dread pirate roberts 4036 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 I'm curious about the use of this term. When an SP says, for example, "greek" ( or for that matter "no greek") pretty much all of us understand. We have a shared understanding, and hobbyists are confident that they know exactly what message the SP was intending to convey. I wonder whether that's true of "PSE". Personally I am never sure what is meant by the term, and I don't think that is because there is a shared understanding out there of which I happen to be ignorant (though of course that is what I would think if I were ignorant of it, I suppose). In any case - Ladies, what message do you understand to be conveyed by an SP saying "porn star experience"? Gentlemen, what message do you think you are receiving when you hear "porn star experience"? (Please note this is not intended as a criticism of any SP for either using or not using this term. I'm just curious.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fixednbroken 814 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 to me, I always assume that the step to turn a GFE into PSE is coming on the face/anywhere & plus swallowing... other than that, I would assume that if someone advertises as PornStarExperience, she's going to have some good skills & go at it like a mink on steroids...! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 I think its best to never assume anything about a service and who provides it as we are all different but here is a link to what cerb has posted concerning these terms. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsManda 25686 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 I cant speak for everyone.. But I tend to go by the Cerb definition, its a style of service. Where GFE tends to be sensual, pampering time spent, PSE should be more intense, wild, like spending time with a pornstar :p What makes it tricky is that everyone likes different poem, and so has their own opinion of what PSE should entail.. I just think of it as a style of service, whats included will vary on the situation. For some COF is PSE, for others its Greek or BDSM, it depends really on the situation 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoddyThomas 2746 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 As a fairly new hobbyist I assume it is a level of service. I agree it differs for everyone. The same can be said for GFE. All my girlfriends were different and liked different things, so it is clearly ambiguous. Variety is the spice of life! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blatoblang 310 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 For me, when I say pse I think "lets skip the cuddle and get right at er'" lol. I don't like to make assumptions so if I have a special request then I am sure to clarify that before I set up the date. But I usually find that when someone is advertising as a pse they are pretty open to a grand finale like a cof or a cim but like I said, if that's what I want I alway ask before hand to make sure we are on the same page. Additional Comments: For me, when I say pse I think "lets skip the cuddle and get right at er'" lol. I don't like to make assumptions so if I have a special request then I am sure to clarify that before I set up the date. But I usually find that when someone is advertising as a pse they are pretty open to a grand finale like a cof or a cim but like I said, if that's what I want I alway ask before hand to make sure we are on the same page. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest t****ster***ke Report post Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) i think cristy makes a pretty good point about not assuming anything, because that usually leads to either confusion or disappointment. msmanda's point about people liking different porn is another thought to consider, and i think jacob states fairly accurately what most guys "think" pse entails (ie, less sensual, more hardcore). to cristy's point, you can't assume because a woman offers pse, that she allows cof, etc, or that she's gonna act like the nastiest slut you've ever seen on redtube. what i take from away from seeing that service offered, is that the POSSIBILITY of some of these services is there, and that you can inquire as to whether the sp's limits are truly that of what you see in most pornographic movies. not to say this is an invitation for pm's like, "hey, you take it up the a**?", but any sp who offers pse should probably expect a few inquiries that women who present themselves as the girl next door do not. Edited May 15, 2013 by t****ster***ke typing errors Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Actually Cristy, thank you because I learned something new. I have read the definations of GFE, but guess didn't read the def of PSE. I always assumed it mean cof or cim. Thanks for the clarification 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halifax76 2855 Report post Posted May 16, 2013 Just my personal advice is to always ask the person you are thinking of spending time with for their own definition. Some times the person you you meet up with isn't the person who you have been pre-communicating with. Sometimes that information isn't the same between the provider and agency. I find asking ahead of time helps prevent awkward times during the encounter that would kill the whole moment. As helpful as definitions are... everyone has their own, either Provider or Client. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amelia Fox 9064 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 I never assume anything. Clarification is always benifical.. Pse to me is cim, swallowing, greek and pegging. Although every ladies services are different I think the four services stated are all considered pse. Gfe is more cuddling, sensual and slower paced I believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dread pirate roberts 4036 Report post Posted May 22, 2013 Thank you, everyone, for your contributions to this thread. That one should communicate and should not assume is of course good advice. In fact it was the point my questions were aimed at in the first place. I didn't, after all, ask "what does PSE mean?" My questions were what message SPs thought they were conveying if they said it, and what message hobbyists thought they were receiving if they heard it. My guess was that those were not always the same message: the discussion seems to confirm that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites