Best agency?

[s***_t (Retired) 178]

What agency do people suggest?

 

 

I heard lace stilletos is quite good, wonderful treatment of the SP's etc etc...

 

Ah.. you guys are so nice to bear with me..

 

:rolleyes:

 

[d*mm*y 887]

Why do you want to pay an agency? I think you can get a ton business and just keep it for yourself, the agencies don't do anything other than make you work 2x harder for the same money?

 

If you must have an agent Erin says great things about Ottawa Play Girls.

 

If you just want a crash course in getting started come to lunch on Thursday and we will get you started.

[Akhenaton 221]

You might want to just check your inbox here, I think you'll find quite a few requests waiting for you :)

[suburb1 153]

You might want to just check your inbox here, I think you'll find quite a few requests waiting for you :)

 

 

Why do you want to pay an agency? I think you can get a ton business and just keep it for yourself, the agencies don't do anything other than make you work 2x harder for the same money?

 

If you must have an agent Erin says great things ab PM some of thout Ottawa Play Girls.

 

If you just want a crash course in getting started come to lunch on Thursday and we will get you started.

 

 

You really should considering the excellent advice from Akhenaton and Dummpy. Perhaps a few of the ideependfent ladies on CERB would share best practices at lunch or later privately.

[teched 418]

I have to agree with the above comments.

 

What the agencies will do for you of value is take calls, help you manage a schedule and take money.

 

If you are able to manage your own schedule and you start by only booking via CERB PM's and/or email the interruptions can be minimized and the money will be maximized.

 

If however you are unable to manage your schedule you will have trouble keeping busy and an agency may be an asset.

 

Best of luck

[sensfan2008 102]

That is great advice you are getting, You are basically paying someone to take calls, you could always get a friend to do that or make all appointments by pm, emails or msn or other chat area's. You work hard for the money, you don't want to give it away for the little you will be helped. Again I am sure your pm is full ( with mine being in there as well) ps do you still have the blue hair:razz:

[s***_t (Retired) 178]

I didn't post this!

My post was longer

I wonder why it was censored :S

[Andee 220524]

Contact the MOD and find out...

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

I think the question you should ask is how long you want to be in the business.

 

If it is for a short period of time, and you want to have a constant flow of business than I think a busy agency would be a good choice for you.

 

If you are looking for a longer term thing where you build some long term clients then going Independant might be a better choice.

 

I disagree with above comments that imply that agencies are out to scam your money. A good agency acts on your behalf and goes out and gets the business for you, screens and helps you keep things organized. Helps you out with finding hotels, drive service ect.

 

Its like if you were to go and sell your home, you COULD do it on your own and keep all of the commission. Most people would prefer to go through an agent, so there would be no hiccups, even if it meant they had to give up a piece of the pie. Similar idea with an agency.

 

Cerb is a great resource and a good way to pick up some business, but it is not going to keep you consistantly booked. I would say the majority of our clients don;t even know what Cerb is until I tell them. Which is unfortunate as its has some really good quality clientel.

[E*****s**r 210]

As with any 'business' there is a rather large difference between being self employed and simply being employed. I think some people lose track of that fact.

A long time ago in a galaxy far away (j/k :P) I worked as a baker in Tim Hortons (before they switched to ready-to-go frozen junk...aww the days of sleeping for 40m on flour bags while you waited for your dough to rise :P)

They calculated every 2 seconds beyond the first 10s that a car sits at the drive thru window, pushing back the number of cars per hour, it costs the company $60 000 a year in potential revenue; 60 000(Yhours x Zstores) = millions of dollars a year.

 

I haven't had as much experience as a lot of others with escorts/courtesan but I have had quite a wide range of varying differences between indy's and agencies in just contacting them.

Agencies such as Pk and GoE (whom I will have the honour of visiting Dekota this coming week) always had someone available to speak with. They were always energetic and knew exactly how to answer any and all of my questions; there is only so much web browsing you can do/stand.

 

Pkjason raises some great points imo.

 

Independants for me, so far, have been hit and miss just to contact. While those here on CERB, or with just a brilliant reputation, may be some of the dearest/greatest ladies out there, they are not always available to speak to you; be it they are with a client or not working at that time/day.

Screening calls likely takes it's toll on independants aswell. Ladies correct me if I'm wrong but dealing with jerks and immature people is no piece of heaven.

Granted if you find the perfect balance, as the successful indies have, I agree you would make more money than going with an agency; and you will be better set for the long haul (as Pkjason mentions)

[YoungStud 468]

Independents do more work but they make more money.

 

Dealing with jerks as clients as an independent or dealing with jerks at agencies as an escort could require pretty much the same amount of energy.

 

You know how well your first experience with an agency worked out Suri. So good luck in the future if you go that route.

[slurp 7020]

Ah.. you guys are so nice to bear with me..

 

:rolleyes:

 

Just let me know when you want to get bare with me LOL

 

:bowdown:

[VedaSloan 119179]

Look, I do *both.* That is, I work for an agency and I have my own clients who I see independent of the Playgirls. Tracey knows that I'd never see a client of hers outside the agency and I keep that trust by never breaking it. In this way, I can offset the money the agency takes by seeing two or three of my own clients per week.

 

You need to do what *you* what want to do. Don't be bullied or take any shit from people who will tell you that there is no point working for an agency because they'll just take half your cash. Weigh the pros and cons and decide what is right for you.

 

I like working for an agency because I absolutely DO NOT have the patience to deal with the inane, offensive, ignorant requests/questions and often, atrocious spelling and grammar that comes with scheduling your own appointments. I'm terrible on the phone, I work much better in person. That's what I'm good at. So I let an agent take care of the crap I hate and I don't mind giving them a portion of the fee to do it. Also, if I'm having a shitty day and I'm not emotionally capable of seeing a client, I don't have to. I just don't go on call. I don't have to explain to anyone why I'm not working, or have an excuse for why I don't feel like it.

 

It is not *always* about making the most money. It's about making a living in a way that is most enjoyable for you. Some of us do this because we love it, not because we're blinded by dollar signs.

 

That being said, to answer your query, I can only recommend my agency, the Ottawa Playgirls. I've never worked for anyone else, and I wouldn't want to.

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

Well Said...

[VedaSloan 119179]

Well Said...

 

I'll assume you were referring to me. Thanks :)

[Discreetvalley 121]

With DV, the ladies follow their schedule as it is display on our website. They can change it anytime. If they can't do what they say, then they can not be part of DV, part of a business.

 

They are independant at DV, they can drive themself, they can earn and they can plan. The choosen escort can also call the client before hand of course! why not ?

 

We filter the quality together.

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

Yes Erin I was refering you your posting.. xo

 

As for Suri.. I think that whoever ends up representing you is lucky, and I will say No matter what your experience with the first agency was, I am positive it could only be better the second time around.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

SA, I have to challenge your theory on Dancing, it is not much safer and in many ways much more effort must be made to make the same kind of money.

Which can be demeaning and disrespectful to the girls. Dancers are often faced with having to do or perform certain acts in the champagne room for bargain basement prices, if they don't there's 20 + other girls who will.

 

Dancing has always been about survival of the fittest and is pretty cut throat and even more so now in this economy where for the cost of a few songs you can enjoy much more intimate company in a relaxed atmosphere with your special lady.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

SA, we'll have to agree to disagree. I did work in many clubs for many years, so I have an insight that you may not be able to appreciate. I maintain contact with people still in the bizz and I know for a fact that a lot more goes on in champagne rooms than you might imagine. As for demeaning, or objectifing simply dancing on stage or on a stool can be a horrifying and objectifiing experience for many girls.

 

of course gangbangs don't happen in strip clubs but other acts do, trust me they do. Don't get me wrong I'm not hating on the ladies for doing them, but rather the customers who would take advantage of the situation to get more than they are entitled to, strip clubs are for entertainment and teasing, but many customers try to get much more which is disrespectful to the girls and often the requests can be disrespectful, thereby making the stripclub environment less safe than you might have imagined. And were not talking about lower grad strip clubs, we're talking about many of the top familiar names.

 

In short advising a woman to dance rather than escorting is not neccisarly the best career advice to give out.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Yes, I agree with you on this.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy kenny

As for demeaning, or objectifing simply dancing on a stool can be a horrifying and objectifiing experience for many girls. .

 

Hah:eek:!!. I am not sure what you mean but in all these 12-15 years, I never witnessed anything like this!!!!.

 

 

Sorry SA but if you've never seen or heard of a woman dancing on a stool I'm not sure you're qualified to contribute to this thread, it's a common practice, known as a "table dance". Also in future please don't miss quote me. You can quote me but don't edit my quote, thanks.

 

 

Now to get this thread back on track Suri, you have many fans and there has been some good advice from most members. Remember though the agency works for you, you decide when you work, when your available and what your rates are, they are simply your agent.

 

Being an indy has it's benefits but if you're not in it for the long haul the agency route might be best for you. Regardless wich you choose I know you'll be booked up quickly based on the feedback and high praise I've heard about you and your pretty blue hair!

[Andee 220524]

My advice to you Suri is while you're going to school, you might want to work for an agency that will accommodate your schedule. You might want to follow Erin's recommendation for Ottawa Playgirls. I use the same drivers as them and can assure you, they would never insist you take a call where you don't feel comfortable. (Not being familiar with how all the other agencies operate, this is not to say any particular agency would push you to work, just that OPG would not).

 

I believe you mentioned in another thread, something to the effect you didn't like all the secrecy, so I would not recommend dancing as you will really be putting yourself "out there" and unless you're thicked skin and able to put up with the "hustle" mentality that goes along with being a dancer, you will hate it even more than escorting, believe me. I think dancers end up putting up with more bullshit than we do, in the end. Because you are younger, you will ultimately put up with more bs than I would, being more mature, but at least you have the agency watching your back in the way of accountability, security and screening.

 

With the escorting, it's best to be realistic about a reasonable availability schedule and having an agency do the bookings, arranging for the driving, will be less stress on you. Because OPG only does outcalls, you don't have to worry about risk of breaking the law doing in-calls. Then you may not "hate" it so much as you did when you first started. I got the impression that perhaps maybe you overdid it.

 

I am sure because you are young and cute, you would be quite popular. But it's important not to burn yourself out. You will get jaded very quickly and it will leave a permanent bad taste (no pun intended) in your mouth about escorting. When I first escorted up in Grande Prairie Alberta, we were literally pushed to work, work, work. It was the early 90s, and the money up there was flowing like oil. Because escorts had to be licensed and be affiliated with an agency in order to work, if you didn't do what the agency owner said, you were fired. So, those working conditions were extremely stressful.

 

I remember one time, after my 10th call in as many hours, I literally sat in the bathtub, numb and cried, asking myself, what the hell did I sign up for. The $2,000 I made that day didn't make up for it. Some girls would jump at the chance to be able to do 10 calls these days, but let me tell you, no one can keep up that pace for very long without resorting to some kind of "pick-me up" and that is a whole another subject I will not get into here.

 

Now, I am content with up to three calls a day. But that's me, at 45. (I couldn't do even 5 calls in a day even if I tried, now).

 

So, think about going agency again. There's lots of time in the future to be an independent if that's what you decide to do later. But for now, believe me, from SP to another, that would be your best bet.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

SA, stop putting words in my mouth! I didn't remove anything from your post.

 

Clearly you have one opinion and I have another. I speak from having worked in the industry and know of what I speak.

 

The reference to table dancing as being demeaning also included dancing on the stage.

 

Plain and simple, as an escort the woman is in control of the situation and call the shots, in a strip club she is one of many there to satisfy the male clients, and if one girl doesn't do any extras, then the rest will. As an escort a woman is empowered, as a stripper a woman is objectified. Yes when I worked in the industry and where I worked it was about eroticism and entertainment , much has changed now that a girl has to do way too much for way too long to make a fair dollar.

[d*mm*y 887]

SA you have the wrong view of the strip club trying spending 15 minutes in the change room. I was married to a Dancer, she became a feature because she could not deal with the girls. I have dated many dancers and it is not the "show" that you see out front as a customer.

 

Some women thrive in the strip club environment, however it is just as dangerous (different dangers) and just as demoralizing as being an escort. It is just as difficult making friends outside of the industry and just as difficult to tell your family. To think for one second that it easier is very foolish, and think it is offensive to strippers. Some women are much happier being service providers, and in very rare cases some women can comfortably go between both.

 

The reality is that in today's society very few women can actually deal with the stresses and difficulties of either and most realize the sex industry just si not for them.

 

SA you fantasy at the strip club is shining through, after being married to one and dating a few of them there is no way I want to go a strip club because I know the coal mine that they are for the ladies.

[d*mm*y 887]

BTW Suri I am sorry that your thread has been hijacked by this stupidity. I believe you tried the dancing thing when you left the business a few months ago so I am sure you have already made up your mind about it. Many of the fine independents here started their career with an agency and worked that way for the first 3-6 months it is not a bad idea until you learn the ropes. However I have heard many horror stories about the wrong agencies!! And at this point if you could just book all the people that have pm'd you I am sure you would make tuition plus a bit!!

[Andee 220524]

I have witnessed myself many times how some ladies making tonnes of money by simply being kissed on the body (above the belt) or a few simple touching and continue to witness that (sometimes from personal experience). To satisfy clients in SCs and how far she goes to satisfy that customer is entirely the ladies' choice not imposed by some pushy clients in the bedroom (alone with the lady) or (some) agencies.

 

I have been reading the posts between you and CK and I need to say something. You are just viewing this from the "outside". I have friends who have worked as dancers and I can tell you it's not all roses.

 

How about the girls who book on, and barely cover their expenses for the night because the club isn't busy or there are too many girls working. How about the girls who feel pressured to provide extra mileage because if they don't they won't make any money. How about the clients who grab and touch them in unwanted places. How about the girls who when dancing on a table, are grabbed unexpectedly and end up falling and injuring themselves, unable to work after. How about the damage done to girl's hips and back from constantly walking around in high platform stilletoes. How about the clubs that have dirty dressing rooms that amount to nothing but a woman's bathroom with hooks to hang your clothes. How about the girls who steal other girls clothes, do drugs and cause problems for other girls. That's the stuff you don't see.

 

As for pushy guys in the bedroom trying to make us escorts do something we don't want to do. I cannot remember the last time I had someone like that. If an escort is confident, takes times to screen the clients before booking and is assertive and set boundaries, those kind of guys may try, but will ultimately will look elsewhere. And if you work for an agency that pushes you, then quit.

 

In clubs it's different, because you are competing with other girls for the same customers and it's dog-eat-dog. It's hard to be an "honest" dancer, because it's all about the hustle. A friend of mine quit because she hated having to schmooze and she had clothes stolen and girls threatening her behind her back. Not all clubs are reputable and even though they may provide security inside the club, things happen outside sometimes that are unpleasant. I am not saying it is always like this all the time, but it is real and it does happen.

 

I do not wish to sound hostile, but until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes, don't assume you know what it's like to be either just because you have frequented clubs and hobbied.

 

There is good and bad with everything, but to say dancing is "better" than escorting is, as you put it, YOUR opinion.