A bbbj talk.

[Jabba 18389]

Please do not post here.

 

How cum we can't post here, but you can?....kidding - just being a pain in the ass:icon_lol:

But, seriously, back to the subject line: "BBBJ Talk". Is it possible to talk with a cock in your mouth?

[Guest a**4*]

I like bbbj but it would not matter if she did not offer this it's the person i am going to see

[LuxeMulvari 65764]

Peachy, I you want to be a safe gfe go ahead. I've been in the industry for a few years, have NEVER done a bbbj, and do more than fine. Yes i've had some backlash against it, even been pressured during appointments. I've received verbal abuse and the like, for not providing it. So i'm not going to lie to you and tell you its all peaches an cream being a safe gfe, some people feel entitled to certain services from sp's, we should just do what they want because they are the customer and they want it, so you should give it to them.

 

However,all hope is not lost. On restructuring my business, i found something interesting.As I prefer to meet with clients who want to spend time with ME, not so much as the services i provide, i found that clients who want to connect on a a deeper level aren't too concerned with menu so much as experience and what kind of connection you can provide.

 

In my case i like to provide a whole enriching meal instead of just one main appetizer, and i enjoy the company of gents who appreciate this about me. There are many gents out there who subscribe to the same school of thought.

 

Your health is the most important thing, and I'm tired of hearing the same song by sp's saying they want to provide all safe services but can't for loss of business. Yes you will lose business, but you will gain a different client base who appreciate a lady who cares enough about both parties health enough to protect herself.

 

Your clients that genuinely care for you and your well being will stick by you. They others, well.......

[d***o01 306]

After reading the thread about someone in this regoin offering bbfs,i have very reserved thoughts now of bbbj no matter how much i enjoy it

dingo01

[toklat77 4616]

Peachy, I you want to be a safe gfe go ahead. I've been in the industry for a few years, have NEVER done a bbbj, and do more than fine. Yes i've had some backlash against it, even been pressured during appointments. I've received verbal abuse and the like, for not providing it. So i'm not going to lie to you and tell you its all peaches an cream being a safe gfe, some people feel entitled to certain services from sp's, we should just do what they want because they are the customer and they want it, so you should give it to them.

 

However,all hope is not lost. On restructuring my business, i found something interesting.As I prefer to meet with clients who want to spend time with ME, not so much as the services i provide, i found that clients who want to connect on a a deeper level aren't too concerned with menu so much as experience and what kind of connection you can provide.

 

In my case i like to provide a whole enriching meal instead of just one main appetizer, and i enjoy the company of gents who appreciate this about me. There are many gents out there who subscribe to the same school of thought.

 

Your health is the most important thing, and I'm tired of hearing the same song by sp's saying they want to provide all safe services but can't for loss of business. Yes you will lose business, but you will gain a different client base who appreciate a lady who cares enough about both parties health enough to protect herself.

 

Your clients that genuinely care for you and your well being will stick by you. They others, well.......

 

I think this whole issue is a matter of one's health. A lot of folks believe that BBBJ's are fairly safe and that is not necessarily true, the same with DATY. If a SP sees several clients each month and provides BBBJ for each of them it will be only a matter of time before she will catch something and may not even know she has and will pass something on. This is indeed a controversial topic and probably always will be, but the bottom line is we don't live in a STD free world and really no one knows who has been with whom, or where they have travelled on this planet, etc. I strongly feel that SP's shouldn't feel pressured to provide the service as they are lovely ladies who should be treated with love, respect and kindness and most of all safety!

 

My two cents.

[Luckyme 41401]

I have voted, Peachy. I would like to stress that for me, choosing a particular lady to see is not solely dependent on whether she provides bbbj or not. Much as I prefer it to cbj, I also consider her overall look, personality, attitude, quality of service etc. before seeing her.

 

If it happens that I have enjoyed the whole experience, I'll have no hesitation to repeat and she will become a regular of mine. With a regular, it even weighs less if she does bbbj or not (or changes back to cbj from bbbj). I go to see her because I enjoy the companionship, the friendship, the sport outings, the lunches or dinners etc. I will even help her move just to be close to her and to lend a helping hand. She will become essentially a dear friend of mine. As such, to stop seeing her will be the last thing I will do if she chooses to protect herself by taking precautionary measures.

[Guest criz250]

I do like bbbj, but as many of the other gents here say, it's not a deal maker/breaker for me!

[Luke 287]

BBBJ or CBJ - both are fantastic !!!

[silverhorns 219]

I think Luximulvari said it perfectly.

 

The quality of time spent is just as important as the services offered.

 

As a senior citizen who needs some encouragement in the sexual department also has respect for the partner at home. I rely on the SP to make this a safe and comfortable experience.

 

Silverhorns

[Old Dog 179138]

Luxe nailed this on the head. I would much rather see a woman because she is that woman than see someone just for a list of menu items.

 

My favourite providers, and in my mind, the BEST providers are the ones that you NEED to see because they have struck a chord with you... and for the briefest moments in time, you become lost in their world. The sex part? It's great... but if you eliminate a provider JUST because she doesn't offer one of your favourite services, you probably are missing out on 99% of what she is really offering... herself.

 

I guess it is one of the great advantages of being older and having experienced a lot of things in my youth when sex was neither as complicated or dangerous as it is now. Sure, I'd like it if we could all be worry free in the bedroom... or on the couch or the kitchen table or in the backyard... but the new reality is that we can't. We need to feel safe in what we do.

 

But here is the bonus. Knowing that safety is a prime consideration, you can now truly experience an encounter to the fullest, knowing that there will be no debate as to covered or uncovered. It's something that you can remove from your mind, allowing you to focus on the whole experience - and when you do that, you will see what you have been missing all along.

 

You become more engaged in the seduction. You become far more aware of her sensuality. You will stand in awe at the way she moves. You become far more aware of the way your own body reacts. You can lead and be led.... and it all stems from the fact that you KNOW what is expected and when.

 

Just some rambling thoughts...

[Alyssa Staxxx 4412]

Luxe said it perfectly Peachy....

 

Unfortunately, not providing BBBJs does cause many clients nowadays to not want to even meet an SP from the jump...however, there are many more clients who will support this and prefer to see ladies who practice safer sex.

 

The more educated people get the easier it will be to get back to a place where the luxury companionship offered and the safe pleasures provided as a whole are no longer reduced to whether a single act is performed or not.

 

Its your comfort, health and safety that are the issue...financially, I hope the support for safer sex practices, will soon be on the rise...make no mistake...the clients are there and they are the ones you want in the end.

[Guest blue***el]

BBBJ puts me in a difficult situation. On the one hand I enjoy it a lot, and on the other hand, I think about the health issues that may come up. At the end of the day I really don't care if a SP offers it or not. I enjoy the companionship way more than the sex activities that we engage in.

[rovan47 2267]

I'm more for the time spent with the lady not whether she offers bbbj or cbj. I actually respect a provider more for being safe it means she takes her safety seriously and that of her clients.

[Wolf Knight 29667]

Well BBBJ vs CBJ has never factored into any choices that I have made so far truthfully I personally could care less. For me my decision is made based on intellectual attaction. Since finding CERB I constantly read posts and get drawn to certain SP's based on their posts and its only after reading their posts that I become attracted and decided to visit their profiles.

 

On my first visit to an SP I did not have a BJ at all I was too drawn to other aspects of my SP "experience" and I don't feel like I missed out on anything. I pity clients that choose to define their encounters in terms of acts because they really do miss out on the true beauty of their "experience". I have to admit that maybe my perspective was impacted by the fact that I listened when a experienced hobbiests told me, "forget the acts, focus on the experience and the acts will take care of themselves".

 

Bottom line is, if you are a quality SP who takes real pride in the "experience" you provide then clients will seek you out. Based on my experience here at CERB Peachy, you'll be just fine. :)

[Guest **n****er]

I get confused over the hard distinction in "safe" as it relates to BBBJ and DATY. My inexperience is probably to blame, but I would think that BBBJ and DATY would be viewed in the same light...but the more I read here the more I see BBBJ is viewed as more risky than DATY. I can't figure out why.

 

To the question at hand...to me...I get zero out of cbj and would much rather do other stuff if that was my option. I'm not a FS kind of guy (weird I know) so other things play an even more important role in the encounter I would seek - like having nice feet.

 

Do people actually agree with this statement?

 

Toklat77

If a SP sees several clients each month and provides BBBJ for each of them it will be only a matter of time before she will catch something and may not even know she has and will pass something on.

 

Didn't see anybody question it and caught my eye.

[LuxeMulvari 65764]

very interesting topic;)

[whiteman 14028]

BBBJ or CBJ - both are fantastic !!!

Actually, I can't agree with that at all. If it's a choice between CBJ and an HJ, then I'll choose the HJ. I can't feel anything through a raincoat, but that's also why I prefer massage over escort.

[spud271 47779]

Much like whiteman, I'd rather have a hand job than cbj. I have a hard enough time cumming and there is no chance of the happening with a raincoat on the caber, so I'd pick a hand job over cbj any day!

[LeeRichards 177238]

Although I do have a preference it would in no shape or form affect whether I visit a lady or not. Actually in all my visits I can't remember it ever once even being discussed.

 

If you want to put a rubber mask on to kiss me then we may have a problem !! ha ;)

[Guest N***he**Ont**y]

I have yet to have met up with a lady who has offered menu up @ the start of a session. It would be a real turn off for me and I doubt that I would see that lady again. It is the interaction between my self and the lady that I am interested in and the encounter that develops that I am interested in.

[louis007 135]

To me the interaction with the lady is more important than Bbbj or cbj , the intensity of the kissing usually makes it or brakes it for me but i prefer a good bbbj for sure ......

[PistolPete 61421]

As I'm reading this thread in my hotel room down south away of vacation. This topic comes up just about every year (BBBJ) I would like to think, firstly and most importantly that everyone gets themselves tested regularly without fail if you participate regularly in the hobby.

 

Secondly it is the 'control' of the service provider of what she is 'providing' not ever to be forced into providing a service because of what? supply and demand ? Everyone has their choices in this lifestyle, and no one should ever pressured into doing something they do not want to do.

 

When I contact a provider the only question I ever ask, if she allows DFK never the topic of CBJ or BBBJ, as I get older I look for the sensuality,erotic play,the GFE experience the hugging,chatting the love making, as I say most times "I'm not about wham bam thank-you mam"

 

For me it is the "COMPANIONSHIP" regardless if it is a BBBJ or CBJ

[Guest]

Although I do have a preference it would in no shape or form affect whether I visit a lady or not. Actually in all my visits I can't remember it ever once even being discussed.

 

If you want to put a rubber mask on to kiss me then we may have a problem !! ha ;)

 

The day I show up in the picture below is the day I quite. Unless that's what your into, big smile.

 

[cat 262460]

I get confused over the hard distinction in "safe" as it relates to BBBJ and DATY. My inexperience is probably to blame, but I would think that BBBJ and DATY would be viewed in the same light...but the more I read here the more I see BBBJ is viewed as more risky than DATY. I can't figure out why.

 

I understand the confusion as both have risk. I feel that because of the increased sexual partners that an SP has, her risk increases exponentially. Myself as an example, my target is to see 1 client a day/5 days a week. Thats 260 encounters a year. Now most of my clients are repeats but I'm not naive enough to believe that I am the only provider they see so if 20 of them see a high volume provider each month (let's assume 100 clients/mth) once a month it increases my exposure to over 2000 people per month or 24 000 people per year. Those numbers are very scary to me. I can't calculate the odds of a client because it would vary for each man but if they actually thought about the number of people a provider is exposed to, I think it would have a sobering effect especially if they only see ladies who offer bbbj as in Ottawa those providers are much busier..

 

To the question at hand...to me...I get zero out of cbj and would much rather do other stuff if that was my option. I'm not a FS kind of guy (weird I know) so other things play an even more important role in the encounter I would seek - like having nice feet.

 

I also understand that some men have issues with condoms being used during oral but in 25 years I have never had anyone have an actual issue with it unless they have an ED issue. I can get a condom on a man without him even knowing it's there and have new clients stop me during FS to check if I've put it one on after coitus is underway. This has led me to believe that it's a mental block not a physical issue at hand.

 

I've never been comfortable with unprotected anything but Canadian men are brutal when it comes to insisting on it. I offered it in '08 out of financial necessity but no longer put it on the menu. It just isn't worth it to me. Uncovered oral is something I do when I'm so connected with a partner that I have complete trust in them and in the relationship we have. I'm not a risk taker, I don't play the stock market, russian roulette or go to the casino. Playing the odds I've listed above just doesn't seem like a prudent move on either a business or personal level. This is suppose to fun and in my world, fun isn't accompanied by sleepless nights full of worry, a trip to the doctor or having to tell you significant other you have infected them with something that may impact their health...

 

cat

[mrgreen760 37785]

I think this is a bit like loose lips sink ships or what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, one can poll all they want but the reality is it's become more prevalent, offered more often and requested more often in the last 2-3 years. This might be because of new players, providers and johns alike who have a different attitude about the bbbj issue.

 

I also think it is a bit of a YMMV kind of thing and those who don't include it or advertise it specifically as a menu option want to have the ultimate choice of providing it or not.

 

But I've seen reviews and recommendations that specifically state bbbj being provided then read the ad for the provider and see it is specifically not offered.

 

In the end who really knows for sure.

 

Peace

MG