What if scenario ... the demise of strip clubs

[castle 38816]

Regarding restrooms, sure they have them. I am talking about showers, towels etc. Maybe there will be that in the future.

 

I'm here to tell you they do have shower facilities. Sure not for the men, but the dancers have shower facilities in their locker room. I'm not sure where you got this idea that they don't have showers for the dancers.

 

More than once a dancer has come to sit with me after coming in from the locker room and I can tell she is freshly showered. And no she didn't just get there. Or ladies mentioning how they're going to take a shower after a dance, etc. After doing 3 songs under those lights on that hot stage several times a night....not to mention the CR dances....every woman in that place would be downright rank about an hour into their shift....but they're not. Because they shower.

[ngtime 560]

And so early in the morning! Yes I agree that dancers do freshen-up, but not always I have seen many leave the CR with another client waiting for their turn, even if they do shower after every CR visit and stage show. I have no disdain for the SC, just that I have grown out of them. I want my privacy and I would like to shower too. Completion is difficult if at all possible in the CR and messy.

 

I have tried to return to the SC, but the excitement is gone.

[Peachka 4334]

I agree with ngtime. I have seen many dancers come out of the vip after dancing for a client & then another customer takes them right back in. No bathroom, no shower, right back in. I have also seen that most guys don't wash their hands after taking a leak and if these guys are touching the dancer...

[whiteman 14028]

I agree with ngtime. I have seen many dancers come out of the vip after dancing for a client & then another customer takes them right back in. No bathroom, no shower, right back in. I have also seen that most guys don't wash their hands after taking a leak and if these guys are touching the dancer...

You do realize that not every CR session ends in a client popping his load on the dancer, right? In fact, I'd say it's a miniscule minority that end like that. You must think there are dicks popping off like champagne bottles in there, or something (yes, it's called a Champagne Room, but not because of that).

 

Most dances are just the guys copping a feel of the woman's body, and that's it. If that's too unhygienic for you, then you better not even walk down the street, as sweat from a random stranger might evaporate and condense on you. In fact, I'm gonna bet that if you did walk down a random street with a UV light, you'll see more filth than in a CR.

[Peachka 4334]

What's with the condescending attitude?

 

I am well aware of what goes on. My point was I have seen many dancers go in the vip after coming out and not cleaning up. Most guys don't wash their hands after peeing. Then they go and feel a dancers boobs and then some other guys may kiss and suck on those boobs so they are basically sucking on some guys urine.

[Bridgette 10998]

After doing 3 songs under those lights on that hot stage several times a night....not to mention the CR dances....every woman in that place would be downright rank about an hour into their shift....but they're not. Because they shower.

 

Nah, we're just magical creatures who don't sweat. ;)

 

In all seriousness though, we do certainly freshen up in the DR when we can, but I'm not sure how common showering is. Lots of ladies spend a long time on their hair and make up, so showering several times or even once a shift isn't the best way to spend time. I also don't think there are showers in many clubs... Not at Barb's or the Fax at least!

 

That said:

 

My point was I have seen many dancers go in the vip after coming out and not cleaning up. Most guys don't wash their hands after peeing. Then they go and feel a dancers boobs and then some other guys may kiss and suck on those boobs so they are basically sucking on some guys urine.

 

There's hand sanitizer in the CR, and many dancers both use it themselves and insist on their customers using it as well, so I'd say it's fairly inaccurate to say that there's urine on our boobs.

[bluethunder01 1111]

You are correct, Castle. I only go at night. I don't even remember the last time I visited a club in the day time. Las Vegas probably.

 

I'm going to visit Barb's Thursday around lunch and see the atmosphere there before I go to Bluesfest. Maybe it's time for a change.

[Peachka 4334]

There's hand sanitizer in the CR, and many dancers both use it themselves and insist on their customers using it as well, so I'd say it's fairly inaccurate to say that there's urine on our boobs.

 

MANY dancers use it but not all and certainly not all the customers. It's accurate to say that there is likely at least one dancer with this issue in any given evening.

[slacker 1290]

MANY dancers use it but not all and certainly not all the customers. It's accurate to say that there is likely at least one dancer with this issue in any given evening.

 

So don't go if you're that repulsed by it. Simple problem, simple solution.

[inti-mate 3454]

Never thought of the fact guys don't wash their hands and then we are in there with a lady that has just had another guy touching them. Its a fair thread. Makes you think.

 

Once I asked the guy that hands out the towels in pigale about what percentage wash their hands and he said when he is there 50-50. When he is not there I would say lot more than 50% don't.

 

Luckily there are however lots of ladies that are careful. One things about bridgette is she is dignified and you always feel she is clean and careful. Beautiful woman.

[ngtime 560]

You do realize that not every CR session ends in a client popping his load on the dancer, right? In fact, I'd say it's a miniscule minority that end like that. You must think there are dicks popping off like champagne bottles in there, or something (yes, it's called a Champagne Room, but not because of that).

 

Although I have curtailed the SC scene there is some truth to this and then there is not. Up until about a year ago my trips had to be in the hundreds over the years, and sessions varied from air dances to full service. Depends on the club, the lady, particular day. Things would change from club to club.

 

I understand the 'social aspect' just look at the Barbs thread.

[rexscott 520]

What's this about SC losing money?

 

Being part of the noon/afternoon crowd I can totally see how this would be true. I'm sure the BF manager hates me. I buy one beer and load up my plate at the buffet as high as it will go. And only about 1 time in 4 will I go for a CR dance.

[rosseyerie 161]

TAlso, the women just don't stand out any more. Everybody has the same skimpy outfits they probably bought at a discount store and tattoos. I went to Pigale yesterday night and nobody stood out. This place used to be full of 8-10s now it's mainly 5-6 in my opinion.

 

I have to agree with this poster... was there a few weeks ago with some friends... Pigales and their talent are a shadow of their former selves.

[ngtime 560]

It's an evolving industry, SC's are closing and no-one can deny that. What's next to close Pink Panther in Aylmer? And then there is the crime/drugs/guns. It's a reality, every few months there's another incident.

 

The gals and clients have moved on to a more controlled environment like a licensed MA spa. Cleaner, more services and can be less expensive. Yes there will remain a few as there still is a smaller market for the CR action.

[Eric Northman 16522]

Perhaps some of this is because it's just so much easier to hire an SP nowadays. I mean, before the internet, what the hell did you do? I wouldn't have had the first clue how to find an escort let alone any way to know how to keep myself safe. I sure as hell wouldn't have gone cruising for streetwalkers or something. Massage parlours might have been an option but I don't really know how you could tell which ones were legit or whatever. Really, a strip club would be about the only way for a sheltered, non-worldly fellow like myself to get a little 'action' without putting a lot of time and effort into figuring out the somewhat scary world (at the time) of escorting.

 

Now, with sites like CERB and various other online resources, it's trivial to find someone and do research to make sure it's on the up and up. So there really isn't any point in a strip club anymore as far as I'm concerned. They were just a sub-standard solution to a problem that the internet has completely solved for me.

[ngtime 560]

You know I never thought of it that way. Before CERB, I would pass by a Massage Parlor, and had no idea what it was all about. The SC is fading, who could doubt that? However there still exists a smaller market for those who like the socialization with the dancers and wish not go on to the next level.

[whiteman 14028]

Perhaps some of this is because it's just so much easier to hire an SP nowadays. I mean, before the internet, what the hell did you do? I wouldn't have had the first clue how to find an escort let alone any way to know how to keep myself safe. I sure as hell wouldn't have gone cruising for streetwalkers or something. Massage parlours might have been an option but I don't really know how you could tell which ones were legit or whatever. Really, a strip club would be about the only way for a sheltered, non-worldly fellow like myself to get a little 'action' without putting a lot of time and effort into figuring out the somewhat scary world (at the time) of escorting.

 

Now, with sites like CERB and various other online resources, it's trivial to find someone and do research to make sure it's on the up and up. So there really isn't any point in a strip club anymore as far as I'm concerned. They were just a sub-standard solution to a problem that the internet has completely solved for me.

Well, us old-timers used to have something called newspaper classified ads. That was our Internet of the day. :)

 

Additional Comments:

You know I never thought of it that way. Before CERB, I would pass by a Massage Parlor, and had no idea what it was all about. The SC is fading, who could doubt that? However there still exists a smaller market for those who like the socialization with the dancers and wish not go on to the next level.

I like massage, but I still like going to SC's. After a bit of age, I've learned to control my spending habits enough to not go all out in a SC, and spend as much money was would've been better off going to an MP.

[Peachka 4334]

A night out at a SC with your buddies is still lots of fun! I like to get out every few months with the boys from my hockey team. I would hate to see SC's disappear.

[daredevil8888 407]

Technology will continue to erode the client base, and talent, but until we all have sex robots/ touchable 3D, I think it is fairly safe to say the clubs will continue to find a way to survive. I thought the Cabaret Canada location was done for, but even with everything it has been through it has still found a way to keep its' strip bar license. I wonder if Ontario has lost some ladies who would have worked in a club to web cam, but it might also be true webcams have helped other ladies overcome some fears. I am pretty sure webcams have helped ladies extent their stripping careers. I am pretty sure I would be saving money if I had bought a $5000 sex doll instead of going to a club all these years. Then again I go to a club to be stimulated by a friendly lady, which is something a doll is years away from doing, and usually the ladies at the club are clean and smell nice without me doing anything.

 

While it is possible laws might be created to ban clubs, I doubt it will pass since there are too many rich people who enjoy the clubs. As others have mentioned, massage parlors would find their business boom if all the clubs were closed and it would not be long before one would start having drinks available for clients. But enjoying a beer and naked women with friends might be more difficult without clubs. If the escorts win that court case, we may actually see a new type of club be born. The local and federal governments has made it a bit harder on clubs. Smoking ban in all bars, and lowering the legal limit of blood alcohol while driving. Banning dancers from entering Canada who attempt to come in using a certain work visa. I was happy to find out my favs were not being deported.

 

DD

[Eric Northman 16522]

Then again I go to a club to be stimulated by a friendly lady, which is something a doll is years away from doing, and usually the ladies at the club are clean and smell nice without me doing anything.

 

I don't think robots having sufficient personality to compete with real humans is anywhere close to years away. I'm not convinced it will happen in any of our lifetimes. Love to be proven wrong though.

[ngtime 560]

There will remain a few though as there is a market. CERB has enlightened those to other options. Ironically what's killing the clubs is the availability of FS or pretty close to it. Both dancers and clients have better and safer options in a controlled environment with shower facilities and more privacy.

[whiteman 14028]

There will remain a few though as there is a market. CERB has enlightened those to other options. Ironically what's killing the clubs is the availability of FS or pretty close to it. Both dancers and clients have better and safer options in a controlled environment with shower facilities and more privacy.

It's not unusual to hook up with a dancer outside their work at the club. It doesn't happen often, but it happens occasionally. Many use their dancing careers to advertise their SP careers.

[Bridgette 10998]

I wonder if Ontario has lost some ladies who would have worked in a club to web cam, but it might also be true webcams have helped other ladies overcome some fears.

 

While there is certainly some crossover between a few dancers/cam girls, I don't think it's a very high amount. Despite being in the same industry, they're both very different jobs. For one thing, stripping is much more anonymous and controlled. With camming, your face is forever out there on the Internet and it's impossible to track down everywhere screenshots/recordings end up. Not to mention, being at the club is inherently much more social than working from home. They're both just such different experiences - both for performer and client - that I don't think they have too great of an impact on each other.

[ngtime 560]

Take-out was mentioned by one of the posters, before I quit the SC scene I was offered multiple times, but never delivered. Phone-calls not responded and stood up too a few times. Exciting if it is offered, but that's where it ended.

[whiteman 14028]

Take-out was mentioned by one of the posters, before I quit the SC scene I was offered multiple times, but never delivered. Phone-calls not responded and stood up too a few times. Exciting if it is offered, but that's where it ended.

That might have happened in the past when these girls were still making tons of dosh, just from their stripping activities, so no point in hooking up with a client if you're already making enough. But now they aren't making as much, and the hook ups actually take place, with at least a 50% chance.