Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 13, 2009 GFE and PSE seems to mean different things to different people. I am under the impression GFE includes things like kissing and DATY, whereas PSE includes things like CIM, COB, Swallow, BBBJ. I have heard some guys say they believe it also includes no condom for intercouse (like they do in the porns), but I have a hard time believing that SPs who advertise PSE would do that. Also, I see some girls advertising on CL - NO RESTRICTIONS. What do they mean by that. Is intercourse without a condom something people are doing because recently I have been asked if I do that and I can't remember ever been asked that in years past. Being somewhat naive in this department, any feedback would be appreciated.:69: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted August 13, 2009 GFE and PSE seems to mean different things to different people ... Being somewhat naive in this department, any feedback would be appreciated. Yup, it's not about a specific list of services. This may be of interest: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 And for a wider range of opinion: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted August 13, 2009 I see some girls advertising on CL - NO RESTRICTIONS. What do they mean by that. Is intercourse without a condom something people are doing Some of the highly-regarded ladies on Cerb have used the "no restrictions" phrase in their adverts here ... I think you can rest assured that they do not mean BBFS ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 I guess I can be considered GFE and often :69:PSE (without Greek). Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy kenny 50799 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 and I can be considered CBE (cowboy experience) fun to get on and off :) also without greek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariane Valmont 332 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 GFE and PSE seems to mean different things to different people. I am under the impression GFE includes things like kissing and DATY, whereas PSE includes things like CIM, COB, Swallow, BBBJ. I have heard some guys say they believe it also includes no condom for intercouse (like they do in the porns), but I have a hard time believing that SPs who advertise PSE would do that. Also, I see some girls advertising on CL - NO RESTRICTIONS. What do they mean by that. Is intercourse without a condom something people are doing because recently I have been asked if I do that and I can't remember ever been asked that in years past. Being somewhat naive in this department, any feedback would be appreciated.:69: I think everyone has their own definition. :) To me, GFE means a sweet and loving attitude + most of the acronyms, except CIM, greek and COF. PSE means a sexually agressive attitude + most of the acronyms, except french kissing, which is left to the discretion of the provider. No restrictions mean that anything goes as long as it does not put the health of anyone at serious risks (so of course, this mean NO bareback penetration). As for me... I consider myself 100% GFE with a touch of PSE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachg 388 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Ariane..you hit the nail on the head with you interpertation of GFE and PSE. As for me I like the 100% GFE with a touch of PSE. That is the only way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 I am still wondering however, why in the last year I am getting guys who are asking if I can do intercourse without a condom. Apparently there are some providers out there who are doing this, or so that's what they're saying. Like I said, I don't remember being asked this in the past. Again, that is very scary. I wonder why a guy would risk his health to do something like that. As for the girl, don't even want to go there... Any comments about that?:handjob: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungStud 468 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Many do provide uncovered oral, which has a variety of risks. See, for example,this post: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73451#post73451 So I suppose it's all just a matter of degree and how risky (or stupid) people want to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzirider 737 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Again, that is very scary. I wonder why a guy would risk his health to do something like that. As for the girl, don't even want to go there... Because they do not care anymore !!!!!!!! AND your future is irrelevant to their small head brain !!!!!!! They are counting on competition and desperation. Am I wrong ? Tell them, only :handjob: for you buddy !!!!!! :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 I think everyone has their own definition. :) To me, GFE means a sweet and loving attitude + most of the acronyms, except CIM, greek and COF. PSE means a sexually agressive attitude + most of the acronyms, except french kissing, which is left to the discretion of the provider. No restrictions mean that anything goes as long as it does not put the health of anyone at serious risks (so of course, this mean NO bareback penetration). As for me... I consider myself 100% GFE with a touch of PSE. Well said Ariane, 100% GFE you could not get any better than that..with the hint/splash/touch of PSE is how I like it :69: never BBFS..WTF is up with that?? I enjoy giving the PPE.....Pistol Pete Experience :bddog: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariane Valmont 332 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 I am still wondering however, why in the last year I am getting guys who are asking if I can do intercourse without a condom. Apparently there are some providers out there who are doing this, or so that's what they're saying. Like I said, I don't remember being asked this in the past. Again, that is very scary. I wonder why a guy would risk his health to do something like that. As for the girl, don't even want to go there... Any comments about that? Good question. Eventhough it's not very smart, I can understand that a guy would "lose it" during the action and ask for BBFS. It did happen to me a couple of times that my partner requested it... needless to say that I refused and they respected my choice. Don't get me wrong : I don't think that it's ok!! But I do think we all have been in a situation where we were so turned on that we did not think straight. The guys that asked me for BBFS during intercourse were very intelligent and respectful men but for a minute, they simply forgot what was best for them. Good thing that I was there to remind them. :) But planning to have BBFS? This is just crazy. I can't find any rational justification to explain why someone would want to do that. Well said Ariane, 100% GFE you could not get any better than that..with the hint/splash/touch of PSE is how I like it never BBFS..WTF is up with that?? I enjoy giving the PPE.....Pistol Pete Experience Hopefully, one day we will have the pleasure to combine the PPE and the AVE. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Hopefully, one day we will have the pleasure to combine the PPE and the AVE. ;) NOW that I would really look forward to, a very yummy experience, shared by 2 experienced, sensual, and erotic individuals;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*****tte Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Some gentlemen have great difficulty with condoms and/or fetishize the bareback experience so much that their better judgement goes out the window. When that happens so does my interest in seeing them. In my private life I had a friend who was just out of a long term relationship tell me he was shy about having sex with me because he was no longer used to condoms and had trouble maintaining an erection when he wore one. He didn't try to bully me into not using them. I was interested in him so we just did other things and had a good time. I really appreciated his honesty and vulnerability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 But planning to have BBFS? This is just crazy. I can't find any rational justification to explain why someone would want to do that. We're all guilty of being irrational at one time or another, and some people don't understand the concept of ration at all. And then there's plain old ignorant, stupid and reckless. There's a lot of people out there like that, always will be... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariane Valmont 332 Report post Posted August 15, 2009 We're all guilty of being irrational at one time or another, and some people don't understand the concept of ration at all. And then there's plain old ignorant, stupid and reckless. There's a lot of people out there like that, always will be... With all the education and information out there, can you really be that ignorant in 2009? You're absolutely right: we are all irrational at times. But when it comes to your own life, I would hope that people would think twice about something that could have deadly consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bylogger 136 Report post Posted August 17, 2009 Many of the porn guys are sheathed these days. But bare with the high rate of STDs these days? Ouch. some guys say they believe it also includes no condom for intercouse (like they do in the porns), but I have a hard time believing that SPs who advertise PSE would do that.:69: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 A male friend of mine told me he went to see a girl about 2 weeks ago advertising on "that free board". She said he could have intercourse with no condom for an extra $100. When he declined, she asked him if he had any condoms on him, because she was all out. His only other option was a BBBJ. Considering the fact she revealed she was willing to do bareback intercourse, he did not want to risk anything further by getting a BBBJ from her. So, he left. The next day he became a member of CERB. Says he should have listened to me to begin with. Yesterday he went to see one of our lovely Ottawa SPs and was very pleased. So I think there's something to be said about us ladies on here, which to me is a compliment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 Good question. Eventhough it's not very smart, I can understand that a guy would "lose it" during the action and ask for BBFS. It did happen to me a couple of times that my partner requested it... needless to say that I refused and they respected my choice. Don't get me wrong : I don't think that it's ok!! But I do think we all have been in a situation where we were so turned on that we did not think straight. The guys that asked me for BBFS during intercourse were very intelligent and respectful men but for a minute, they simply forgot what was best for them. Good thing that I was there to remind them. :) But planning to have BBFS? This is just crazy. I can't find any rational justification to explain why someone would want to do that. ;) I hear you. That is probably why I was asked a few times, not because they were actually getting it from other girls, just hoping they might in that "moment of weakness". I don't believe what happened to my friend (post above) is the norm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites