Helping with an escort's ads, etc.

[newandnervous 297]

Is it illegal for someone to manage an escorts advertisments, say on BP, and set up appointments for them? Reasoning being, the escort isnt the greatest at those things, but wants to still be an escort.

[Hollywood Thomson 553]

Nope. If that was the case agencies wouldn't be around.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Well, you would be considered an her agent. No different being an agency. Different kettle of fish then being an independent.

 

I would read the thread on plain English laws. Very good information to start.

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1642

 

Additional Comments:

Nope. If that was the case agencies wouldn't be around.

 

Agencies are more likely to get busted then independents if they don't know what they are doing. When you have someone "working" for you, it can be a grey area. It is very important to understand the laws completely, and the op might not have any real experience or understanding of the laws.

 

If you are doing the advertising and answering the phone, she would be considered working for you and as such.....

[Hollywood Thomson 553]

Well, you would be considered an her agent. No different being an agency. Different kettle of fish then being an independent.

 

I would read the thread on plain English laws. Very good information to start.

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1642

 

Additional Comments:

 

 

Agencies are more likely to get busted then independents if they don't know what they are doing. When you have someone "working" for you, it can be a grey area. It is very important to understand the laws completely, and the op might not have any real experience or understanding of the laws.

 

If you are doing the advertising and answering the phone, she would be considered working for you and as such.....

 

Very true, however, one could also spin it around as he works for her as he is simply doing the reception and advertising and she is the person who makes the official decisions on where to advertise, when to work etc.

 

I will definitely say this, you are very likely to scare clients off if you pick up the phone as they will think that you are the husband, wrong number, a pimp or any other series of things. I would definitely advise requesting text only if this is going to be the case, but if you are her pimp, I am simply going to say get a life.

[MeatBeater 957]

I will definitely say this, you are very likely to scare clients off if you pick up the phone as they will think that you are the husband, wrong number, a pimp or any other series of things. I would definitely advise requesting text only if this is going to be the case, but if you are her pimp, I am simply going to say get a life.

 

Funny to read this, I emailed a girl from BP yesterday, got a response from what I believed to be a man's name (you never can be sure). Right or not I assumed the worst and did not follow up.

[Hollywood Thomson 553]

Funny to read this, I emailed a girl from BP yesterday, got a response from what I believed to be a man's name (you never can be sure). Right or not I assumed the worst and did not follow up.

 

I for one would never see someone who has a guy pick up the phone. I would assume it is a pimp or worse a fake ad where you are going to get jumped and tased. There has been a lot of that going on in Toronto, so definitely do your research nowadays guys. I am by no means a small guy, very lean 230, but I know that means little to one of those or a knife.

[roamingguy 300292]

Is it illegal for someone to manage an escorts advertisments, say on BP, and set up appointments for them? Reasoning being, the escort isnt the greatest at those things, but wants to still be an escort.

 

Just a couple points. First, what makes you believe escorts aren't the greatest at setting up appointments etc? Yes maybe some escorts may not be good at the business side of being a professional companion, but many are very good at all aspects of running their business. And if they need a manger/agent then they should look for one who is qualified to be one.

Second, there is much more to managing an escort than just setting up appointments. What business qualifications and experience in this profession do you have that would qualify you to be a manager. Just judging from your board handle I would guess you have very little experience in this lifestyle. You are if done properly, the lady's agent representing her. You work for her. She doesn't work for you

Personally I get the impression you think all that is required is answering a phone, and telling a prospective client when the SP is available. I hope you don't think its ok for you to tell the SP when, where and with whom she has to be with. That would make you a pimp, not a manager/agent

My evening rambling

RG

[SamanthaEvans 166766]

I wonder who you think you'll be working for and what kind of business arrangement is best for both of you. How do you hope to find clientele--that is, ladies who want to hand over control of their advertising and schedule?

 

Some women do have agents, secretaries or assistants. Sometimes several ladies share one. Most experienced companions want to be sure that an agent knows the industry very, very well, including the kinds of things to expect from prospective clients, managing special requests and so on. They want to be sure that the agent will represent them accurately and fairly, and that the client is properly screened. That's why most good agents are former companions, themselves.

 

If you think that offering this kind of service is a way to make some money from newer, less-experienced ladies, well, that really is being a pimp.

 

I get a lot of requests for this kind of thing--men who say they want to manage my bookings for me or be my driver and/or personal security staff. In fact, the number of queries I've received from such men has increased significantly since the courts and police relaxed their attention to some aspects of the prostitution laws. I ignore them. I know what I need and who to ask. Someone approaching me, out of the blue, I generally take to be someone who's hoping to use me for his own ends and profit.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

I will add to this.

 

If you are doing it for the money, better think again.

Unless perhaps you think taking half the fee is a good for the lady and yourself. Even then Half the fee means you both have to work 2x's the appointments then otherwise. That is if you are only representing the one lady. But if you have 10 ladies I suppose you will live comfortably, but the one lady now has to work extra appointments to even come close to what you would make off of 10 ladies.

 

If I tried to make a living off the small donation that my ladies offered me as an agent, I would starve. I never agree that the agent should make the same or more than the ladies who work there.

 

There is much much more to this then posting ads and answering phones. Do you have the experience needed to make an informed and safe booking? Can you screen safely? The responsibility of ensuring the ladies safety is paramount...or should be. Time management, people skills, finance balancing, knowledge of the law and a lawyer paid yearly, everything that a business requires.

 

If you feel that security is one thing you will be best at, then you may need to consider this again too.

I only have one bodyguard, that is .....911.

 

Clients that book threw an agency have to be able to trust the agent. You need a good reputation to build that trust. My client come in 2 forms, the hobyiest who books and the ladies I work for. My clients trust me, and know that the ladies are being treated fairly with me. They would not want to book with me if say: I was taking half of the ladies hard earned cash, or if I were a man, or if they never heard of me.

[loneskater 25635]

I thought the op asked about the legal aspect of helping and SP with her business not how to become a pimp? I am reading this and wondering why his thread as suddenly turned into a lecture?

 

4 or 5 years ago, I helped an SP getting some furniture and other things on many occasions. In return she bought me Dinner when we were driving around. She is now my best lady friend. Lately I drove a significant distance to help another lady out with some mechanical stuff. First time she bought me a beer and Dinner second time she couldn't due to schedule. Still I didn't mind cause I did not offer my help expecting something in return. Also lately I helped another lady with electronic stuff. Once again I was provided with beer and Dinner but it was not expected when I offered my help. So does that make me a criminal or someone that abuses SPs???????

 

I have done BP ads for an SP before cause she had no CC do do her ads. In addition on a few occasions when that SP got sick and couldn't worked, I paid her bills. When I saw her for apt, I took off her rate from the money she owes me. The thanks I got was her moving away and try to hide it from me cause she still owes me lots. So WHO IS THE JERK HERE???? This happened before I helped out with mechanical and electronics stuff because I don't judge every lady in this industry to be the same as the bad experience I got. I judge people by who they are not what they do!!!

 

I know there are some ppl that would love nothing better than get some freebies or take money from SPs but we are not all like that. I know the OP did not give much details like what did he expect for helping out but then we can always ask for more details instead of assuming he is up to no good because when we do so then ppl like me who have tons of respect for the ladies in this community and enjoy helping friends get insulted.

 

This board is suppose to be about positivity so lets be positive and assume the op is genuine and wants to help a friend until we get more details that would indicate otherwise!!!

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

I thought the op asked about the legal aspect of helping and SP with her business not how to become a pimp? I am reading this and wondering why his thread as suddenly turned into a lecture?

 

4 or 5 years ago, I helped an SP getting some furniture and other things on many occasions. In return she bought me Dinner when we were driving around. She is now my best lady friend. Lately I drove a significant distance to help another lady out with some mechanical stuff. First time she bought me a beer and Dinner second time she couldn't due to schedule. Still I didn't mind cause I did not offer my help expecting something in return. Also lately I helped another lady with electronic stuff. Once again I was provided with beer and Dinner but it was not expected when I offered my help. So does that make me a criminal or someone that abuses SPs???????

 

I have done BP ads for an SP before cause she had no CC do do her ads. In addition on a few occasions when that SP got sick and couldn't worked, I paid her bills. When I saw her for apt, I took off her rate from the money she owes me. The thanks I got was her moving away and try to hide it from me cause she still owes me lots. So WHO IS THE JERK HERE???? This happened before I helped out with mechanical and electronics stuff because I don't judge every lady in this industry to be the same as the bad experience I got. I judge people by who they are not what they do!!!

 

I know there are some ppl that would love nothing better than get some freebies or take money from SPs but we are not all like that. I know the OP did not give much details like what did he expect for helping out but then we can always ask for more details instead of assuming he is up to no good because when we do so then ppl like me who have tons of respect for the ladies in this community and enjoy helping friends get insulted.

 

This board is suppose to be about positivity so lets be positive and assume the op is genuine and wants to help a friend until we get more details that would indicate otherwise!!!

 

The OP is using the words, manage...and setting up appts....

That is an agent. Which is all fine and well. But you would have to assume is making money off of it, as for the confusion if illegal or not. If he was doing it to merely help her, with no fee's attatched, then there would be no worries for the law.

 

I dont think we lectured him, but more like gave him a side of this he may not be thinking. But you are right, let's see if this poster will explain more, as it reads he wants to " manage" her.

 

A man who is going to set up, answer the phones, etc...just leaves a bad tase in the mouth for many ppl including the gent's that would be booking. Which in turn may tarnish any reputaion that she is trying to build for herself.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

The op is very new to the business. Posts indicate has only seen one MA. OP Handle suggests he has no real understanding of the business yet. So, everyone wants to make sure he is in full understanding of what he is planning to undertake.

 

There is a real difference in helping someone out. Awesome to help someone with their mechanical work, or give them a credit card to help their business. Quite another thing though to manage ads, answer phones, do the scheduling. The law would look at someone who is helping out by providing mechanical services vs. actually managing someones business very differently.

 

Just a thought!

[CristyCurves 169032]

Well lets look at both sides of the coin, if he plans on being an agent Meghan's link in her first post covers all the basics and should answer his questions. The other side, if he is as his handle depicts him to be, "new" then perhaps the use of the word "manage" is being misused and just meant as a verb the same as create, write up, post, ect, ect. Perhaps he is just an acquaintance or friend of this escort and just wants to be assured he won't be in any trouble if he helps out and is the author of her ads, ect.:)

[roamingguy 300292]

Loneskater

What you have done, helping ladies out, great...I sincerely mean that, it is great. And I do appreciate your point about CERB being positive. But sometimes some things are posted warranting honest replies, I personally could see no other response to put to his thread than the one I did

In this lifestyle, it is great when you make connections that are more than SP/Client and those great connections should be cherished

But the OP (who btw judging from his handle name and profile has little experience in this field) is posting questions about managing ladies (as opposed to helping a friend) on the assumption they can't manage themselves. And without stating what expertise he has in this field to be a lady's manager. Sorry, that just raises some red flags with me. Sounds like wanting to make easy money, but that is just my opinion.

Anyhow a rambling

RG

[fortunateone 156618]

Is it illegal for someone to manage an escorts advertisments, say on BP, and set up appointments for them? Reasoning being, the escort isnt the greatest at those things, but wants to still be an escort.

 

 

I think she should just go apply at an established agency and see if they will take her on. That way she can see the difference between what she is doing for herself and what they can do for her. Eventually she will figure out what she wants and doesn't want, rather than having someone else decide for her how to market her and who she should be seeing. That is when she'll go back to being independent,

[gabbylaurenxoxo 370]

Loneskater

the OP (who btw judging from his handle name and profile has little experience in this field) is posting questions about managing ladies (as opposed to helping a friend) on the assumption they can't manage themselves. And without stating what expertise he has in this field to be a lady's manager. Sorry, that just raises some red flags with me. Sounds like wanting to make easy money, but that is just my opinion.

 

Mine too!

My immediate thought was - under what influence or motivation is this new SP entering the industry?

 

New here myself, but applied the same etiquette an entrepreneur in any industry would - understanding of regulations and laws, industry etiquitte, marketing strategies, administrative organization, etc. My anticipation is that a professional, independent gal approaches her business in this manner. Not to mention a clear focus and long term goals in mind.

 

Otherwise, starting with an agency is likely best, to gain some industry exposure and general business know-how.

 

Finally, from what I understood, isn't there some implication for the OP if he's receiving compensation (which I don't believe he noted) from the SP - something about living off the avails of prostitution?

 

My own newbie two nickels. :D

 

Gabby

xoxo

[MeatBeater 957]

Finally, from what I understood, isn't there some implication for the OP if he's receiving compensation (which I don't believe he noted) from the SP - something about living off the avails of prostitution?

 

 

 

The OP DID NOT talk about receiving compensation, you are inferring it, which is totally inappropriate. It is what I would call, piling on.

[roamingguy 300292]

Actually in fairness the OP didn't say he would do it for free either. The way he posted his thread leaves a lot of room for inferences.

Personally someone who is a newbie talking about managing (not helping a friend) but managing would lead me to at least infer some sort of compensation

I also can't see a newbie, very inexperienced to this lifestyle having a close enough relationship/friendship to a SP to warrant her handing over the administration of her business to him. Hell I have been involved as a client in this lifestyle for a few years now, made some wonderful connections with ladies, know a thing or two and I don't have the experience/expertise to manage a lady (not that I'm implying I want to), not to mention, well maybe just me, but I don't think in this lifestyle a man should manage a lady.

The piling it on as you suggest might end if the OP came back to the thread he started, so he could clarify and answer questions that came up

RG

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

Mine too!

My immediate thought was - under what influence or motivation is this new SP entering the industry?

 

New here myself, but applied the same etiquette an entrepreneur in any industry would - understanding of regulations and laws, industry etiquitte, marketing strategies, administrative organization, etc. My anticipation is that a professional, independent gal approaches her business in this manner. Not to mention a clear focus and long term goals in mind.

 

Otherwise, starting with an agency is likely best, to gain some industry exposure and general business know-how.

 

Finally, from what I understood, isn't there some implication for the OP if he's receiving compensation (which I don't believe he noted) from the SP - something about living off the avails of prostitution?

 

My own newbie two nickels. :D

 

Gabby

xoxo

 

 

Living off the avails....this can include almost any Agency Representative, good or bad:(

 

However, as it has been explained to me from my own business lawyer, he has advised me, that because my fee from the ladies who hire me, are so low that my business and life expenses would not be covered if I only had that income to support me, that it would be difficult to pronounce that I LIVE OFF the avails.

 

As I stated in my original post on this thread, that I would starve if I depended on my ladies.

 

If you(OP) are taking this opportunity to get a lower preferred rate, from this SP...well I have nothing good to say about that!

 

Essentially, I can prove that the small donation that the ladies provide, there is no way I could keep my business afloat with just their income!

 

So back to the OP, what are your intentions?

If you are collecting half the fee, you possibly can look as "living off the avails...or procure of funds" I would have to think that someone so interested in this topic would have logged in by now, it has been 3 days?? And yet no post to explain???

 

As stated by Meaghan Mcleod, do your research!