That's too Intimate!!!! Really?

[69candycane69 493]

I have a few questions on my mind that I would love to see how you all feel on this forum. Please read on..it hopefully makes sense what I ask of you.

 

1) Orgasms - Does it matter to the ladies that they orgasm with intercourse or with tongue and digits? I am not always able to do it intercourse way and always manage digits and tongue though. Does that matter to you how you cum? Is it like a Hand Job vs Full Serve for the man?

 

2) Do most ladies enjoy to be massaged by the man instead of giving the massage to the man? I personally love to massage a women and explore every inch of her body. I love to caress and acknowledge each part of her as I slowly move from head to toe. I am sure to kiss her in areas perhaps forgotten by others...neck, shoulders, elbows, back etc..oh don`t worry I stop at the play parks!!

 

3) Many ladies state that kissing is not on the menu, yet end up kissing before the session is over. Just curious if the intimacy of making love instead of having sex triggers that within you? I for one love to kiss when making love and even if it is not dfk or lfk, and simply small pecks on the lips of neck, I am totally satisfied. Do you give in at times too?

 

4) Making love is more about the oral and massage play and less on the intercourse phase for me. Does spending 45 minutes on oral and massage with orgasm, then 15 minutes on intercourse for the man to release, a satisfying visit for you as it is for me? Do others go for more on intercourse and less on play time?

 

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

[piano8950 32577]

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

 

To each their own. I was getting a bj once, and she just reached up, and grabbed my hand. And as bizarre as this may sound, holding hands just seemed too intimate for me. Never mind that there was a completely naked girl giving me a blowjob while I'm wearing nothing as well. I find a grade school act of romance too intimate.

 

I've seen ladies who do not kiss, and it's been a great experience without that. The only issue here is if she advertised those services, or gave you the impression that it was okay. For an SP, I'd hazard a guess saying that it would be standard, but I guess from now own, you know to ask.

 

I'm just wondering if perhaps you may have been expecting more because of this:

 

3) Many ladies state that kissing is not on the menu, yet end up kissing before the session is over.

From my understanding, this is rare. And regardless of how often this happens, it does not indicate future services.

[CristyCurves 169032]

I have a few questions on my mind that I would love to see how you all feel on this forum. Please read on..it hopefully makes sense what I ask of you.

 

1) Orgasms - Does it matter to the ladies that they orgasm with intercourse or with tongue and digits? I am not always able to do it intercourse way and always manage digits and tongue though. Does that matter to you how you cum? Is it like a Hand Job vs Full Serve for the man?

When I am with a client his orgasm is what I concentrate on if he wants to give me one that's a bonus and I'm thrilled. How it happens doesn't matter to me ,so long as he is having fun and is turned on I'm happy;)

 

2) Do most ladies enjoy to be massaged by the man instead of giving the massage to the man? I personally love to massage a women and explore every inch of her body. I love to caress and acknowledge each part of her as I slowly move from head to toe. I am sure to kiss her in areas perhaps forgotten by others...neck, shoulders, elbows, back etc..oh don`t worry I stop at the play parks!!

I like both, but any act is going to depend on the chemistry between me and my client. With some all activities are more intense, with some less intense. Some may not want to be massaged, some will want to do the massaging. Again so long as my client is happy and turned on I most likely will be as well:)

3) Many ladies state that kissing is not on the menu, yet end up kissing before the session is over. Just curious if the intimacy of making love instead of having sex triggers that within you? I for one love to kiss when making love and even if it is not dfk or lfk, and simply small pecks on the lips of neck, I am totally satisfied. Do you give in at times too?

I once stated that I wouldn't kiss, at that time that's what I was comfortable with. Since then I've met some clients who I thoroughly enjoyed kissing, so its now on my menu-gfe-but ymmv, truthfully. If your breath is terrible, bad teeth, cold sores, or possible other reasons kissing and possibly other activities wouldn't be dueable:(

 

4) Making love is more about the oral and massage play and less on the intercourse phase for me. Does spending 45 minutes on oral and massage with orgasm, then 15 minutes on intercourse for the man to release, a satisfying visit for you as it is for me? Do others go for more on intercourse and less on play time?

Again I think that's a hard question for anyone to answer as you want all encounters to be natural, to go with the flow. So to be scripted or to want this or that to happen a certain way may lead to disappointments. With some clients there's been a few minutes of intercourse lots of oral, toy play and massage, mutual masturbation, with others lots of intercourse, less of the others, ect, ect. Its never the same and I love it all;)

 

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

I'm surprised you didn't know what you were getting before you met. I am very open with my clients, what will occur on my sessions is discussed before hand and as long as there are no hygiene or other issues that's what will occur. But never compare or expect services will be the same from provider to provider. We all provide intimacy , but that's where the similarities ends, how where, why, when and with who varies differently and sometimes vastly from provider to provider. The best way to protect yourself from being disappointed is to ask all the questions that will give you an understanding of what you'll be getting, then go , relax and enjoy:)

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

If an SP states that it's too intimate then a client has to respect that. Myself, I enjoy kissing but what you or myself may not see as intimate may in fact be for others.

 

SPs are offering an intimate service already and kissing may be too much for some. It's their body and you can't fault them for that. There are certain things I won't do that other SPs may offer. I suggest that it is best to ask all questions beforehand.

 

If they agree that kissing or other things you are interested in are part of their service and once you're in their company they change their mind and state that it isn't, then the onus is on them. That's bad business.

 

However there is the YMMV clause such as a client having a mouth like a sewer, would you really expect them to do that? If your mouth is fresh as a daisy and she agrees to it beforehand, there shouldn't be any problem.

[Guest ChantalSummers]

Thank you for taking the time and thought to ask these questions, 69candycane69. It's my pleasure to share and answer. I sincerely really appreciate this opportunity.

 

1) Orgasms - Does it matter to the ladies that they orgasm with intercourse or with tongue and digits? I am not always able to do it intercourse way and always manage digits and tongue though. Does that matter to you how you cum? Is it like a Hand Job vs Full Serve for the man?

 

For me when I am with a client, you're my number one priority. I don't even think about myself. I value your time and want to deliver the best experience possible. I place importance on sensuality and exoticness so our encounters are never rushed. Also I like to tailor my style to suit your needs. In my personal life however I don't view intercourse, tongue, or digits the same as a hand job vs full service. For me it's all about chemistry and connection and just enjoying those special moments whatever they may be.

 

 

2) Do most ladies enjoy to be massaged by the man instead of giving the massage to the man? I personally love to massage a women and explore every inch of her body. I love to caress and acknowledge each part of her as I slowly move from head to toe. I am sure to kiss her in areas perhaps forgotten by others...neck, shoulders, elbows, back etc..oh don`t worry I stop at the play parks!!

 

Again same thing, my client's pleasure is my number one priority. However yes I thoroughly enjoy being massaged as well. Just the way you have described the way you personally love to massage is making me feel very hot at the moments. Details are very important to me. It makes me feel very special when a man is thorough and takes his time enjoying every part of my body. I find mutual massages really opens the doors to pure passion and euphoric everlasting pleasure.

 

3) Many ladies state that kissing is not on the menu, yet end up kissing before the session is over. Just curious if the intimacy of making love instead of having sex triggers that within you? I for one love to kiss when making love and even if it is not dfk or lfk, and simply small pecks on the lips of neck, I am totally satisfied. Do you give in at times too?

 

For me kissing of all kinds is on the menu as it's a very important part of my personal GFE. Intimacy in general is very important to me and really allows for a sexy overall vibe.

 

4) Making love is more about the oral and massage play and less on the intercourse phase for me. Does spending 45 minutes on oral and massage with orgasm, then 15 minutes on intercourse for the man to release, a satisfying visit for you as it is for me? Do others go for more on intercourse and less on play time?

 

I value playtime very much. I'm so happy we are on the same page. In my personal life it's rare I've encountered men who will even be willing to engage in foreplay for even 10 minutes. I would say yes this is very satisfying to me. This even sounds like a very passionate mind blowing erotic encounter which is a preference for me. During my sessions again I like to tailor my style to the needs of my client so he is ultimately satisfied. I aim to please and love to make people smile.

[cat 262460]

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

 

Is it too intimate? In some ways, yes it is...

 

For the first 15 years of my career, no kissing or daty was industry wide S.O.P. These were services that were offered only to very trusted regulars at a girls discretion. I couldn't wait to get home and kiss my husband after a long nights work. The kisses were the ignition to me wanting him. It wasn't until I arrived in Canada that I was faced with the fact that clients expect it on the first visit. I loved to kiss but it was a challenge for me because kissing is the most intimate act I participate in and adding it to daily menu desensitized me to it and it has come with a cost in my personal sex life. I can no longer achieve a deeper level of intimacy and connection with personal play partners as I used to and it makes it far less appealing to play simply for fun. If my lips are engaged, I'm all in because I can't separate my kisses from my kitty. This was one of the main reasons for the break down of my marriage altho I didn't recognize it at the time.

 

I genuinely enjoy my work, I can orgasm easily when kissed properly and I love skin but given that guests want access to every part of me, I seldom have any needs left for personal lovers to tend to. It's a win for guests as they get an authentic experience but a loss for me because I have no interest in a sexual relationship on a personal level. Even men who I have amazing connections with on an emotional level never get to first base because my itches have been scratched. Men don't want to cuddle and hang out long term if there's no sugar on the horizon so I don't even bother to try and date.

 

If a provider feels kissing is too intimate, then respect that. She knows what works for her. I wasn't less gratified in my work when I didn't kiss or allow oral, I still loved providing the service and my ensuring my guests left satisfied. They just weren't entitled to every little bit of me for less than a monthly car payment. I didn't realize when I tried to stay competitive that it would come with such an expensive personal pricetag...

 

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[sandimoon 72517]

To each their own. I was getting a bj once, and she just reached up, and grabbed my hand. And as bizarre as this may sound, holding hands just seemed too intimate for me. .

 

Doesn't sound bizarre at all.

Intimacy is subjective. If you felt it was too

much, you have every right to not do it.

SPs aren't the only ones with boundaries.

 

3) Many ladies state that kissing is not on the menu, yet end up kissing before the session is over. Just curious if the intimacy of making love instead of having sex triggers that within you? I for one love to kiss when making love and even if it is not dfk or lfk, and simply small pecks on the lips of neck, I am totally satisfied. Do you give in at times too?

Any woman who would answer

" Yes, I give in"

may as well be wearing a target on her back that says,

"Please ignore my boundaries."

The fact that you use the terminology,

"Give in" is monumentally disconcerting.

No I don't give in.

I do, however, have an expression on my face that

says all I need to convey should any " man "

keep trying to push past my level of comfort.

It says,

" Try that again & you will need a crash course

in how to masturbate with only your feet ".

 

4) Making love is more about the oral and massage play and less on the intercourse phase for me. Does spending 45 minutes on oral and massage with orgasm, then 15 minutes on intercourse for the man to release, a satisfying visit for you as it is for me? Do others go for more on intercourse and less on play time?

 

You are essentially asking professional companions to publicly

breach the confidence of a guest to satisfy, what I can only

ascertain, a very invasive case of carnal curiosity.

My answer to you would be,

"It is none of your business what I do with him."

 

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

 

Yes really. Believe it or not some of us

have a personal life,

we aren't 24/7 on call paid for vagina.

And as shocking as this revelation may be to you,

we are all very different people, ages, body type, hair/eye colour

but mostly, in personality & boundaries.

We weren't created in Petrie dishes & raised on special

Hoochie Farms for God's sake.

 

Now if she promised kissing, daty, whatever & then declined to offer it

in person, only 2 reasons come to mind.

1- She lied to get you there, not cool.

2- Blow into your hand, take a whiff & ask yourself

if you would let that stick it's tongue in your mouth.

 

You also use the term "making love " repeatedly.

As much as I enjoy my time with my guests & really

get off on a lot of the sex, I am not making love to you.

No amount of money you pay me buys my heart.

Period.

If you want a love making session where you will get

the same thing each time, get a girlfriend.

If you don't want that, you need to do a reality check

on your SP expectations coupled with better research.

So to answer more succinctly your thread title,

" That's too intimate? Really?

Yes. Really!!!!

That's what happens when you deal with humans

as opposed to robots.

Sandi

[69candycane69 493]

Hi. Thank you all so far who have commented. Hygiene was and is not an issue with me that's for sure. I guess it was my pre determined concept of GFE that I got caught off guard with. I now ask if it is GFE open minded etc.

[Wolf Knight 29667]

Intimacy is different for everyone. My first visit with an SP I was very excited and had done all my research and knew exactly was and wasn't on the table for the encounter. The lady was an absolute sweetheart but when she moved to offer a BJ I got a bit freaked out by the level of intimacy of the session and wouldn't let her do it. Truthfully, I had expected a colder detached business transaction but what I got was a tender intimate experience. Every part of the session felt "too intimate" for me the first time. After the visit I was able to process the encounter and I was left with a completely different idea of the SP client encounter.

 

Just as every client is different so is the encounter from client to client. Hence YMMV. SP's may be "professionals" but they are PEOPLE first and as such this dictates that they connect to each client in a different way. Some on a more personal or intimate way than others that's just the way it is.

 

Bottom line, this business is not like McDonalds where no matter where you go in the country, the product and service is pretty much the same and can be depended on as such. Each experience is as unique as the lady that is providing it. Forget trying to pigeon hole experiences into what's not intimate enough or too intimate or try to determine a standard of what SP's prefer when they interact with the hundreds of clients they see. Just connect with a lady and enjoy the experience for what it is and be glad everyone is not pulled from the same mould.

[Guest Miss Jane TG]

My last encounter with a lady took me off guard as she indicated that she did not do daty or kiss and did not want to be massaged as it was too intimate as she saves that for her boyfriend. Really? Has anyone else ran into this brick wall before?

 

It is quite often these days that dissatisfied clients take their disappointments with a provider to discussion forums by a way of a negative review etc. Since this is a purely recommendation board, then the issue obviously has to be repackaged to conform to the community standards.

 

Providers are obligated to be authentic in what they advertise for. Therefore, the question really here is not whether kissing (or any other activity) is considered intimate as this is a very subjective matter, but rather whether the provider you ran into failed to live up for her promises.

 

If you look at the websites of most escorts, you will find the ladies clearly stating what they offer routinely and on discretionary basis. Also, there is always a room for a asking questions before the rendezvous to make sure that everybody is on the same page. To make an assumption based on your previous experience with another provider would be, in my view, your fault and not the provider's fault.

 

You have proposed some questions in your thread that will lead to highly variable answers given their subjective nature. If the point is to make a consensus on the issue then I am afraid that this business doesn't operate in such a way. Luckily we are not regulated yet!

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

I should listen to my inner voice telling me not to comment until you calm down but this is a pet peeve of mine.

 

This is my own point of view and I realize we all have different POV's but I find some hobbyists expectations on GFE are beyond the pale. Anyone who expects an SP to give the most emotional part of her during an encounter is being grossly unfair. Whatever that part is, kissing, daty or whatever else she would prefer to hold back and keep personal. Maybe in marketing a "girlfriend experience" it has come to signify something that no man should expect from any woman he sees in this context. Is it fair to say "your body is not enough, I want a real connection too"! This paid transaction should never be about anything more than a "physical" encounter. If you want an emotional connection, get a girlfriend or mistress... and good luck with that!

 

My apologies if this offends people. It's my own personal opinion on something I feel strongly about.

[69candycane69 493]

Steve....

 

Whether it be a mistress, a girlfriend, a wife or a service provider, I will treat the lady like the most expensive piece of fine china their is to handle within our physical or emotional encounter. I would not want any lady that I see to feel like, while with me, that she is only a service provider and all she is good to me for is her vagina. Thus the reason I like to make love and not just have sex. Thus my questions I asked. Thank you to all who have answered..very informative. Can't wait to meet some of you.

 

When accessing the ladies most intimate area on her body because, I have paid to go there, or after an evening out on the town, she invites me to go there, I take nothing for granted and respect both invitations to the highest of honors. I covet the trust that they place with me to go to their coveted place we all want to go too as men.

 

"Ladies first".... is my model.....ensuring they feel like miss universe when with me..... is my mission.

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Hey friend,

 

I was speaking to the board in general and didn't mean for you to think I was speaking to you directly. You just got the ball rolling for me with your original post "That's too intimate!! Really??", that's all. Many of us hold onto unreasonable expectations when we first venture into this lifestyle. I know I do.

 

Live and learn. By the way, I prefer putting a broad on a pedestal to treating them like fine china. They're quite durable. :) Just meant as a good natured jab. Sorry.

 

Take care and enjoy your time here.

[steveyK 4311]

Hey guy no ranting haha, but candycane, do you know the difference between making love and having sex? Obviously not, or you wouldn't keep saying it on this thread!

I just posted on a similar thread last week, I think I said 'if you want a girlfiend to share your life with, this is not the place to find her' so I just repeated it here for you.....

Take note of what the responses have been here, and continue to show the respect you claim to to the SPs, and when you're with them for an encounter whisper in their ear'I'm going to make love to you now' and I'll bet they will respond in the affirmative, because it is your fantasy....but don't think that you actually are making love, sorry

Mr Mcqueen, you have nothing to apologize for, you played it with a cool hand, luke...

 

Life is good today, don't waste a minute of it!!

 

Additional Comments:

Hey guy no ranting haha, but candycane, do you know the difference between making love and having sex? Obviously not, or you wouldn't keep saying it on this thread!

I just posted on a similar thread last week, I think I said 'if you want a girlfiend to share your life with, this is not the place to find her' so I just repeated it here for you.....

Take note of what the responses have been here, and continue to show the respect you claim to to the SPs, and when you're with them for an encounter whisper in their ear'I'm going to make love to you now' and I'll bet they will respond in the affirmative, because it is your fantasy....but don't think that you actually are making love, sorry

Mr Mcqueen, you have nothing to apologize for, you played it with a cool hand, luke...

 

Life is good today, don't waste a minute of it!!