Discretion When Visiting An SP

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I'm sure it doesn't have to be said to a lot of people here but when visiting an SP, discretion goes a long way. When she gives specific instructions, please follow them and don't deter from them for what you think is just for your own safety and discretion.

 

When an SP asks someone to do something where protocol is concerned, it's for a reason. Please don't go against it as it will only work against you. A person attempting to play secret agent and thinking they're going unnoticed only makes things worse for the SP and her stress level. This includes hanging around in her building, shouting her escort name at the intercom in the building saying they're there for an apt, hanging around in their car in the area she lives in and a client not parking where they were told to. It can be comparable to an SP going to a client's house on a outcall and have some person take her there in an old, loud junker car and she gets out wearing clothing that is less than discrete. I'm sure the client would be mortified wondering if any of their neighbors had just witnessed that or what they were thinking

 

Someone thinks by parking way down the street and walking quite a ways isn't noticed by anyone? To someone living in the area, they would think to themselves, why wouldn't they have just parked at the person's house? People notice things like that and if a client is given specific instructions, please follow them. A client doesn't like to see neighbors after they've parked further down the street and have to walk past them after the fact. Had the person just parked their car as directed, they could have just gotten in their car and drove away. Playing secret agent doesn't always make a person invisible. In fact, it's drawing more attention to themselves. Sometimes the best way for a person to be discrete is to be out in the open and act like they belong there. And also when a client is playing secret agent with an SP, this makes her very weary and less inclined to go through with the appt. I've turned a few people away as a result of this.

 

In an SP's environment and surroundings, she is aware of what is going on as opposed to the client going into unchartered territory. While this can be nerve wracking for some clients to visit an SP and worried about being jumped by some Bubba behind the door, it is best to do your homework first. However, and as far as I know, SPs here on Cerb are not into bait and switch tactics, robbing clients, etc. For both SP and client, neither of them know what they are walking into and I understand this. It can also be said for SPs who are inviting people into their own space and often times not knowing what to expect can also be very stressful.

 

However, those who don't follow instructions don't seem to care about their actions after not listening to the SP and then get all worried about it after, it's their own fault. When I ask someone to do something it's for a good reason and that is discretion. I get very upset when people go against what I say and I'm saying it for a reason...for mine and yours. It's almost as if I'm knocking and no one is answering and it's extremely frustrating not to mention disrespectful. If some can't follow instructions and are inconsiderate and indiscrete to discretion and protocol then it's not someone I want to see. Clients demand discretion and I expect the same in return. Thanks for your consideration.

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Similar threads started in the newbie section that could be helpful:

 

Discretion and the Importance of Following Protocol at an SP's Location

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=135381

 

 

The Importance of following Instructions....

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78942

 

 

 

Additional Comments:

And somewhat relevant to this discussion:

 

A ladies location: info to never be shared

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=109295

[roamingguy 300292]

Something else, maybe it's appropriate to interpose here. What happens in an encounter is private between the lady and gentleman. The only thing about the encounter that can be shared with others is what is written in a recommendation, and only imho after the lady has read and ok'd the recommendation for posting. But details, whether it is the lady's phone number, or her address, or intimate details of the encounter, that is between the lady and gentleman and only for them to know.

Besides being discrete, it adds to the intimacy that two people shared in an encounter.

A quick rambling

RG

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Something else, maybe it's appropriate to interpose here. What happens in an encounter is private between the lady and gentleman. The only thing about the encounter that can be shared with others is what is written in a recommendation, and only imho after the lady has read and ok'd the recommendation for posting. But details, whether it is the lady's phone number, or her address, or intimate details of the encounter, that is between the lady and gentleman and only for them to know.

Besides being discrete, it adds to the intimacy that two people shared in an encounter.

A quick rambling

RG

Ahhhhhhh, Hubby, virtual Hubby, I am in a feisty mood today and will agree with parts of your post and disagree with another ;) The joys of virtual marriages lol

 

I do agree with the fact that discretion is of the utmost importance when engaging in this lifestyle/hobby and that following instructions is just as important when meeting with a lady at her incall location (hotel or private location) as not sharing her personal details with others (address, phone number if not public, real name, etc.). I think Cleo addressed the issue quite nicely in the thread she started a while ago.

 

BUT where I have to kinda disagree with you is about the "intimate details" of the encounter; some ladies do not mind a more detailed recommendation and some really don't appreciate it. I think it is fair to say that everyone has their own style and preferences when it comes to recos (gentlemen and ladies alike) and what is good for one might not be good for another ;)

 

Ok, back to Nicolette's thread lol

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

My biggest pet peeve....when I say you can park int he laneway (or the more popular central canadian expression - park in the driveway) do so! Nothing is more obvious in a residential neighborhood than someone who parks on the street and walks on down to a home with a big empty laneway! I may not include that in my ads but I certainly state it upon confirmation of address!

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I must add that a client visiting an SP is often worried about neighbors approaching them or get spooked if one is outside. You are a visitor and it is no one else's business why you are there. Many people have home based businesses with customers or clients going there to conduct business. Follow instructions, act like you belong there and there is no problem.

[loneskater 25635]

 

...BUT where I have to kinda disagree with you is about the "intimate details" of the encounter; some ladies do not mind a more detailed recommendation and some really don't appreciate it. I think it is fair to say that everyone has their own style and preferences when it comes to recos (gentlemen and ladies alike) and what is good for one might not be good for another ;)

 

Ok, back to Nicolette's thread lol

 

I agree with your comment. Also according to CERB rules reccos are a client area( Male or female) and providers are not allowed to comment in there. If a provider disagrees with a recco she is to contact MOD about it. The writer doesn't have to clear reccos with the provider in question. I also know that MOD would reprimand any provider that ask a client for a recco. As long as there are no negative comments its up to the writer to express himself.

 

I do however make it a point to ask ladies before hand if they like reccos to be detailed or not. That is a personal choice not an obligation. Beside giving me their preference, I never had ladies that wanted to review my recco prior to posting it.

[CristyCurves 169032]

You can ask politely, preach and pray that all will follow rules, use common sense, but in the end people do what they want. All one can do is choose the good clients that are discreet and follow your guidelines and ignore the rest. I have learned in this business there are SOME nice clients, SOME who play games, SOME who follow protocol to a T and SOME who just won't follow directions even if they were lead by them on a leash! So my advise would be, treasure the good ones and worry about things you can control:)

[Guest webothscore]

Also, sometimes if an mp or sp lives really really close to a large and popular business or mall, that would be better than parking down the street and walking past a few neighbours who saw a client walk past a few houses after parking down the street. This is simply an additional option/thought and not meant to replace anything suggested. I add this because some, not all, providers and clients find parking in the exact driveway problematic. I won't get into those discretionary reasons but there are some (special vehicle recognized, something happened on that driveway, accident or break-in, etc. list goes on and on). Anyway, the initial SP obviously has many good reasons for writing her thread, but just wanted to add that tiny additional option, besides, if somebody took public transit that day, they would have to walk from somewhere, and it's usually from a popular destination...

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I once worked with another SP where she had the advantage of visitor parking. A guy visiting from out of town where English wasn't his first language contacted me for an appt. I gave him directions from the intersection in the area of town where I was hosting.

 

While he was still a ways away, he kept getting lost ( maybe the language barrier) but after putting him on the phone with the SP I worked with ( she could speak French) he still didn't follow instructions and even asked me to go in my vehicle 5 kms away and have him follow me! That wasn't going to happen. So he gets onto her street and there is visitor parking. Of course he doesn't listen and parks right in front of her house in the middle of the street where this is a big no no and she has to rush outside to direct him to visitor parking.

 

I found out after the appt that all along he had a GPS in his vehicle and didn't want to enter the SP's address in it because he was with his wife visiting their daughter who lived in the area. Then he said he would just enter his daughter's address on the way back!! Couldn't he just delete the address after the fact? Grrrr!! I took the rest of the day off after that ( lol) because I was in such a bad and frustrated mood!

[Guest realnicehat]

Someone thinks by parking way down the street and walking quite a ways isn't noticed by anyone? To someone living in the area, they would think to themselves, why wouldn't they have just parked at the person's house? People notice things like that and if a client is given specific instructions, please follow them. A client doesn't like to see neighbors after they've parked further down the street and have to walk past them after the fact. Had the person just parked their car as directed, they could have just gotten in their car and drove away.

 

I have seen this so many times in my neighbourhood, although it is usually for the low level drug dealers rather than SP's. Nothing makes someone stand out more than parking on a nearly empty street and walking back 7 or 8 houses as fast as they can with their head down.

 

They have basically shouted to everyone in the area "hey, I'm up to something" and made the house that they enter a point of interest and gossip.

 

Also, just to be clear, hoodies do not make someone invisible.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Also, sometimes if an mp or sp lives really really close to a large and popular business or mall, that would be better than parking down the street and walking past a few neighbours who saw a client walk past a few houses after parking down the street. This is simply an additional option/thought and not meant to replace anything suggested. I add this because some, not all, providers and clients find parking in the exact driveway problematic. I won't get into those discretionary reasons but there are some (special vehicle recognized, something happened on that driveway, accident or break-in, etc. list goes on and on). Anyway, the initial SP obviously has many good reasons for writing her thread, but just wanted to add that tiny additional option, besides, if somebody took public transit that day, they would have to walk from somewhere, and it's usually from a popular destination...

 

I totally understand where you're coming from. A quiet residential area is more problematic and suspicious with a person simply parking their vehicle further away and walking up as opposed to someone walking from a much longer distance who has parked their vehicle elsewhere and isn't witnessed by neighbors or those who aren't driving.

 

However, if a client is in a work vehicle with certain signage on it and due to his job status, HAS to be discreet then it's understandable.. If that's the case, like Webothscore mentioned, a strip mall or a larger retailer store would be a better place to park and walk over.

 

If someone is paranoid and wants to park far away, they should do it out of sight far enough away from the SPs location and not just around a corner where neighbors have both views of the client getting out of their vehicle and walking to the location. That is a problem. The closer the person's car is, the quicker they are able to leave if they are paranoid or simply just want to be discrete and act like they were there visiting.

 

I don't understand the logic of someone parking further away but still in the presence of neighbors but get worried when they see a neighbor outside and have to walk by them with a bit of a walk on top of that. Park in the laneway and when the client leaves, they drive away. That's it.

 

If some clients are worried about SPs seeing what kind of car they drive or license plate, I for one am not interested. I really don't care as long as you don't pose a threat or danger to me. Discretion is paramount and I definitely understand it, offer it and respect it. I only expect the same in return.

 

On the flip side, clients who have certain jobs or have their own business where they drive a work truck and a neighbor thinks they are there to fix something ( bonus for the SP) but that is up to the client and his situation where his job and discretion is concerned.

[loneskater 25635]

Well things happen and people sometimes make nervous mistakes or their nervousness cloud their judgement.

 

I once had a reg SP that preferred coming to my place. So on her 2nd visit we never discussed my location again as I am located on a street corner and easy to remember the place. Unfortunately the neighbor on the next street corner who's house is similar to mine, except for color, bought a pick up truck same color and brand as mine with very little differences. So as the RV time approached, I peaked out my window and saw her pull into the other guy's driveway. I rushed to my door and shouted at her and caught her attention seconds before she rang his doorbell.

 

We laughed at this every time we met afterwards. Thing is she had been at my place before and knew I was on the 2nd street corner but she got distracted by the other truck.. So I can understand some ppl making mistakes on a first visit.

[Guest realnicehat]

I once worked with another SP where she had the advantage of visitor parking. A guy visiting from out of town where English wasn't his first language contacted me for an appt. I gave him directions from the intersection in the area of town where I was hosting.

 

While he was still a ways away, he kept getting lost ( maybe the language barrier) but after putting him on the phone with the SP I worked with ( she could speak French) he still didn't follow instructions and even asked me to go in my vehicle 5 kms away and have him follow me! That wasn't going to happen. So he gets onto her street and there is visitor parking. Of course he doesn't listen and parks right in front of her house in the middle of the street where this is a big no no and she has to rush outside to direct him to visitor parking.

 

I found out after the appt that all along he had a GPS in his vehicle and didn't want to enter the SP's address in it because he was with his wife visiting their daughter who lived in the area. Then he said he would just enter his daughter's address on the way back!! Couldn't he just delete the address after the fact? Grrrr!! I took the rest of the day off after that ( lol) because I was in such a bad and frustrated mood!

 

 

This actually reminds me of a story from my early hobby days but in this case if was the SP who I feel was a little less than discrete.

 

I had invited her to an outcall at the hotel I was staying at near the Toronto airport. She texted me upon arrival and came up to the room which is when things got a little odd. She said that she wasn't sure where she should have parked so she left her car in a spot out front of the hotel. She also said that there was a parking machine there but she did not stop to read it to determine if she should pay for parking (it was after 9pm). Instead she came upstairs and asked if I knew. When I said I didn't she insisted I call the front desk and ask if she would get a ticket.

 

I can't remember what lame story I made up at the time but I'm sure the person on the desk really wanted to say "it's ok sir, your escorts car will be fine".