paytonl 100 Report post Posted April 24, 2013 Hi there, my name is Payton and I'm brand new to escorting. I was just wondering if other escorts had any tips and also if clients had tips on what they like their SP to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drhot69 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 You are quite young but seem determined to make a good go of it. If you composed your own copy for your website, your sincerity and sophistication shines through......for 18!? I have a little trouble believing you are 18; experience has taught me women in this business just about always lie about their age. Hell, ALL women lie about their age. I will assume you are otherwise honest, and not a fly-by-night hit-and-run independent. The city is overrun with rip-offs being advertised on BP who want to scoop up the cash...and dash. Safety first. Before you get in too deep and have a bad experience, if you have any doubt about your ability to take precautions against clients, talk to a lot of experienced SPs first and get all the info about general safety and safety in Winnipeg. Especially for outcalls. I guess you want the hotel traffic but what about personal residences? (less common for outcalls but it happens). The traveling SPs who visit Winnipeg regularly have a wealth of knowledge in this regard, and I can PM you with contacts if you like. Get to know who the bad tricks are from other SPs, and the SP-only area of most boards like this. Flaking. DON'T YOU EVER..... This is a huge problem, both ways, in this city. From my perspective, the flake rate by local SPs is at least 60%. Yes, Winnipeg has more than its fair share of male DBs who cancel at the last minute, no-show, and just plain jerk you around. Smile through it all professionally, be reliable and never flake, and with time you'll build up a stable of good regulars and be able to laugh. But I, and a lot of other busy men, post reviews on the other board that crucify flaking SPs with white-hot iron stakes. :aggressif025: Reputation: RIP Condoms. Always for FS. Besides the obvious health issues we all have pounded into our heads, you'll get more respect if you never let a guy talk you into BBFS. Walk out on him if he asks twice. The pics aren't coming through on your website. '....clients had tips on what they like their SP to do". Oh man, you ARE green! You really want to ask that question? Sexual positions. Be open-minded and willing to experiment. I have met a few girls who for some reason only allow one position, or forbid some basic common position (God knows why). Pooners happily sink these SPs with scathing reviews. Decide what you are willing to do, for now. You will get a LOT of crazy requests that may freak you out. I dunno', some young SPs impress me with the twisted shit that turns them on and they want the client to ask of them, and maybe you're one too. At the entry level, are you willing to offer LFK, DFK, FS, DATY, BBBJ, digits, DT, 69, Russian, (hey, if you already like the language...:icon_smile:) and wrap all that up into the ever-popular GFE experience? What will be your restrictions? Too many of these and your first reviews on the boards will kill you. What will be your menu, and it's best to put it out there to prevent a misunderstanding with potentially bad consequences. Then turning up the heat a bit, CIM, COF, COB, tea-bagging and the controversial Greek. You can usually package all that together with GFE to market as PSE, for a few dollars more. It's advisable to start off with a sophisticated set of sexy lingerie, inviting the gentleman to suggest his preferences at booking. Personally I like Agent Provocateur, but most guys have never heard of that line and will be happy with La Senza or Victoria's Secret. Stiletto heels. A must for every lady. Turning up the heat, you will get costume and role play requests, and at some point will have to consider building a wardrobe of police uniforms, latex outfits, nurses' outfits, the overdone schoolgirl look, and so on. BDSM??? You tell me. You willing to do this? Cuz I have a SP for you to consult! Entry level is client bondage restraint/tie-up and tease. He may provide the restraints on outcalls, but you can always purchase under-the-bed portable restraints cheap from dhgate.com. If you get into tie-up teasing games, consider the "hot tea" BBBJ, ice, feather boas, and dripping candles. Whips and other pain infliction is the next step up. If he wants to be tied up and brought to the edge again and again for hours on end, have a glass of wine handy for yourself. No, a bottle. Massage? White girls don't do this very much and don't do it well. A niche market for you to consider if you are willing to study it. Guys like to be pampered. :bowdown: Bring oil and powder. Guys with live-in SOs don't like oil. Advertising. EC, which owns this site, will give you the best cred, but it's not a free pass. We pooners know there are rip-offs there too. Get paid advertiser membership at all the top boards. You already blew that on the other board. Make amends there. 3somes. Come on, be honest, you want to experiment with girl-on-girl and try 3somes if you haven't already. And that's going beyond the the university-dorm-got-drunk-and-tried-it-with-a-GF-once stuff. Do you have a reliable GF who also wants to get into the biz? It's a popular male fantasy. If you get a positive rep, you'll get requests to do 3somes with ladies who usually also have a positive rep. You'll make new girlfriends who can give you orgasms! ...and one more thing. Get professional boudoir photos and refresh them periodically. We've all seen WAY too many iPhone photos taken of bathroom mirrors. OK, chew on this post for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Find an established SP in the area that will act as a surrogate house mom. Every new provider should listen to the sage advice of someone that has been in the business for a while! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Welcome to CERB. Excellent points and a great start. You are so young and I really hope you have someone helping you with some of the things sp's already know due to experience. I won't elaborate here, but if you ever need to pm me and ask specific questions, please feel free to. There is a wealth of great ladies on this board that I know will also help you if you ask. Good luck. Great website, but yes, the pics won't download so you might want to fix that. xoxo Meaghan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drhot69 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Find an established SP in the area that will act as a surrogate house mom. Every new provider should listen to the sage advice of someone that has been in the business for a while! Good advice, Old Dog. The difficulty is the Winnipeg scene has a dearth of truly professional SPs. My concern for Payton is the other local SPs may feel threatened by competition from a young newcomer. So with that in mind here are some suggestions (but they don't come with any guarantee): Although I have never seen her myself, Soleil may fit the bill best for the role of mentor. A very experienced SP with a solid rep, a good website, no complaints about flaking, and, BONUS, likely the leading local BDSM expert (not my cuppa', but different strokes for different folks). She has her own niche market of clients, so I don't think she will feel threatened by a newcomer. And she was talking about retiring. Kayla (she-devil), whom I have also never seen, merits the same description, but I am not sure she is as deep into the BDSM stuff. She has no proclaimed plans to retire. Byrnn, formally Holland, and whom I HAVE seen, may be a choice. She's really hard to get a hold of and more often than not cancels on people. Her reliability has declined considerably over the years. But a few years ago, she was the best and delivered service second to none. I can't think of any other local SPs with a website, so after that the professionalism gets a little uneven. I don't think Emily (deeper connection) has a website, but to be fair has a very good rep with a solid majority of pooners. She has only been in the biz a few years herself and has less experience than the previous three I mentioned. I'll stop there. I don't participate in the local scene anymore, preferring the visitors. I think other local pooners could jump in at this point and offer suggestions. Additional Comments: Something I forgot to say was: "Don't post fake pics" Too late. You already did. :spank: We've been played for chumps, boys and girls, at least two of the pics in her album are fake, on a Google Image search. :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rileydaniels 1901 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 I can email you some information that has helped me alot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeeperConnection 19567 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Not having a website should hardly be considered unprofessional. If a lady is doing fine without one or isn't comfortable having one or prefers a telephone introduction etc. where she can answer any questions someone may have, perhaps it should not be viewed "unprofessional." I prefer a telephone conversation, as one can't claim to have not read or seen something on a website. I prefer simplicity. Asking a gentlemen if he has any questions regarding rates or services etc. has worked well for me. Not to mention due to a few indiscrete individuals, I have had my personal identity smeared all over the net. No need to ad a website to all that. Also I have been independent for just over 14 months, not a few years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted May 25, 2013 Don't be fooled by men who threaten to "crucify" an SP by writing negative reviews. You don't need reviews to survive in this world. Provide honest service and they'll come back, reviews or not. 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
layla93 110 Report post Posted May 27, 2013 I love posts like this! i learn so much. & thanks old dog, thats good advice. starting to fall in love with cerb, you guys are pretty cool :P:P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piano8950 32577 Report post Posted May 27, 2013 I can't give any better advice than many over here can. So just remember, be safe, have fun, and welcome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest D***el B***e Report post Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) There's no use having me offering her tips and advice, I'm on the other side of the fence. In as much as I think it can be a fun, pleasurable, and rewarding business, there is also a dark side we don't often hear about, and that's where you don't want to go. Edited May 28, 2013 by D***el B***e didn't like what I wrote ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted May 28, 2013 Can I ask some of you sage ladies a favor. Take this girl under your wings and show her the ropes. There's no use having me offering her tips and advice, I'm on the other side of the fence. In as much as I think it can be a fun, pleasurable, and rewarding business, there is also a dark side we don't often hear about, and that's where you don't want to go. Paytonl has not posted since this post. So, not sure what anyone can do. Maybe she has decided not to pursue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeeperConnection 19567 Report post Posted May 28, 2013 I believe it is illegal to coach a person into becoming an escort. I'm unsure of the legal wording for this. Besides, even if lady knows everything about the trade, many will not learn it or have the same results as the lady giving the advice. I would read cerb beginning to end, as I did. There is an abundant amount of experience that can be learned from doing so. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest D***el B***e Report post Posted May 28, 2013 I believe it is illegal to coach a person into becoming an escort. I'm unsure of the legal wording for this. Besides, even if lady knows everything about the trade, many will not learn it or have the same results as the lady giving the advice. I would read cerb beginning to end, as I did. There is an abundant amount of experience that can be learned from doing so. thanks, never realized what I had written! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites