTE: I am generalizing and not referring to the lovely ladies who do put all their cards on the table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy kenny 50799 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 I hear you curiousm7, most guys are turned off by a la carte menus and upsells, and I think you'll find that most of the ladies here are aware of that and for that reason offer all inclusive rates, or if premiums are charged for specialty services like Greeek, fetishes they are upfront about the fact that there are additional charges. Usually it's the newer providers, who aren't even here on CERB but advertise on other directories that get you in the door with the low rate and then once your pants are down the price goes up. This also happens a lot when their "manager" posts the ads and answers the texts, often without the lady knowing what's been discussed or agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neebleton 2940 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 In my view, one of the huge upsides of the internet in terms of the provision of sex work is that much of the information about providers and what services those providers actually provide is readily and publicly available, either via ads, reviews, or through interactions with the SP his/herself. This prevents any sort of surprise and minimizes the need for a negotiation of fees because the pricing is transparent and available beforehand so you can make an informed decision. To give an example in a different industry, I wouldn't haggle with my dentist about his prices, but I absolutely would decline to get elective surgery if I didn't think it was worth the price he was asking. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Negotiating, a nice word for it, more like haggling is the ultimate insult. A lady gives of herself in the most intimate interpersonal way providing a much needed escape for us gentlemen The value of the escape and companionship the ladies provide far exceeds any donation the lady would ask for. The ladies deserve respect and appreciation from us. Haggling isn't showing respect and is never called for, it's just an insult RG 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolf Knight 29667 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Seriously, this happens, people try to negotiate? So I'm honoured that an amazingly beautiful woman is allowing me to enjoy her company and other people are haggling? Give me a break. If you even have to ask the price then you can't afford it! Grow up guys. Thanks for calling them out Cowboy. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest c**io**m7 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 For the negotiators out there...this is sound advice. Do your research and, if you don't like what you find out...move on. In my view, one of the huge upsides of the internet in terms of the provision of sex work is that much of the information about providers and what services those providers actually provide is readily and publicly available, either via ads, reviews, or through interactions with the SP his/herself. This prevents any sort of surprise and minimizes the need for a negotiation of fees because the pricing is transparent and available beforehand so you can make an informed decision. To give an example in a different industry, I wouldn't haggle with my dentist about his prices, but I absolutely would decline to get elective surgery if I didn't think it was worth the price he was asking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 While it annoys me to be sure, I try not to flip out when guys try to negotiate, especially if I've never spoken to them before. We have to remember, not everyone comes from the West where it's generally frowned upon to haggle--in some countries it's considered insulting NOT to haggle. If they continue after I've said, "sorry, my rate is non-negotiable" then forget it. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 For the Gent's that have been a frequent visitor, thank you for your support! BUT this does not leave a door open to say" ohhh baby I have been coming here for while now, can I pay $$ less then normal ?" Because I do tend to surprise my longterm clients and frequent visitors with a surprise gift of a lower rate or extra time, as a surprise gift of appreciation, but if you ask for it, seemingly feeling entitled to a discount, you most certainly will be looked over on the days that I feel like being extra generous! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsaMassage 54318 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Have to say most of the guys that I have had that unfortunate situation of either wanting a discount or see me today pay you next time (lol) is been through other sites where I advertise... But as we have amazing and lovely gentlemen in CERB, every rule has its exceptions... Most providers here I belive somehow always give back somehow, myslef from time to time offer discounted rates not only for frequet visitors but to everyone...to perhaps give a chance for those that may not be able to afford or for those who may think is too expensive, I give the chance for them to come try out and find out what they are paying for.. And show that is all worth.... :) funny story, very little comes from running those special rates, those who have already met me do not care and most of the time even if I happen to give a discount... They give the complete donation... So like in everything there is only a bad few apples, but that doesn't mean everyone is like that! I am very grateful for the gentlemen I have encounter and to be part of a community like CERB! 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks for posting this CK. And what's even worse? Now people you could call once in a while regular asks for a session but doesn't have the money and will pay another time? Excuse me? Have we met? Once the answer is no I'm told that basically this is goodbye. I will take a goodbye and never see that person again than being asked that. So insulting..I'm sure if I were that stupid to do that, I would never be compensated. I wasn't born yesterday. What a great way to make someone feel so uncomfortable. If a person can't afford this hobby, don't embarrass yourself and ask that! I know, I know I don't have to tell 95% of guys here this but this is what it is coming down to lately. This is my job and although I enjoy it, I still have bills to pay. No money, no honey.... Regards from a professional provider.. My name isn't Leon's or The Brick. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aimtoplease1 1839 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 For the record I do not try to negotiate...it is insulting. Something I noticed last week that does not help this matter is a MA cerb. member had 2 ads...one on cerb. & one on BP the same day...the ad on BP was cheaper than the one cerb. The impression this gives me is that the MA thinks the guys on cerb. are willing to pay more so why not take advantage. Just wondering what everyone else thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 For the Gent's that have been a frequent visitor' date=' thank you for your support! BUT this does not leave a door open to say" ohhh baby I have been coming here for while now, can I pay $$ less then normal ?" Because I do tend to surprise my longterm clients and frequent visitors with a surprise gift of a lower rate or extra time, as a surprise gift of appreciation, but if you ask for it, seemingly feeling entitled to a discount, you most certainly will be looked over on the days that I feel like being extra generous![/quote'] With ladies I have repeated with well there is one reason I see them again. I enjoy the companionship and escape they provide. Our relationship (small r relationship) is less an SP/Client relationship and more like two friend getting together again. And while I don't haggle with any lady, how could someone haggle with a lady that they have an existing relationship with. For me ladies I see again find one change...the encounters get longer and the tip and gift a little bigger. And the companionship the ladies provide always appreciated RG 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 Negotiating = Not cool Well I guess there will be a pretty happy salesperson the next time I buy a car. Peace MG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites