yet another std/sti question/poll

[d*mm*y 887]

I am wondering how many of you have had "the call" from a friend or local health agency telling you that they have had an STD and you should get yourself checked?

 

As we know "no one" around here has ever had an STD (I think there is some truth to this but it does wonder about all those that stay silent or some lying)

 

This is an easier question and will give a good gauge to prevalence.

[Guest S***e]

Nope...no calls to me Dummpy. And, as previously stated, no STI/STDs over the years as borne out by regular testing.

[Akhenaton 221]

Same here.

 

Did you only mean a call if you have and std/sti, or that someone you were with had one and YOU should get checked ? Might just be my weekend brain going weird on me... ;)

[YoungStud 468]

Same here.

 

Did you only mean a call if you have and std/sti, or that someone you were with had one and YOU should get checked ? Might just be my weekend brain going weird on me... ;)

 

I think Dummpy meant the latter.

 

Once someone tests positive for an STD/STI, there is both a moral obligation to inform personally, and a legal one to provide the health care system with a list of, all sexual partners you've had direct contact with in the past three months. You have to provide the public health care system with their contact info so that a public health nurse can get in touch with them and advise them to be tested for STD/STIs. Even if you've told them personally, the public health system will want to follow up to verify.

 

If you're really conscientious, if you've had indirect contact (did an MMFF or whatever), you probably want to make sure those individuals are informed as well, even though the health care system requires you to report only direct contacts.

[Guest s******ecan****]

"You have to provide the public health care system with their contact info so that a public health nurse can get in touch with them and advise them to be tested for STD/STIs. Even if you've told them personally, the public health system will want to follow up to verify."

 

So how are we supposed to do this when it comes to the SP's, since we do not know their real names? Can we just tell the Health Dept we only got the girls first name (ie drunken one nighter).

[Annessa 22743]

"You have to provide the public health care system with their contact info so that a public health nurse can get in touch with them and advise them to be tested for STD/STIs. Even if you've told them personally, the public health system will want to follow up to verify."

 

So how are we supposed to do this when it comes to the SP's, since we do not know their real names? Can we just tell the Health Dept we only got the girls first name (ie drunken one nighter).

 

as long as you can provide them with their contacts (email, phone number) so that the escort can be contacted it does not matter if the name you know (most likely her working name) matches their real name that they have to then later provide. heck they dont even care if you're an escort....as long as you follow through and go get tested, so no need to make up any excuse as to why the name isn't correct, health Canada wont question you or your lady

[d*mm*y 887]

Annessa is correct, also the police don't care if you are an escort as some ladies here can attest to (they have asked for police assistance and recieved cooperation), the only people that will have issue are revenue Canada however as long as you declare some income they don't care either, you can even declare as an Escort.

[JoyfulC 132299]

I have been phoned a couple times -- and every time, I had to cancel all appointments until I got checked out. I always checked out clean. So essentially, I took a hit for a figment of someone else's imagination.

 

Unfortunately, there are some mentally weak characters around who have their fun and only afterward begin to think about what might have gone wrong. Paranoia sets in, and next thing you know, they're imagining symptoms. But they don't go to their doctor or local clinic -- no. They phone the SP and suggest that SHE should! This is extremely irresponsible.

 

The last time it happened was in the mid-90s. The activities involved weren't such that it would be likely to result in any transmission of any kind. But I get the call. I asked him why he didn't go in and get checked before phoning me, and he said something to the effect of "I dunno..." Real cerebral! I got checked, no problem -- except for the loss and inconvenience it caused me. A few months later, he phones to make an appointment. I asked him what happened when he went in to get checked, and he says he didn't bother, since I didn't get back to him to let him know I had tested positive! Outrageous! And even then, I think he was shocked when I told him I didn't ever want to see him again.

 

Back in the 70s, one of my clients phoned me up one day, screaming and threatening me, because I gave him the clap and he gave it to his wife. I went and got tested. Negative. I got treated the same day I got tested on this guy's word that he had tested positive. The calls and harassment continued -- and back in those days, the cops were pretty unsympathetic. Then abruptly they stopped. A few months went by and he calls me up all nicey-nice for an appointment. I was shocked! After explicitly describing how he was going to beat and kill me in raging phone calls at all hours of the day and night, did he really think I'd agree to see him again? Oh that. He explained. Shortly after the last time he'd seen me, he had sex with his wife. A few days later, he developed symptoms. Believing his wife to be faithful, and since I was a pro, he assumed that I'd given it to him and he gave it to his wife. He confessed to her that he'd seen a prostitute, and they got treated. But turns out, wifey had a boyfriend, which of course she didn't mention during the confession phase of the deal. Wife didn't tell boyfriend. A little while later, wife is with boyfriend again, then comes home and sleeps with husband -- guess what? Reinfection!

 

So frankly, although it's rare, my experiences have led me to believe that getting a call from someone isn't a reliable indicator. If it were the health agency, that would be different.

[d*mm*y 887]

I have been phoned a couple times -- and every time, I had to cancel all appointments until I got checked out. I always checked out clean. So essentially, I took a hit for a figment of someone else's imagination.

 

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So frankly, although it's rare, my experiences have led me to believe that getting a call from someone isn't a reliable indicator. If it were the health agency, that would be different.

 

I was originally thinking the question would for the "the call" from someone who tested positive, however I have heard and seen many people do the "oh they got tested and are fine" and therefore assume they are fine. This is not good enough you should have your own regime and stick to it.

 

As for the original poll question I do mean the number of legitimate calls with the caller having a confirmed case.

[JoyfulC 132299]

Oh! I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. I think I misunderstood the question to be 'have you ever been called?' instead of 'have you ever legitimately been called?' As is probably obvious, the calls from those who have guilty minds and imaginary symptoms that justify them putting me out of commission for a few days, but not enough to go get tested themselves, are a touchy subject with me. I often wonder if they're too embarrassed to go, and figure they'll have me go first to see if it's really necessary. Sort of like the canary in the coal mine.

 

Dummpy, forgive me, but you seem inordinately concerned with the health issue. You once mentioned that your family doctor refused to treat you as frequently as you wanted even when he knew why you felt such frequency was necessary. If you've never tested positive for anything and always take precautions, do you think perhaps you could be overdoing it a little? Granted, it's a very important issue and one we all face here -- but you seem obsessed with it to a degree I've rarely seen.

[d*mm*y 887]

Oh! I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. I think I misunderstood the question to be 'have you ever been called?' instead of 'have you ever legitimately been called?' As is probably obvious, the calls from those who have guilty minds and imaginary symptoms that justify them putting me out of commission for a few days, but not enough to go get tested themselves, are a touchy subject with me. I often wonder if they're too embarrassed to go, and figure they'll have me go first to see if it's really necessary. Sort of like the canary in the coal mine.

 

Dummpy, forgive me, but you seem inordinately concerned with the health issue. You once mentioned that your family doctor refused to treat you as frequently as you wanted even when he knew why you felt such frequency was necessary. If you've never tested positive for anything and always take precautions, do you think perhaps you could be overdoing it a little? Granted, it's a very important issue and one we all face here -- but you seem obsessed with it to a degree I've rarely seen.

 

You were not hijacking the thread at all, infact after I posted I thought I may have inadvertently pointed a finger at you, this type of behavior is another example of the harassment that SP's face on an ongoing basis. (the calls from dummies that don't know if they have an STD but want you to get checked)

 

As for my thing about STD/STI's it is just that this is one of the things that people keep blowing out of proportion, it is one of the classic ways that people try to manipulate others in and around the business. Last spring someone told some of the SP's that I was seeing that I had a disease and they should stay away, this rumor pissed me off. Now I suspect another member is telling the ladies that the dangers are very real and they should avoid being an SP because of it.

 

I believe the best way to confront this is with information, I am not obsessed with STD/STI's I am obsessed with people blowing them out of proportion! At the same time if I pipe in and say that it is not a huge concern than I am the bad guy for downplaying the risk?? It's a lose lose situation however I am hoping with enough real world information we can dispel the myths that "30% of the population has an STD". When I do my online research I find a lot of the really scary sites are sponsored by born again christian organizations in the southern states or using data from underdeveloped countries in Africa etc... Ya you can find a lot of scary stuff about anything on the web but lets consider the source. Have a look at the various polls I have done, it is clear that cerb and Ottawa and the escort part of the industry are very clean and safe? Or we are a bunch of liars. I know I have had sexual encounters with well over 1000 people so just me alone as a statistics speaks volumes.

[JoyfulC 132299]

Oh yes, I agree with you on that! In fact, some of the stuff coming out of the States these days is mind boggling. Some of the Christians down there are morphing into Taliban-like critters!

 

Just this morning, I was reading that a movie about Darwin can't find a distributor in the US because so many of these Christian types have decided that evolution is bunk and that Darwin is an evil man. ??? And elsewhere, I read that they have a "Creation" museum where Christian parents can take their kids for a day of dumbing down, totally confusing them on anything they might learn in science class. It's absolutely unbelievable.

 

And, like the Taliban, while Christians make a great show of respecting women, it's a facade. Women are cherished and protected -- as long as they're good little chihuahuas and behave their masters. Jimmy Carter recently turned his back on his Southern Baptist church after deciding that Christianity -- as with most major religions -- at its heart doesn't truly view woman as a man's equal in god's eyes.

 

So what you're saying is, if we can prove by demonstrating that we're testing clean, repeatedly for years, with myriad sex partners, we might convince someone? Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working with climate change, evolution, and countless other issues. Some people are determined to steadfastly remain ignorant in the face of heaps of evidence. And many of those same people will continue to distribute misinformation and stigmatize SPs for their choices. There's an old saying in skydiving: "You ask me why I skydive. For those who've done it, no explanation is necessary. For those who haven't, no explanation is possible." Might be the same with us!

 

But definitely, I admire you for taking it on! Bravo!

[d*mm*y 887]

This poll seems to follow suit with the information I get when I go to the clinic, a very small percentage of the populations is getting infected. Lets face it if 30% of people were getting infected than 100% of us would have some calls from the clinic or friends. Yes they exist yes we must be vigilant, is it a serious issues with the hobby, clearly not. Can someone make it through life without ever getting an STD/STI it looks very likely. Lets try to ger a good triple digit survey.

[Guest S***e]

That said, I wonder how many people who have symtoms are being responsible and are getting tested and how many are simply not getting tested and are ignoring it to their detriment and that of others? Also, there are those who show no symptoms yet have an infection. Perhaps this is an X-factor. And Dummpy I for one do not think you are "the bad guy" for raising this issue. Yes, I too agree that someone can make it though life without contracting an STD/STI.

 

This poll seems to follow suit with the information I get when I go to the clinic, a very small percentage of the populations is getting infected. Lets face it if 30% of people were getting infected than 100% of us would have some calls from the clinic or friends. Yes they exist yes we must be vigilant, is it a serious issues with the hobby, clearly not. Can someone make it through life without ever getting an STD/STI it looks very likely. Lets try to ger a good triple digit survey.

[d*mm*y 887]

That said, I wonder how many people who have symtoms are being responsible and are getting tested and how many are simply not getting tested and are ignoring it to their detriment and that of others? Also, there are those who show no symptoms yet have an infection. Perhaps this is an X-factor. And Dummpy I for one do not think you are "the bad guy" for raising this issue. Yes, I too agree that someone can make it though life without contracting an STD/STI.

 

I thought about that last spring when the issue was first used to separate me from some of my favorites. However it is kind of like my kids at head lice (if you have kids you have probably had to deal with it) if one kid in the class does not get it looked after they just keep reoccurring. If indeed STD/STI spread that easily and there infected among us we would all have these nasty infections.

[Annessa 22743]

I thought about that last spring when the issue was first used to separate me from some of my favorites. However it is kind of like my kids at head lice (if you have kids you have probably had to deal with it) if one kid in the class does not get it looked after they just keep reoccurring. If indeed STD/STI spread that easily and there infected among us we would all have these nasty infections.

 

this is too funny...I had the same drama when my kid recently agot his hair cut and was itching his newly buzzed "do" at school.....one of the teachers mentioned head lice and I quickly got him checked with the school nurse...nothing but I explained he just had a haircut.....then one of the parents reamed me out one day while picking him up saying there was a rumour my kid had lice between the children and the woman pointed a finger at me and my son....who was just itchy! lol

 

This was right around the time I got my "call" from an infected client (despite me being negative)...there are many who will finger-point and try to imagine where it came from instead of going through the motions regularily and not only when symptoms arise

 

even then I kinda laughed, they're KIDS! and turns out this other kid didnt even HAVE head lice but was just allergic to a new shampoo! lol

 

sorry had to share my story as this is exactly what I thought about when that mother accused my son of giving her daughter head-lice. so many people are so quick to jump to conclusions, what they should be doing is protecting themselves and their loved ones by doing proper checks...whether it be for head-lice...or STDs, we are all responsible for our own bodies (in the case of the 8-year-old, the parents are, but you know what I mean)

[Guest S***e]

Dummpy and Annessa:

 

I just get fleas! LOL

[Andee 220524]

I know a client who went to see an SP and is pretty sure he got bitten by bed bugs at her place. Fortunately she's not around anymore, but that would be scary, bringing bed bugs home.

[d*mm*y 887]

As I look at this poll I think the subject is rather insignificant, less than 100 responses. I guess I was making a mountain out of a moll hill, like any Hobby we accept the risks. And if we were dropping off like flies do to these issues there would be a lot less of us around.

[Guest S***e]

Dummpy: I think your concerns are legitimate. Raising this issue or keeping it in the spotlight will encourage people who are involved in the hobby to be aware of the potential risks and that they should be proactive in their health (and that of their clients if they are SPs). I am at a loss to explain the lack of response as I am not in their heads. Issues like this should not be overlooked or ignored. I am of the view that the people here on CERB are intelligent and responsible in that they are well-informed and do what is right for them and for others...perhaps there are exceptions, however and I hope they will increase their awareness if they are going to play. Just my take on it for what it's worth.

 

 

 

As I look at this poll I think the subject is rather insignificant, less than 100 responses. I guess I was making a mountain out of a moll hill, like any Hobby we accept the risks. And if we were dropping off like flies do to these issues there would be a lot less of us around.

[Guest s******ecan****]

As I look at this poll I think the subject is rather insignificant, less than 100 responses. I guess I was making a mountain out of a moll hill, like any Hobby we accept the risks. And if we were dropping off like flies do to these issues there would be a lot less of us around.

 

I don't think you should feel bad about bringing this up from time to time. Its much better to have the discussion than to stick our heads in the sand and pretend the issue doesen't exist. I for one appreciate the posts (number of responses may be low but many of the posts are from senior members so the credibility factor is high) and threads on this subject. If anything the remind me that there are risks, that those risks need to be taken into account and managed, but not to to be overly paranoid about them.

[PistolPete 61421]

I quickly voted when first posted(never contacted either way), everybody has commented, basically stating same as I would of...good poll..great comments. I don't think the issue in insignificant.I get checked every 3 months myself.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

As I look at this poll I think the subject is rather insignificant, less than 100 responses...

 

Of the 62 general-interest polls I see on Cerb (by searching on "poll"), the median number of voters is 50. Dummpy's two STD/STI polls have 92 and 72 voters (this poll so far, even though it's only been up 4 days). So this is an issue that does attract above-average interest and voter-turn-out. Thanks dummpy!

 

(Appendix --Number of respondents to Cerb polls:)

 

157 What is your most favorite sex act?

148 Valued Member Award Aug 2008

116 cougar or kitten

110 How important is the cleanliness of a incall to you?

106 Valued Member Award July 2009

100 how old are you........really.....

100 Hobbiest's Age

92 Have you ever contracted an STD/STI

85 What is your relationship status?

85 How many Sex Providers have you slept with?

83 Your hobby: how much per month?

82 CERB Client Annual Income

80 Men - How do you like your BJ?

78 Number of Sexual Partners

72 How many time have you been called by someone to get checked for an STD/STI (THIS POLL)

71 Hobbyiest personal life

69 How many times did your SP orgasm during your session?

67 SP Award Vote Feb 2009

66 How do you think about older women?

62 Is deep throat rare?

62 How often to you visit SP's/MP's

61 Does BJ type offered affect your hobbying decsisons

60 How often do you visit CERB?

54 How often do you visit a SP?

54 Do you prefer smoker or not smoker

53 How long a session do you book?

52 At What Age Did You Lose Your Virginity?

51 What does your Cum taste like?

51 Should "Who left reputation" be anonymous or not?

50 agency vs. indie

50 Which Week(s) of the month are you most likely to Hobby?

48 Valued Member Award Nov 2008

47 Shemale.....t-girl

46 What position would you pick

45 Hobbiests: do you use real or fake names

42 What do you prefer? independent/agency

42 Nails - Your preference?

41 Do you remove your wedding ring when you see a provider?

40 Group activities you have participated in?

39 ever wondered if your MA kissed u good night after givin your PA a blow job?

38 Men-Are you nipple sensitive?

38 Which hand do you masturbate with?

35 Do you have preference for a weekend or weekday date?

35 What type of visit arrangments will you consider

33 What is your religion?

29 SP Award Vote Aug 2008

29 Do you prefer to have the lights on or off

27 Polls...do you....don't you...who cares.....

26 SP's personal life

24 Why do you partake in the hobby?

24 Chat Software on CERB? Interested?

23 How many times per month do you see an escort?

22 Providers: how many no shows do you have in a week?

22 Do you prefer a massage or a escort

20 What is the most favorite sex act for our ladies

18 special information section

16 Is Downtown parking an issue when choosing an SP?

11 Do you mind having an entercourse with a smoker

10 Ladies: Shaved men?

9 Any Vancouver Hobbyists here?

9 Shout Out Box

1 cum inside or outside

[d*mm*y 887]

Of the 62 general-interest polls I see on Cerb (by searching on "poll"), the median number of voters is 50. Dummpy's two STD/STI polls have 92 and 72 voters (this poll so far, even though it's only been up 4 days). So this is an issue that does attract above-average interest and voter-turn-out. Thanks dummpy!

 

 

WOW that is an impressive list good work!!

[d*mm*y 887]

The polls about how much we make and how much we spend also seem to be popular (looking at the average)