thick 1 111 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 If you read some of the threads in this section on the legalities of escorting and others complaining of SP only offering 1 sog. It leaves me questioning. If I understand correctly it is legal to be an escort because you are not communicating for the purpose of prostitution, you are charging for your time. If charging for your time makes this legal, than there should never be any complaints of a session ending early. If the girl leaves early she obviously was not charging for her time and therefore is breaking the law. Just my thoughts I would love to hear yours. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135639 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 If I understand correctly it is legal to be an escort because you are not communicating for the purpose of prostitution, you are charging for your time. This info is not correct. In Canada you can not communicate for the purpose of prostitution in A PUBLIC PLACE. You can advertise in newspapers and online as those are not PUBLIC PLACES. You can NOT discuss sex in places like the street, hotel lobby, casino floor, park, beach, etc... but you can discuss sex for money in a hotel room or your own house. You can also be explicit on forums like this as the internet is NOT a public "place". If charging for your time makes this legal, than there should never be any complaints of a session ending early. If the girl leaves early she obviously was not charging for her time and therefore is breaking the law. LOL.. Yeah, you need to read more!! The girls say "charging for time" because they do not know the laws properly and someone has probably told them this is how you get away with something legally (and that is not true). For the most part many of the girls don't know the real laws (they often assume things - like you are doing here)... many threads exist on cerb that cover this topic. Use the search feature and educate yourself. You will be glad you did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 19761 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 LOL.. Yeah, you need to read more!! The girls say "charging for time" because they do not know the laws properly and someone has probably told them this is how you get away with something legally (and that is not true). For the most part many of the girls don't know the real laws (they often assume things - like you are doing here)... I don't really think it just has to do with that... I know the laws and I still would rather charge for my time then for the sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
APower20 400 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 All of the girls I've been with go the full hour (or full whatever I booked), and some stick around for another half hour or so after to shower and talk...while others give me an extra minute or two to finish (Thx Girls!). If you book for longer, you're probably more likely to pay for time rather than just sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veronikahouse 210 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 All of the girls I've been with go the full hour (or full whatever I booked), and some stick around for another half hour or so after to shower and talk...while others give me an extra minute or two to finish (Thx Girls!). I am not a clock watcher and I mention that often in my ads. Very often my time stretches beyond the hour...as you said with showers for the men, talking, and having some munchies to replenish our bodies. However, having said that there is a fine line between not being a clock watcher and having people take advantage of the extra time. I would never rush someone out but please....do not hang around for an hour after our time together.....we do have things we have to do even if we do not have another appointment that day. Kisses, V:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 Well said sweetheart! That is what I like about you..to the point, always accommodating,polite, and very sexy! ;) You are correct Veronica.. I have heard from SP's there are guys that just won't leave after their time frame, they feel it is there right to hang out longer...so when time is up guys, let the ladies do their thing... I am not a clock watcher and I mention that often in my ads. Very often my time stretches beyond the hour...as you said with showers for the men, talking, and having some munchies to replenish our bodies. However, having said that there is a fine line between not being a clock watcher and having people take advantage of the extra time. I would never rush someone out but please....do not hang around for an hour after our time together.....we do have things we have to do even if we do not have another appointment that day. Kisses, V:) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 I would never rush someone out but please....do not hang around for an hour after our time together.....we do have things we have to do even if we do not have another appointment that day. Totally agree.....if anything I find myself being the clock watcher and have many times been told to relax and not worry about the clock so much. Must be some German somewhere in the family tree..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 10, 2009 As I understand. Incalls are in the grey area. Just like agencies. If the police are called. They have to show up and investigate the situation. Which is a big waste of time. If you are not selling drugs and are not making a disturbance. If you keep your nose clean and you have good naughbours. You should be fine. The sex industry is a large bussness. There are many diferent levels in this industry. I was simply stating in the extra ball thread. That an escort is a paid compainion. We all know what the men are using it for. Wink, wink. If you are advertising for an hour service. You should give an hour service. If you are giving a service based on shots alone. You should advertise that. So girls who like to give a good service are called and not you. But they will not advertise that because it's like putting on your resume. That you are lazy and you do half the work. On the other side of this. I have also had clients disrespect my time. Just face it. If I am trying my best to make you explode and you do not. By the end of the sesson. It's not going to happen anytime soon. So eiter just accept it, or pay for an exra hour. It's funny how our bodys work. That's just my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 10, 2009 I was thinking. That I came off a little harsh, in my thread. I will re put it. The sex industry is a big business. If you advertise correctly and put that you charge per shot. You will still get business and no one will be angry. Just my opinion, again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135639 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 The really good escorts would not rip you off for time (and will usually give you a extra few minutes and not look like they want to run as soon as the deed is done). If you pay for an hour you would have her attention for the hour. I should have clarified that in my first post. Some ladies do not offer MSOG but will hang out and enjoy time with you for sure. And yes, a shot on goal in the 1/2 hour or 1 hour time frame can not be guaranteed with all men. It's not fair to expect the lady to stick around longer unpaid if this is the case. I was more focused on the legal aspects with his question. Particularly.. why the ladies usually comment "Payment is for time and companionship only" in the USA this may help you as prostitution is illegal in most areas but here in Canada is you say "Payment is for time and companionship only" it does not help the escort legally in any way ... in fact in some cities such as Winnipeg and Calgary (Windsor, Barrie, etc...) the city has by-laws for "escorts" (not prostitutes - just for people who charge for time "companionship" as the cities can not legally license prostitution) so posting "Payment is for time and companionship only" in cities like Winnipeg will get you a big fat by-law ticket that you can not beat by appeal since you used this phrase! NOTE: By-Law tickets however have NO criminal charge or record and no chance of jail time - but if you get set up and end up discussing SEX in say the Hotel lobby you will get nailed with a criminal charge for communicating in public for the purpose of prostitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F***s*t 145 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 Most of the ladies I've seen are not clock watching. I really believe much of it is chemistry between the parties. If the session is going so so, it likely won't last the hour. 75% of the equasion depends on the Male. YMMV but much of it depends on how you carry yourself, attitude, cleanliness and respect guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cordsboy 184 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 Excellent thread, I'm of the opinion that while an hour has been paid for it is crucial to establish some of the ground rules before meeting, at the very least at the start of the meeting. One cannot assume that the services offered to one client will automatically be give to another. I find that by explaining to the SP what I am looking for and allowing her to let me know if she can accommodate I do not get disappointed and even more important that the SP is not put into an awkward position (no pun intended) during the meeting. While I agree that with some SP's "YMMV" is very accurate; I find that you will always be treated well if you are polite, kind and treat her with respect. I'm a one SP guy and find that by establishing a rapport with one SP goes a long way and in the end we both end up having a great time when we meet. My 2 cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachg 388 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 This is an excellent topic for discussion...thru my experiences I have found that most of the SP's I have made some sort of connection with, will usually let the time extend because we get lost in the moment and lose track of time. When this happens, I always leave a very generous tip as my way of saying thanks. The other ladies, and I have found it to be a low percentage, play by the clock which is definately within their rights, but which of the above ladies will I repeat with? It makes for a very easy decision the next time I am looking for a little companionship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungStud 468 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 This is an excellent topic for discussion...thru my experiences I have found that most of the SP's I have made some sort of connection with, will usually let the time extend because we get lost in the moment and lose track of time. When this happens, I always leave a very generous tip as my way of saying thanks. The other ladies, and I have found it to be a low percentage, play by the clock which is definately within their rights, but which of the above ladies will I repeat with? It makes for a very easy decision the next time I am looking for a little companionship. Exactly. And it's often the same generous women who are the most diplomatic with clients have over-stayed their welcome. I know from talking to a lot of escorts over the years that trying to graciously wrap up a session when a guy has more than over-extended his time (for whatever reason - often but not always - non-completion - i.e. no shots on goal) can be a challenge even for the top-end escorts who have outstanding inter-personal and people management skills. Let's make their lives easier and try to be good clients at all times, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted August 10, 2009 I was thinking. That I came off a little harsh, in my thread. I will re put it. The sex industry is a big business. If you advertise correctly and put that you charge per shot. You will still get business and no one will be angry. Just my opinion, again. Wasn't harsh and totally valid. There are some out there that either have a street-walker mentality or find the business of selling sex for money to be unsavoury. So when a guy is done, the job for them is over, time be damned. They got their money and just want it to be finished. And maybe that's not a problem with some of their customers. I would never make a 30 min appt with a SP...regardless if it was my first time with her or a repeat. I'd like to get to know the girl at least a little bit and if it was a repeat, it's because I like their personality so a half hour is rude (my personal feeling). But there's enough guys that like the 30 min visits, drop their drawers as soon as they're in the door, blow their load in 5 mins and leave. I think there might be a perception that if you say you charge per shot and not per hour, you're openly saying that sex will take place and thus you're breaking the law. Even though many escort pages say time spent is for companionship, etc., yet here's the list of 'code' words that you'll get from me (i.e BBBJ, Greek)...and then a definition of the code right next to the word ;) But whatever...an hour is an hour and that's that. I know that when I can't finish and that 60 min mark is coming up, I just give up. No sense in torturing the poor girl while my libido plummets knowing that the pressure is on! Pull out, see her off, and jerk off the next morning...what else can you do? If she fucks off early, no conversation is going to make the situation better so no point in fighting it. Complain to the agency (if applicable) and see where that gets you, but no point in arguing with someone that wants to leave about staying. But no repeats there.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious2 323 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 I think there might be a perception that if you say you charge per shot and not per hour, you're openly saying that sex will take place and thus you're breaking the law. Even though many escort pages say time spent is for companionship, etc., yet here's the list of 'code' words that you'll get from me (i.e BBBJ, Greek)...and then a definition of the code right next to the word ;) But whatever...an hour is an hour and that's that. I know that when I can't finish and that 60 min mark is coming up, I just give up. No sense in torturing the poor girl while my libido plummets knowing that the pressure is on! Pull out, see her off, and jerk off the next morning...what else can you do? If she fucks off early, no conversation is going to make the situation better so no point in fighting it. Complain to the agency (if applicable) and see where that gets you, but no point in arguing with someone that wants to leave about staying. But no repeats there.... There's a great legal discussion going on in this thread: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1642 However I agree 100% with your view on time. I think the worst would be if escorts started charging like lawyers (in 0.1 hour or 6 minute intervals). Some guys would like that though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungStud 468 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 If you shop around a bit on the independent web sites you will find options from 20 minutes to two hours and more, all reasonably priced and many with MSOG. So there's lots of choice to match various budgets, schedules and ejaculation abilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 I think the worst would be if escorts started charging like lawyers (in 0.1 hour or 6 minute intervals). Some guys would like that though. Well lawyers cost more, have less charm, are way uglier...but I guess they do fuck you as much. Can you tell I'm divorced? ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thick 1 111 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 Thanks for your comments. I guess I was wrong about some of the legalities but I seem to have opened up a good discussion. I guess it boils down to research. If you are looking for a full hour you need to check reviews. Thanks all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annessa 22743 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 research and proper communication between you and your lucky lady are always the most important. also, its very important for an SP to be politely upfront with you as well...there have been times when a client asks if hes taking too long to leave and I'm in no particular rush so I say, no take your time with shower etc.....however sometimes we have other obligations right after or (gasp! dare I say it.....) other clients and we need the proper time to prepare for everyone just as we have prepared for you to be fair :-) in those cases your SP should always be upfront about time in a polite manner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 I charge for my time, in that if you pay for an hour, you get an hour. I offer MSOG, so it would be stupid for a guy to ask me, "how much to come 3 times". I am not exactly a clock watcher, but I also do not like to be taken advantage of. If a gentleman wants to leave before the hour is up, that is his choice. I have never rushed anyone out the door before their time is up. In 15 years, I have never even had to kick anyone out for poor behaviour, so I consider myself lucky. I have worked with other SPs who's philosphy is "get them in, get them off, get them out". I don't work that way, so the answer to your question is, "yes, if you pay for an hour, you should get an hour. What you do in that hour is between you and the SP - just make it clear if you have to pay extra for MSOG, that's all". :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 11, 2009 movie, or quotation from RAWHIDE...LOL.. :) I have worked with other SPs who's philosphy is "get them in, get them off, get them out". :wink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teched 418 Report post Posted August 13, 2009 movie, or quotation from RAWHIDE...LOL.. :) showing your age here PistolPete! ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grass_Hopper 18263 Report post Posted August 13, 2009 I think clock watchers are the ones who did'nt understand that their job is the most beautiful... If I feel uncomfortable with you, I rather ask you to leave and give you back your money... In revenge, I ask you to respect your time... If you pay me for a full hour, I'm giving you an hour of my time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 13, 2009 movie, or quotation from RAWHIDE...LOL.. :) The lyrics to rawhide are: Move em on (head em up) Head em up (move em up) Move em on (head em up) Rawhide Cut em out (ride em in) Ride em in (cut em out) Cut em out (ride em in) Rawhide Yeah....kinda the same...does that men are cattle? So that would make us cowgirls? :bddog: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
