Showing your face pictures

[Fresh start 17467]

For someone who solely considers seeing a woman by her appearance photo can be deceiving. With photoshop, make-up and even professional photography it's easily enhanced or you see what they want you to see. My point is you should never judge a book by its cover, it doesn't mean you can't have a face shot.

As for me it not a deal breaker. Beside I like it when the door open and my jaw drops to the ground. I like to chose who I see more on personality and if I think we are going to clic.

 

Btw for those who do chose have face shot. I admire your courage and you have my upmost respect.

[sandimoon 72517]

I have immense respect for ladies who show their faces.

It's fearless & emits such confidence that I am in awe.

My photos consist of partial profile shots,

ones that show only my eyes,

my hair or a hat covering my face,

or just a smile.

My hope is that this is a good start where the description I offer can be

seen as true by a gentleman, as best I can.

But showing my whole face is simply not in my comfort zone.

I love what I do, my friends & sister know,

but I also have other work in the public sector.

It isn't about me being confronted but the where it could happen.

I can't have that discussion at work.

And while I have bumped into a few clients in my private life, they

have always been discreet since, insofar as privacy,

they had more to lose.

That isn't the case if some random person saw me on the net.

And my photos are not altered so they look exactly like I do every day.

But even if the above were not a consideration,

the most honest reason is that if I were to be outted, as it were,

I have 2 parents that don't know.

Would they still love me?

Of course.

I was raised a great deal overseas where escorting is not only

legal, protected & structured, some ladies pay more taxes

than doctors & lawyers.

Neither has ever said a disparaging word about women this industry

& believe the Canada & the U.S. models & views to be puritanical & idiotic.

But I am in Vancouver & given our sad history of issues

involving women in this business, they would worry non stop.

So I just don't think they need to know & I certainly don't

need to feel I've stressed them into a heart attack.

But to the ladies that are out & proud,

major kudos for your bravery.

Sandi

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

I would like to say thank you to everyone for their insight, input and thoughts on this. It makes me feel so good to have people to bounce ideas off of and hear other perspectives.

 

Everyone, in one way or another was able to articulate exactly how I feel about this.

 

Thank you again!

 

xoxo

[sandimoon 72517]

A while back an SP elsewhere stated that she was thinking of introducing BBBJ to increase her business.

I said this same thing to her:

whatever you, or any woman decides for that matter,

it needs to be for you, by you & as a result of careful consideration,

an educated choice, weighing the pros & cons & most importantly,

is it one you can live with?

Don't base this decision on any pressure from outside,

be it men or another SP & certainly don't do it for the money.

When we choose any path that is vastly different to the

one we are on now out of need as opposed to want,

it rarely ends well.

In the end, no one else will be dealing with the consequences but you.

And that means any change you make, not just photos.

Good luck.

Sandi

[Guest **cely***r***ne]

Interesting thread...

I have showed my face from the beginning, and now reading some of these comments I somewhat cringed once with what Emily J said about having kids...

I have a son now and I'm thinking ahead to the future...IF he ever becomes a hobbyiest...(I think of everything lol) and if he somehow stumbles across a picture...hmmmm That will be an explanation for the books.

But by then maybe the stigma will have worn off...we are all but people striving to live and live while we can. And there is nothing wrong IMO with doing what we must (within reason) to make a better life for our families. I would feel far worse about everything if I was making a profit from illegal substances....But really though this is my job, my career and it is paying my bills and giving my son everything he needs (and more)

How many of you actually LOVE your job haha! I doooo! neener neener.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

I suspect I am watching too much Border Security.....Those guys go through everything.

 

For those that are worried that I am feeling pressured to do something I am not comfortable with, I stand strong. I thank you for your support and its not like I am feeling that I have to show my face. If you don't want to see me without a face pic, there is someone else that wants to see me without it.

 

I just googled my name, and am happy with what I see. I am doing well.

 

xoxo

[Fresh start 17467]

I think that is really brave for some women to go online with their face. I think it is giving a lot out. I also wonder how people feel about pictures and videos of a sexual nature. I'm sorry but I'm a little on the fence about these. Although, I'm all for a woman being liberal with their sexuality, I wonder if this can hurt the woman if she wants to get a job or even her personal private life. I guess I would like to read about the opinion of those who have chosen to do this. As fortunate one has expressed, all I hope for is that those who do this are happy about their choices and are fully aware that once these videos/pictures are online they can not be taken down.

 

I just wanna say that I'm sure some people have been affected, when getting a new job, but I think its outrageous and unprofessional to even judge someone on past unrelated jobs. To not hire someone because they used to be an escort or in any other erotic field is discrimination in my books. If your qualified for the position and you are professional about it an employer should have no right to not hire you. Unfortunately our world still has narrow minded arrogant people.

[Guest]

I think that is really brave for some women to go online with their face. I think it is giving a lot out. I also wonder how people feel about pictures and videos of a sexual nature. I'm sorry but I'm a little on the fence about these. Although, I'm all for a woman being liberal with their sexuality, I wonder if this can hurt the woman if she wants to get a job or even her personal private life. I guess I would like to read about the opinion of those who have chosen to do this. As fortunate one has expressed, all I hope for is that those who do this are happy about their choices and are fully aware that once these videos/pictures are online they can not be taken down.

 

A while back an SP elsewhere stated that she was thinking of introducing BBBJ to increase her business.

I said this same thing to her:

whatever you, or any woman decides for that matter,

it needs to be for you, by you & as a result of careful consideration,

an educated choice, weighing the pros & cons & most importantly,

is it one you can live with?

Don't base this decision on any pressure from outside,

be it men or another SP & certainly don't do it for the money.

When we choose any path that is vastly different to the

one we are on now out of need as opposed to want,

it rarely ends well.

In the end, no one else will be dealing with the consequences but you.

And that means any change you make, not just photos.

Good luck.

Sandi

 

I just wanna say that I'm sure some people have been affected, when getting a new job, but I think its outrageous and unprofessional to even judge someone on past unrelated jobs. To not hire someone because they used to be an escort or in any other erotic field is discrimination in my books. If your qualified for the position and you are professional about it an employer should have no right to not hire you. Unfortunately our world still has narrow minded arrogant people.

 

I think Sandimoon said it the best. Whatever you do should be for you, by you, after careful consideration. Actually everything she said about this was bang on. That's all I hope for people.

 

Unfortunately, pictures. video's, ect, may effect someone from being hired. Maybe in ten years or so we may be able to write our escort business on our resumes. I don't think you would be seeing escort resumes any day soon, though, but I don't see why not.

[piano8950 32577]

I just wanna say that I'm sure some people have been affected, when getting a new job, but I think its outrageous and unprofessional to even judge someone on past unrelated jobs. To not hire someone because they used to be an escort or in any other erotic field is discrimination in my books. If your qualified for the position and you are professional about it an employer should have no right to not hire you. Unfortunately our world still has narrow minded arrogant people.

 

A city as liberal as NYC has an issue with one of it's candidates sending a penis picture to some lady. Nevermind it has nothing to do with his leadership skills, his value as a politician or anything of that matter. OMFG! THAT'S A PENIS!!

 

I suspect I am watching too much Border Security.....Those guys go through everything.

 

That show is very deceptive. On one of my trips back to Canada, I came to realize how little information these people actually have. It's more on instinct and guess work. The best thing is a confident demeanor, a pleasant smile, patience/tolerance for rudeness, and common sense.

 

Without going into too many details, I know someone who works across the border frequently without the right papers. Has her website with her face, and her intentions and her name. Nothing. It's just not feasible for border control to background check everyone.

 

 

Going back to the face pictures, I've always wondered that myself. I've seen one SP with her face pictures, the rest of them did not have one, and I would've seen the one with a face picture even if it wasn't available. So there you go. I do wonder if they decide to do something later on in life, are they worried about the repercussions? (if any)

[Regent 35404]

I endeavour to be out about all aspects of my life and for the most part I am. Maintaining closets and multiple identities tends to stress me out.

 

That said, I don't have face photos up because I'm not fully out about this part of my life. I'm not ashamed about it at all, but I don't feel like I've fully assessed the possible long term consequences of being out and had time to get really comfortable with the possibilities. My primary concern is tarnishing the public image of an organization that I'm heavily involved in, should I be out. Another concern is working in a community that really buys into the stigma around sex work.

 

Once I've sorted out my conflicts around how this part of my life integrates with the others I may choose to put face pics up, but for now, I'm not going to.

[Frank7 3939]

Regarding problems in future jobs, that's sadly a reality. Even if it's discrimination, it's even accepted. Just think of the 2-3 stories of high school teacher or secretary that did porn. Porn is "fully" legal, but when it got out, they all got fired, never mind that the students couldn't legally watch the porn.

 

And I'm sure there's other examples in other type of jobs. =(

[xxxAxxx 21016]

Just wanted to point out that if you have tattoos and post pictures with them showing, your publicly displaying your identity just the same as you would with a face shot.

 

 

I understand the reasons why some SPs don't post their faces (or tattoos), and that is their choice and they have every right to continue doing so. But as Emily J stated earlier in the thread, some of us are open with friends and family about what we do, and have no reason to mask our identities. Since face photos seem to not be a deal-breaker for most gents, I guess it's just a bonus when a girl does have 'em! ;)

 

And out of curiosity.... How many gents here would turn down hiring a potential secretary (just ONE example) whom they know to have previously been an SP? I just don't see any man on earth saying this to any woman: "I'm sorry, I cannot hire you because I've seen you in a porn flick before"

YA RIGHT! If anything, I'd be more worried about my boss expecting "extras" that aren't part of the job description....

[Guest]

Just wanted to point out that if you have tattoos and post pictures with them showing, your publicly displaying your identity just the same as you would with a face shot.

 

 

I understand the reasons why some SPs don't post their faces (or tattoos), and that is their choice and they have every right to continue doing so. But as Emily J stated earlier in the thread, some of us are open with friends and family about what we do, and have no reason to mask our identities. Since face photos seem to not be a deal-breaker for most gents, I guess it's just a bonus when a girl does have 'em! ;)

 

I guess I agree and disagree with you about tattoos. I would be willing to show my tattoos in pictures but not my face because my tattoos can be easily hidden under cloths. However, if I had tattoos on visible parts of my body I would for sure blur them out.

[PistolPete 61421]

@xXxAxXx ........Re-Jobs future AND Years back,

 

I hired a lady that told me in our interview process she was a former "entertainer" and was out of the business but also had some office experience, (my thought back then,she was a dancer).

 

I hired her as she was very professional about it, up front and no BS. Again that was probably 18-20 years ago. I never had any day to day dealings with her, but her co-workers and Supervisor said she was a great employee.

 

Later I found out she was not a dancer but a service provider, and she wasn't shy to let others know, as she needed the job to raise her 2 kids.

 

 

I think people need to take the binders off for a second, and look at the individual who you are hiring or in fact if you are hiring a contractor,

 

a) Your gut feeling about their personality and determination

b) what skills they have to offer

c) experience how their past experience will assist you

d) how can they be a valuable asset to you or your business.

 

 

The other issue about tattoo's is that in the workplace today is changing dramatically over from the past years .

 

It used to be taboo to hire, or the individual show any type of ink, but I find that society is accepting it more and more in the workplace. I know every time I'm in the bank, there is tellers with some ink shown, or in restaurants, your own personal trainer etc etc etc etc I'm sure we all see it today.

 

I think we have come a long way for acceptance of tattoo's and even some piercings in the workplace. I hope that in years to come as well, it will be NOT something it was years ago discriminated against.

 

 

As for ladies blurring their face, to each their own and what ever they feel comfortable with.

[Cleo Catra 178382]

On the facial recognition thing - I've had face pictures out and openly been an escort for three years, and have gone to the States at least a dozen times, probably more actually, during that time. I've never had a problem.

 

I do understand completely why many chose not to show their face, but I honestly don't think worry about crossing to the States should be a deterrent.

 

For future jobs... I do get it. And I 100% respect peoples choices and hope the gentlemen always respect that some women keep their face private. But not long ago I had someone tell me that if I really do want to start a bakery in the future, I should get my face photos off the internet. That it would ruin my ability to open MY OWN bakery one day. I basically told him to go fuck himself. I am a businesswoman now, and will be in the future with my bakery. If someone won't come buy my cupcakes because they know I've been an escort, then sucks to be them. I will *not* be shamed for what I do.

[McGuinessDraft 2240]

But not long ago I had someone tell me that if I really do want to start a bakery in the future, I should get my face photos off the internet. That it would ruin my ability to open MY OWN bakery one day. I basically told him to go fuck himself. I am a businesswoman now, and will be in the future with my bakery. If someone won't come buy my cupcakes because they know I've been an escort, then sucks to be them. I will *not* be shamed for what I do.

 

+1

 

Running a personal business is running a business regardless of product. On a side note I'd eat your cupcakes everyday Cleo ;)

[Guest S***ley Mu**]

Well said CC.

[piano8950 32577]

And out of curiosity.... How many gents here would turn down hiring a potential secretary (just ONE example) whom they know to have previously been an SP? I just don't see any man on earth saying this to any woman: "I'm sorry, I cannot hire you because I've seen you in a porn flick before"

YA RIGHT!

 

I know a few, but those are the religious hypocritical types. But to take an example of a porn actress, there have been a few stories of female teachers being fired for their other 'inappropriate' profession. Never mind that it had nothing to do with teaching children Math or the ABCs.

 

I'd like to think that Canada is more progressive, but I believe the last iteration of this story came from a Montreal school (I have to confirm this). And the sad part is that at least schools are brutally honest. Corporations can claim a different reason and go about their merry way. I'm hoping that in the private job market, things are much better, but who knows?

[PistolPete 61421]

Cupcakes, and no not those guys...the actually baked cupcakes Cleo has made for me, they are simply delicious :) and I would walk to your bakery anytime!

 

p.s. I love your other cupcake too :) meeeooow!

 

 

 

 

 

On the facial recognition thing - I've had face pictures out and openly been an escort for three years, and have gone to the States at least a dozen times, probably more actually, during that time. I've never had a problem.

 

I do understand completely why many chose not to show their face, but I honestly don't think worry about crossing to the States should be a deterrent.

 

For future jobs... I do get it. And I 100% respect peoples choices and hope the gentlemen always respect that some women keep their face private. But not long ago I had someone tell me that if I really do want to start a bakery in the future, I should get my face photos off the internet. That it would ruin my ability to open MY OWN bakery one day. I basically told him to go fuck himself. I am a businesswoman now, and will be in the future with my bakery. If someone won't come buy my cupcakes because they know I've been an escort, then sucks to be them. I will *not* be shamed for what I do.

[cat 262460]

Consider this a cautionary tale...

 

I have been declined positions pouring coffee, answering phones and cleaning houses in the not so distant past because I was outed as a "former" sex worker which popped up when my government name was googled. I've been told I'm "unemployable" and can't even volunteer my time with any reputable charities that aren't sex work related.

 

One never knows what the future will bring and the stigma will be there whether your life is going well or not. If a provider ends up in front of a judge, potential employer or landlord who know their history or their present; it's a high probability that it isn't going to end well. The real threat isn't from the casual cruiser of the internet recognizing us on the street but from those closest to us handing over the damaging links to hurt us. The ex husbands, boyfriends, best friends, roomies and less than loved family members are the most dangerous. My Canadian notoriety happened because my FATHER outed my decade old history to the Globe and Mail. Please, ladies who are considering showing their faces; don't make the decision lightly. It can never be undone...

 

cat

[sandimoon 72517]

Just wanted to point out that if you have tattoos and post pictures with them showing, your publicly displaying your identity just the same as you would with a face shot.

 

 

I understand the reasons why some SPs don't post their faces (or tattoos), and that is their choice and they have every right to continue doing so. But as Emily J stated earlier in the thread, some of us are open with friends and family about what we do, and have no reason to mask our identities. Since face photos seem to not be a deal-breaker for most gents, I guess it's just a bonus when a girl does have 'em! ;)

 

And out of curiosity.... How many gents here would turn down hiring a potential secretary (just ONE example) whom they know to have previously been an SP? I just don't see any man on earth saying this to any woman: "I'm sorry, I cannot hire you because I've seen you in a porn flick before"

YA RIGHT! If anything, I'd be more worried about my boss expecting "extras" that aren't part of the job description....

 

Uh...ok?

Firstly,

from MY personal experience:

when times were slow here in Vancouver,

every once in a while over the last 6 years,

I have applied for a variety of jobs

within my level of experience.

I have hospitality, government, factory, sales experience &

am fluent in both official languages.

I always hold an updated resume;

well done, spelled correctly everywhere:

(you know, you're as opposed to your when I mean you are)

I have always specified on my resume that my escort experience

has been on the phones, booking appointments, screening, etc.

NOT actual calls.

Until I changed the wording of the resume to indicate

ONLY

the Sales, Booking, Advertising, Time Management,

what have you of this job,

ALL true,

I was placated at best, sometimes discounted outright.

FLAT OUT, this business has a stigma.

Like it, don't like it.

Whatever.

But deal with it, because it is the the truth.

To anyone who feels that their, ( not there )

SP resume is of no consequence to any future employment in the private,

non sex-trade sector, I invite you to give it a go now.

Sadly,

I assure you,

the results will surprise you.

Sandi

[newpepphole 100]

its all about the booty really for me! lol so as long as your not leather face then its fine!

[Guest]

Hey, what did us bad spellers/ bad grammar people do to you, big smile. Just being playful.

[RoddyThomas 2746]

Safety is paramount. It should be a girl's primacy concern. Body pics are great, and a guy can scan recommendations for comments about beauty or looks. Hopefully not sounding too shallow, if you aren't attractive, I can't imagine being overly successful in this industry. If I were a Chippendale dancer, I would get booed a lot and starve. Such is life. Building a great reputation as a sweet, professional and talented SP is more important to me that a face pic.

[xxxAxxx 21016]

 

Uh...ok?

Firstly,

from MY personal experience:

when times were slow here in Vancouver,

every once in a while over the last 6 years,

I have applied for a variety of jobs

within my level of experience.

I have hospitality, government, factory, sales experience &

am fluent in both official languages.

I always hold an updated resume;

well done, spelled correctly everywhere:

(you know, you're as opposed to your when I mean you are)

I have always specified on my resume that my escort experience

has been on the phones, booking appointments, screening, etc.

NOT actual calls.

Until I changed the wording of the resume to indicate

ONLY

the Sales, Booking, Advertising, Time Management,

what have you of this job,

ALL true,

I was placated at best, sometimes discounted outright.

FLAT OUT, this business has a stigma.

Like it, don't like it.

Whatever.

But deal with it, because it is the the truth.

To anyone who feels that their, ( not there )

SP resume is of no consequence to any future employment in the private,

non sex-trade sector, I invite you to give it a go now.

Sadly,

I assure you,

the results will surprise you.

Sandi

 

Firstly, I was speaking about NOT openly disclosing your previous employment as an SP....simply being "known" to the employer.

Secondly, don't take me too seriously! ;) Every single one of my posts should have a disclaimer that reads : "BEWARE OF SARCASM AHEAD"

You had a firstly too, where's your secondly?