Verified membership and negative reviews: a trial balloon

[Wolf Knight 29667]

I personally would prefer that CERB remain the same positive community that it is. I have gotten memberships on other boards and quite frankly got PO'd with the garbage so stick with CERB.

 

I don't use/rely on reco's to decide if I want to see a lady. I have my own mind and through communication with said lady I can quickly determine if she's someone I want to see all on my own (usually I can tell by her posts on discussion threads like this one). I try to write reco's with a dual purpose approach, one as a positive recognition for the lady that she did a good job of providing me with a positive experience and also because I know that some clients particularly newbies nervously trying to decide on a first SP might use them.(FYI many newbies are nervous and fall prey to stereotypes of the industry that positive reco's can serve to waylay, hence they book that lady knowing that others have seen that lady and have had "safe" positive experiences)

 

Realistically, (maybe it shouldn't be but) the YMMV factor is HUGE from one client to another so there is almost certain that my experience (as a dream client LOL) will not be your experience. Therefore everyone should always read Reco's/reviews with a grain of salt. Humans with different personalities will all interact differently, a lady with a sharp tongue might be described as bitchy in a negative review by a meek client however I might happen to enjoy her wit and meet her comment for comment. His experience might be soured mine might be fun filled but I happen to enjoy challenging ladies while he might be uncomfortable with a ladies expression of self.

 

My humble thought's are that allowing even tempered/moderated negativity on the board will result in boundaries being pushed resulting in an overall tone shift from clients and companions as equals in positive board participation over time.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

 

The moment that cerb lets negative reviews, is the day I close my account. I can't stand seeing the crap on some sites. I weep for those that are dragged through the mud because some guy decides he wants to "make that bitch pay".

 

 

I am with you on this! How many times do I hear the aged old story....

"she got caught going threw a guy's wallet" I mean, this is the first thing some will say to ruin a ladies reputation.

 

I have even heard this about me! I have had many situations over the years that I had to spend hours days, weeks, months and years, trying to clear my good name!

 

Some men's heads are so easily turned by a pretty ladies power, that they can make their men hobbyist do what ever they like. Like posting these awful lies, gathering info for them, getting location, fake appts in various cities. In some cases these got out of hand to the point a whole group of ladies and men decide to jump on the bash wagon just from "hearing about" these lies.

The haters. This is so bothersome, as most of the haters have never ever met me or communicated with me.

 

I feel there is no need for negative reviews, as with all things the true character will show through. If I was a thief, let's say....chances are I will not be in business long.

 

If everything I have ever heard about me was posted, there would be no reason to stay here, I might as well close my account, as surly I can not survive all my haters attacks. It would cause me more harm to be on the site then it would be worth. I have other ways I can advertise that do not include sites that can have reviews.

 

I do feel for the Gent's who let's say get swindled out of thousands of dollars. I am close to 2 hobbyist that this has happened. IN BOTH CASES they allowed the SP and Hobbyiest barrier get crossed. Sharing too intimate details of their lives, ie, wife name, home address, financial standing, weaknesses like sorrows. After few months of booking the lady, the lady starts with little favors, " can you help me on my cell phone" or "OMG I cant pay my rent because..." we can work it out on your next visit. IF YOU DO THIS you are opening Pandora's box if trouble. You see a pattern in this behaviour till one day your 20 thousand in the hole, and threats being made about exposing you to your boss, wife, kids.

 

BEST SUGGESTION I THINK is to learn from each other's mistakes without having to "out" her name. But look at patterns in how these women pull this off.

Maybe a social group that doesn't out names, but rather share your experiences to help others see what NOT to do when you think an SP is getting too close that barrier.

 

Not sure if there is a solid answer on these issues. What will be done will be done. It is more important to watch, listen and learn from other's that have been in the same boat as you. Got to play smart, and don't be no one's fool.

[Guest]

The thing that "haters" don't understand is the reason why guys are attracted to you and not them. It could be the way you look, your personality, the way you present yourself, the service you provide or a combination of all. Just because "haters" bump someone out of the business or tell rumors to hurt the "victims" business does not mean that they as a person may be getting the clients from the "victim" they bumped out of the business or slandered. The "haters" may be pushing this "victims" clients to other escorts. So now the "Haters" are still not getting more business and the "victim" has to start over and or repair relationships and like Sofia said there are other venues to advertise on. If the escort is a good provider, there's always a chance to rebuild clientele and there's noting that these haters can do. Most of the time after the dust settles clients come back anyways. Slander can slow down an escorts business temporarily but there is no going back for someone who likes to slander to get business, if they get caught. I guess haters can go to every extreme to try to slander someone but I could imagine that this is a lot of work. I myself would not want to put that much energy into hating.

 

So my view is be yourself attract the people that are good for you. Let's make love not war. I'm sorry for hijacking the thread a little, I just thought this would be a great side note.

[roamingguy 300292]

Here I go again, just a quick rambling. A couple ladies I see/have seen, when we were in conversations during an encounter reflected that for guys, review boards are part of the "hobby" (I hate that word when used for this lifestyle) and hobby implies recreation, escape, enjoyment etc.

But for the ladies, coming on the review boards is for them work, a part of their job (yes, this isn't a hobby to them, it is their livelihood) and most boards are a necessary but unpleasant evil for them.

CERB on the other hand, while part of their livelihood, because of it's positivity is not so much part of work, and the ladies are as much (and they should) equal members of this community. The other boards don't foster this same community spirit for them. If CERB goes the route of a review board, I fear the community spirit will go, and so will many of the ladies too.

As for reviews in general. If a review was done in a respectful responsible manner, I would be less opposed. But a couple examples from some review boards I was on, and why I quit them all and stuck with CERB

Case One. I wrote a recommendation of a lady, one I posted here. I also posted it on this review board I was on at the time. Well I got a slew of PM's bashing me for not writing the real intimate details, telling everyone what she does and so on. I said that was private, and was bashed on PM's for saying so, the gist being only reviews with the nitty gritty details are worth posting and if I wouldn't do reviews like that, don't post. I closed my account

Case Two. A "man" posted his review of a lady. His review of this lady went something like this. A friend of a friend saw her. Had a bad encounter, so I won't see her. He reviewed a lady he never even saw.

Closed my account to that board too.

BTW both ladies I have seen, and aren't review worthy, they are recommendation worthy

It seems, and I may be generalizing here, but review boards seem to cater to those who want either a review which bashes the lady or reads like Penthouse Forum

So for what it's worth, I think CERB should stick to being a recommendation board. If guys want to read reviews, there are other board out there, nothing says you can't join them too. And I fear a decline in the ladies' participation or worse, closing of their accounts if we go the route of an escort review board

That's my two cents worth

RG

Oooppps one quick comment. When I was on the other boards, I didn't enjoy being on them, unlike CERB which I do enjoy being on and contributing too. So closing my accounts there was no hardship.

And I had six bad encounters, five I could chalk up to YMMV (being generous here) but not review worthy

(review meaning negative review) But one I had, it was REVIEW worthy, that bad. It wasn't so much that she stole money from me but she robbed me of an encounter. But as bad as she was, I could only review on another board, and I'd rather be a positive contributor here than a negative one on another board if that makes sense. Plus it made me appreciate all the more those good and great companions I see.

[Mikeyboy 27133]

When I first joined this site, I struggled with the notion of the recommendation board vs the review concept. I see many of the new people have similar struggles as well. How am I going to figure out who the "bad ones" are? How am I going to share a bad experience so that others can avoid them? I see many newbies blatantly break the rules as they cannot even begin to understand a system that does not answer these questions.

 

It wasn't until I figured out that this is not the goal of the site that I understood its value. It is not to help you find the bad ones. It is to help you find the good ones. As simplistic as that sounds, it was this change in thinking that made me really appreciate what we have here.

 

It has also created an atmosphere where many of the sp's actually want to be here and participate in the forums. This lack of hostility leads to greater interest on their part, which in turn allows me to get to know more of them before I even meet them. Many of the ladies I already felt I knew before I ever met them in person. To me this adds immensely to the overall experience.

 

I think we need to give some careful thought before we pave paradise and put up a parking lot so to speak. The internet has enough of those already. Allowing negativity is only going to drive people away in my opinion.

 

Kudos to the mods for their tireless efforts in keeping the negatives at bay, and making this such a pleasant place to play.

[mrgreen760 37785]

I became curious while reading the discussion whether to allow reviews as well as recommendations on this board and decided to have a look at the recommendations section of the major cities in each province.

 

I observed how little activity there is generally which did surprise me and perhaps it's always been like that and I just never chose to look. Ottawa is by far the most active which I certainly expected as a lot or most of the regular posters seem to be in the capital region. Not much activity at all in recommendations sections in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver our largest cities and really not much anywhere else out west.

 

As I said I assumed a level of activity far greater than what I noted and perhaps it never was that active to begin with.. Will allowing reviews change that level of activity? And in the end it depends what the board owner's goals are.

 

Peace

MG

[mod 135640]

Ottawa is by far the busy city on cerb (it's closely related to EC and LYLA.com - Both have always been very strong in the ottawa market).

 

I am so happy to see all the great comments of our members about how much they enjoy the positive take that cerb has (makes me proud so thank you all for that).

 

 

I have to find a way to get other cities on board.

[roamingguy 300292]

Ottawa is by far the busy city on cerb (it's closely related to EC and LYLA.com - Both have always been very strong in the ottawa market).

 

I am so happy to see all the great comments of our members about how much they enjoy the positive take that cerb has (makes me proud so thank you all for that).

 

 

I have to find a way to get other cities on board.

 

I think it's pretty safe to say that we appreciate the hard work you (and town council) do to make this a positive community.

So a thank you is due to you too

RG

[piano8950 32577]

I have to find a way to get other cities on board.

 

I would very much like if Toronto could become big here. The two big cities of Ontario well represented. Been trying to recommend Cerb to people here, especially the ladies I've met but to little success :(

 

But I'll keep trying

[mod 135640]

Basically the guys will go where the ladies are so if we could get some regular ladies advertising in each city it will grow (and quick)

[gc1968 2033]

The more I read in this thread and others about other 'erbs' as they are being called, the more glad I am that this is the first site I stumbled on in my search. So I guess in a roundabout way that is my endorsement to keep things the same. (not that it means much, since I've been here all of 3 weeks or so) But I do have to say the thing that interested me and keeps me coming back is the participation by the SP's on this site; learning about the ladies personalities and backgrounds etc. is fascinating to me, and has opened my eyes to the fact that there is a lot more to an SP and the lifestyle than what I learned from TV & movies. (and the Grand Theft Auto series, but lets not go there ;) ) So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I would hate to see anything change that would result in less SP participation on the board. Not really against the idea of negative reviews, provided it didn't result in the SP's leaving, or being hurt either personally or professionally. Unfortunately just based on the comments in this thread it would seem there may not be a way to have a negative review policy without ending up hurting the community you have built here.

[fortunateone 156618]

I became curious while reading the discussion whether to allow reviews as well as recommendations on this board and decided to have a look at the recommendations section of the major cities in each province.

 

I observed how little activity there is generally which did surprise me and perhaps it's always been like that and I just never chose to look. Ottawa is by far the most active which I certainly expected as a lot or most of the regular posters seem to be in the capital region. Not much activity at all in recommendations sections in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver our largest cities and really not much anywhere else out west.

 

As I said I assumed a level of activity far greater than what I noted and perhaps it never was that active to begin with.. Will allowing reviews change that level of activity? And in the end it depends what the board owner's goals are.

 

Peace

MG

 

 

 

I just think that most sites get regional, whether it is planned that way or not. I've visited a couple of newer sites when they first popped up, because the did a lot of heavy advertising across the country. When i went back to them a year or so later, because the ads did nothing for me, I found that without exception 90% of all reviews and ads were from one single area, and 10% leftover from the mass ad campaign lol

 

 

For some reason that seems to be the way it is.