Incalls or Outcalls?

[cmarine200 100]

Hi

 

New to the scene, I have sp come to my home. What are your thoughts on it.

 

So far tried 4 of them and the only issues with is how to pay for the extra distance. They usually asked for an extra $40.00. Is this fair?

[Horndog66 14104]

"Fair" is whatever you think it is.

 

Whether or not the transportation charge is fair, it's always risky having a SP come to your home, especially some of the shady ones who advertise on the free board. Remember, they now know where you live. You're risking exposure, extortion, robbery, etc. Stick to incalls, and take only your car keys and the amount of money you need - no ID or valuables.

[f158 973]

Excellent advise by Horndog. Also get yourself a cheap pay for use cell phone and use it as you "hobby phone" Pay for it with cash and you are untraceable.

 

May I ask what your rationale is for not going to an incall?

[livenudecats 4072]

If you are new to this hobby NEVER see ladies in your home unless they have stellar reputations backed up by recommenadations from guys that you trust.

Seeing a lady you know nothing about in your home has disaster potential especially if something goes sideways.

 

As for the extra charge, that is normal if it is an SP that also maintains an incall. If the SP has an incall to maintain, then coming to you costs her extra money in transportation cost, especially if she has a driver. As well if she comes to see you that takes extra time away from her "office" so even though you are only paying her for 1 hour if it takes her 30 minutes to get to you and then home, you are actually tying her up for 2 hours.

SP's that don't maintain an incall likely shouldn't charge more on top of their normal rate as they don't have the monthly overhead associated with an incall and the transportation, driver, etc. is jsut part of her costs of doing business.

 

Cheers

[throckmortonpruddygo 2025]

I agree. Don't invite them to your home.

[lacky204 100]

Rent a hotel room if you really need an incall, but it's like the crack commandments, never bring them where you lay your head.

[safetyfirstguy 370]

Its seems like it might be nice and convenient with the home thing, but what about the "fear" of being seen entering a incall. I'm guessing lots of the bp girls might be a bit sketchy. What kind of risks are associated with heading to an incall?

[cmarine200 100]

It was just convenient I guess.

 

Works out perfectly for timing and stuff. I guess I will change my schedule. It seems like a bad idea, and only waiting for something bad to happen.

[DeeperConnection 19567]

I am a backpa e girl so please don't throw us in one negative stereotype. There are ways to research a lady that many men either don't want to bother or have not been informed of. I would start by asking the discretion level of the incall. I intentionally located myself in a smaller refurbished condo block that is just off downtown and with free parking.

 

Some gentlemen may know people and bail out on an appointment out of fear of running into someone they know who lives there. It also isn't too hard to simply say you are their visiting a coworker or aunt or neice etc. Highrises have their advantages as people casually come and go all day etc.

 

I also like that I am close enough to a fast food place and a general pharmacy that if a gentlemen is seriously concerned, he may wish to park at either and walk the 3-4 mins to my block.

 

If you do go to a ladies incall, consider discretion factors for yourself such as did you do all communications through text only. This i hate say is careless on the providers part as she should at least have you call before you given the address to confirm you are male, not wasted etc. and to protect her discretion. Her operating in a discreet manner, will most certainly affect the discretion of you as well. Also if a neighbor is around you may not want to address the lady by her sp name and simply act like you should be there until behind closed door of her space.

 

When leaving try not to say in a loud voice... "Thank You it was so nice to meet you, or escort talk as leaving. This could get overheard by neighbors etc.

 

Some ways to screen the quality of a ladies incall could be questions like "do you provide clean shower facilities and towels should I wish to have a quick shower? You may ask about pets, and definetly make aware of certain allergies you may suffer from such as perfume or lube or oils etc.And if you are ultra concerned about being seen entering or leaving a call, simply ask her of the probability percentage hall way neighbors etc, I always ask a gentlemen to call or text once parked but still in car. That way i can receive him without him lurking outside and possibly running into a neighbor or looking unusual. Your discretion depends on her discretion in my opinion. If she requires you to call from a intersection close to her place, call from corner. She does to dramatically reduce the number of people who get the address early and then don't show.

[jsmasters 230]

What are your opinions on outcalls and staying in your vehicle?

Is this something a sp would do?

[DeeperConnection 19567]

sex in your car is illegal. It is considered a public place. I do believe it is against the rules to post anything to do with car dates. I may be mistaken.

[drlove 37204]

I agree. Don't invite them to your home.

 

Let's be reasonable... I feel that's an unfair statement. As long as you see someone reputable, e.g. (the ladies from Cerb) you should have no problems. I've had countless outcalls to my residence over the past 13 years, and only once did I ever have an issue. However, that was only because I called a "no name" agency. I should have known better...

[cinelli 22184]

Never have someone to your home until you have seen them at their home a few times, and know them a bit. I learned the hard way...don't make the same mistake I did. It can land you in a LOT of trouble.

Even a "highly reviewed" SP can have bad day, or you might have some kind of conflict.

 

FWIW I have a good long term relationship with a couple of ladies that come over, I trust them but have known them a long time...10+ years.

 

Additional Comments:

sex in your car is illegal. It is considered a public place. I do believe it is against the rules to post anything to do with car dates. I may be mistaken.

 

Absolutely good advice. Some guys get a big thrill out of it but it's pretty stupid and irresponsible.

 

Sex in car=seizure of car, your name on sex offender registry, John school, divorce, etc.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

I think everyone has to realize, no matter if you do an incall or an outcall, there are risks both ways. I have heard of ladies stealing from clients in their hotel and at their residence. If you are going to be dealing with unknown ladies who have no reputation, no prior recommendations, no history, you are taking a risk, irregardless of whether it is incall or outcall.

 

The point you have to understand, do your research on the lady. Does she have recommendations? Do others say she is reputable? Does she have other options like a website, real pics etc. Is she solid? or is she some new girl with a possible pimp working her.

 

Incalls and outcalls each carry their own risks. If the lady has an incall location in a high end hotel, chances are, she is legit. If her incall is in the basement of a seedy rooming house, well, that's another thing. If she is doing an outcall, does she have a screening method? Or, does she just come out without verifying anything like phone number and name. Is her phone being answered by someone else, so you don't get a chance to actually get to talk to her? I understand those working for an agency generally don't talk to the client. Does the agency have a solid rep? Do they have a website? Are the pics real?

 

You get what you pay for in this business. Understand that. Yes, there are those that will rip you off, bait and switch, rob you and leave 2 minutes after they get their money. However, there are way more ladies that work hard to build up a reputation to show that they legitimate. Stick to cerb ladies and you never go wrong. Especially if you are new to this.

 

And, final point, car calls are ALWAYS ILLEGAL. Don't even think about getting with a lady who offers this. This is a huge red flag. Even if someone offered me $1, 000, 000, I would never do this. Why would any provider want to risk getting arrested? It is never worth the risk.

 

xoxo

[roamingguy 300292]

Seeing as you are a newbie, I would advise against an outcall to your home

But as you gain some more experience in this lifestyle, and start knowing which ladies are reputable, and maybe become a regular with a lady, a trusted lady, an outcall to your home is something you may wish to consider. While my location rules out seeing a lady at my place, there are some ladies I trust so much they could be trusted to hold my wallet, or use my computer etc with no cause for concern on my part

But for now, stick to outcalls to your hotel or incalls to the lady's place

RG

[livenudecats 4072]

What are your opinions on outcalls and staying in your vehicle?

Is this something a sp would do?

 

Now, when I say what I'm about to say please think of a father advising a son or Yoda advising Luke or Mr. Miyagi to the Karate Kid. It may sound harsh but it is meant to shock you into never considerring such a thing.

 

ARE YOU FREAKIN" NUTS! :icon_eek:

 

Never, I mean never do a car date. It is a great way to get busted. Sex in your car on public street is illegal. You will lose your car and end up in John School.

 

Cheers LNC

[steelydan 130]

Very Sound Advise from Roaminguy......Why are some so desperate!!

[Raven Rain 10542]

my post went in the wrong spot

[f158 973]

my post went in the wrong spot

 

That was very naughty of you Raven. To make up for that you should come and give Winnipeg a visit. :boobeyes:

[Guest s*r***a**9]

So if a guy and his wife / girlfriend decide to go park somewhere and get caught, they'd be arrested, their car taken away and the guy sent to John school?

Do the police have a "SP detector" with them?

If a guy gets caught, what would the police do if you say she's your gf?

 

The actual act of having sex in a car is not illegal. You could park inside your garage and have sex in the car. Nothing wrong with that.

Indecent exposure is illegal. So if the general public can see you, you could be arrested. However, if you have tinted windows and a person has to make an effort to see you inside your car (ie they can't see you when they walk down the street but have to physically put their face against the glass to see you) then it's not indecent exposure.

Same idea as if you opened your front room curtains in your house and had sex where someone can see you then you could be charged. However if the person walking by had to get a ladder and look in your bedroom window to see you, then you can't be charged.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

So if a guy and his wife / girlfriend decide to go park somewhere and get caught, they'd be arrested, their car taken away and the guy sent to John school?

Do the police have a "SP detector" with them?

If a guy gets caught, what would the police do if you say she's your gf?

 

The actual act of having sex in a car is not illegal. You could park inside your garage and have sex in the car. Nothing wrong with that.

Indecent exposure is illegal. So if the general public can see you, you could be arrested. However, if you have tinted windows and a person has to make an effort to see you inside your car (ie they can't see you when they walk down the street but have to physically put their face against the glass to see you) then it's not indecent exposure.

Same idea as if you opened your front room curtains in your house and had sex where someone can see you then you could be charged. However if the person walking by had to get a ladder and look in your bedroom window to see you, then you can't be charged.

 

If you tell the police she is your girlfriend, what are you going to say when they ask you her name? DOB, address and other stuff to confirm she is your girlfriend?

 

Indecent exposure is exposing your naked body. If you are caught having sex with anyone in a public place (and this includes your wife), you are charged with committing a lewd act in public. Not a lawyer, but this is my understanding...

[livenudecats 4072]

So if a guy and his wife / girlfriend decide to go park somewhere and get caught, they'd be arrested, their car taken away and the guy sent to John school?

Do the police have a "SP detector" with them?

If a guy gets caught, what would the police do if you say she's your gf?

 

The actual act of having sex in a car is not illegal. You could park inside your garage and have sex in the car.

 

I actually had this happen to me 25 years ago. I was dating my ex-wife and one night we were sitting outside her grandma's house which happened to be in the west end just off Ellice. She's got her head in my lap and suddenly there is a knock on the window and a bright light in my face. It's the cops.:icon_eek: One of her neighbors reported a strange car parked on the street. The cops took her to the back of their car and kept her there while they asked me all kinds of questions such as her full name, her age, DOB, how we met, etc. Then after confirming it with her, they still made her let them into her house just to prove she actually lived there.

The one cop was okay but the other guy was an asshole who gave us a lecture about how he could, if he wanted to, arrest us for public indecency.

So to answer your question, they do have ways of figuring out if she is your Gf or likely an SP or SW.

If you are inside your car inside your garage with the door down then you are right. It would be considered a private place.

Cheers

[DeeperConnection 19567]

Unless you know an sp's full real name, address and age among other questions the police will certainly ask you if they were to find you having sex in your car I would advise not to think you can easily lie to the police with a simple "she is my girlfriend". What if she has a lengthy criminal record or is wanted. Then you just associated yourself with a criminal. Is it really worth the risk to have a quickie in your car?

 

Go have sex somewhere you can fully let loose! I would always turn away any car date request not just because of legalities but let's get real. If I'm going to get my freak on, I want to enjoy it too! not bump my head and knees every 2 seconds on a car trying to be double jointed. Sex can be just sex, good sex or damn awesome, leave your legs shaky sex..... I know which one I prefer!

[roamingguy 300292]

Remember all the police need to arrest you is reasonable grounds

What if the guy is in his fifties and the lady in her twenties, would that look like husband/wife, bf/gf etc to a reasonable person, or more like a SP/Client having a car date to a policeman

Also, any lady doing car dates may already be known to police as a prostitute

Police are well trained in how to question suspects/persons of interest. My guess they are more skilled in questioning than the average SP/Client is in successful evasive answering.

And remember, even if you get arrested, but it never goes to trial, an arrest is part of the record, and the public, your neighbours included, could find out you are either a SP or a guy seeing companions

So no to car dates

Nuff said

RG

[rob spence 1199]

I got caught with an ex girlfrind years ago having sex in a car. The cops came up to the window and told me to leave the area fast. Guess it was my lucky day and we all had a good laugh. I guess the cop enjoyed the view of her on Top LOL

 

But Yes car dates are BAD and illegal.