Deposits And Cancellation Fees..for real?!

[dinkdodger 100]

Ive heard of independent sp's charging a cancellation fee for no-show clients. When the client calls back to make a second appointment they are charged extra to cover the fee. I this true? Has anyone actually paid a "cancellation fee" before? How about paid a deposit up front to an independent sp?

Thanks

[macpherson 953]

Many SP's get tremendous amounts of cancellations and it's just bad for their business. Some of them just get sick of it and have to charge a fee.

 

I guess it should happen to people that have cancelled more than once because that's a little sketchy. I'm really not surprised SP's are doing this though.

[Guest realnicehat]

A lot of discussion on this topic here:

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=132260&highlight=cancellation

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Deposits And Cancellation Fees..for real?!

 

Yes, for real LOL

 

Every lady runs their business the way they want/need. If you don't appreciate certain specific business models, I am positive you will find many others who will accommodate your needs ;)

 

I am one of the ladies who require a deposit under certain circumstances and also has a cancellation policy. Why you might ask? So people who are not serious about meeting with me or are not reliable do not waste my time.

 

Cheers :)

[DwayneR 2105]

Deposits And Cancellation Fees..for real?!

 

Yes, for real LOL

 

Every lady runs their business the way they want/need. If you don't appreciate certain specific business models, I am positive you will find many others who will accommodate your needs ;)

 

I am one of the ladies who require a deposit under certain circumstances and also has a cancellation policy. Why you might ask? So people who are not serious about meeting with me or are not reliable do not waste my time.

 

Cheers :)

 

 

Having been cancelled on and worse more than once myself.

Just curious, what happens when you cancel?

Does it work both ways?

Cheers. : )

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Ive heard of independent sp's charging a cancellation fee for no-show clients. When the client calls back to make a second appointment they are charged extra to cover the fee. I this true? Has anyone actually paid a "cancellation fee" before? How about paid a deposit up front to an independent sp?

Thanks

 

If a client jerks an SP around enough ( cancelling multiple times) or no shows her then it's justified. Don't waste their time by doing this and there won't be a problem. Most won't call back and are considered time wasters and would be blacklisted by the SP.

 

And if an SP did this, there would be holy hell to pay for if it were a last minute cancellation or she no showed. A professional SP will make it up to the client at a reduced rate or more time offered.

 

If a client is intent on seeing a certain SP then keep the appt or cancel in sufficient amount of time.

 

Other businesses will ask for the same so why should it be any different for an SP? I recently missed a hair appt because I was sick and cancelled on short notice and had to pay a cancellation fee of $100. Why? because it's policy and I respect the guy who's been doing my hair for the last 13 years and he is losing money. Short term cancellations aren't that easy to replace right away. And I also respect him and what he does.

[Fresh start 17467]

Think the bottom line is the sp time is just as valuable as anyone else. Unfortunately there are some people have abused their time and now they've ruined it for others. Beside its not a big deal. I'm sure most providers would be willing to reschedule if giving valid notice and they've haven't made any expenses. (Hotel, travel ect.)

[Gabriella Laurence 301887]

Having been cancelled on and worse more than once myself.

Just curious, what happens when you cancel?

Does it work both ways?

Cheers. : )

OK, fair enough. I will give you an example:

 

It's happened where I had to cancel on my gentleman because mature decided to show up unexpectedly (something I have no control over) and because I am not comfortable seeing anyone intimately during that time I inform my gentleman of the situation and offer him extra time if he wishes to reschedule. For example, if my gentleman had scheduled a 2-3 hour rendez-vous with me, I will automatically offer an extra hour (no charge) to compensate for the cancellation on my part. I haven't had one gentleman complain about this so far and they always appreciated the extra time we were able to spend together ;)

 

I hope this answers your question :)

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

For those of that travel, incur expenses and then have someone not show or give bogus information on their location, I tell them if they want to re-book, they owe me for the time I wasted the last time. Seems fair to me. Why would I incur expenses for someone who disrespects me by not showing without a valid reason?

 

I had a client that I went to see, drove an hour to see him. He gave me a bogus address (even though I had properly screened him, the address he gave me was valid, just not his). Said he was at another address that did not exist. So, I ended up wasting 3 hours of my time (and gas). He now owes me at least travelling money. If he chooses to re-book me, he must give me a deposit equivalent to the money he already wasted, and now for the portion of this call, so that if by chance he is again a non-productive call, at least I am not out more money.

 

Of course, he is also blacklisted so that other ladies go in to meeting him with their eyes open to what he did to me. They will decide if he needs a deposit to see him.

 

For those that are well respected among other sp's, I am not as concerned about getting a deposit from them.

 

I always say, just don't do it. If you can't make your appointment, give lots of notice, don't waste ladies time because they will remember this and if you can't give notice, give a cancellation fee for her missed opportunity.

 

Simple really.

[Studio 110 by Sophia 150333]

There are many examples that we can give, many scenarios we can cover in this topic.

Each lady will deal with time wasters, compulsive cancelers, or what have you, in the way that feel appropriate to her. But there is a HUGE difference with canceling on a lady that travels compared to the lady who is based and full time in her hometown base.

 

When you only have 48 hours in one city, still need sleep for 8 hours, and you have one cancelation, just 1 hour prior to time set aside....

 

then you have 2 cancel...

 

there are only so many hours left to offer her time to you fine Gent's!

 

well consider 300+ is now not coming in, yet hotels, flights, supplies still have to be paid!

 

How many times have I heard, " ohh well you get another in"

THE THING IS... most established pro's select carefully on whom spends that time with us, not a phone ringing off the hook...waiting for the next one to call! And possiable that if the phone does ring for on the spot, that Gent may not fit the mold of who we are wanting to spend time with:(

 

THIS IS the elite experience that you Gent's deserve and expect!

 

Keep in mind, when someone is traveling, there time is precious and limited.

 

For me, I am a softy, but if you continue to cancel on me, for the 2nd and 3rd time, you just wont book me! Unless you have made it up to me in an extra fee!

 

However when dealing with an agency that has 10 ladies, this is less likely to happen. As the agent, could care less as they probably have 10 there ladies that will be booked. But I am sure the lady would be sad !!But the agent had No Hotel and flights to worry about.

 

I hope this gives both spectrums of this concept? Hey Sh** happens, but do your part when booking a travel lady, be sure your time is cleared. But no matter if agency or indy, if you are always canceling, then be prepared to pay, or be on a blacklist:(

[SHE DEVIL 16331]

Having been cancelled on and worse more than once myself.

Just curious, what happens when you cancel?

Does it work both ways?

Cheers. : )

 

 

I've had to cancel less than 12 times in years. Sometimes, it cannot be helped. However, if I have to cancel a session and when they rebook, I discount the next session. It isn't some lame $20 off either.

 

We put in work for our sessions, re-arrange schedules, drop plans, I even dropped my basket shopping and fled the store once. On top of me being presentable, so does my location. I am OCD and often that is part of the hour notice. (drive home, 10 second tidy, get room prepared, towels etc, and then get MYSELF ready)

 

Winnipeg has been HORRIBLE for no shows, double, triple booking girls. That no show section grew an amazing amount in 4 months. It has gotten to the point, I have to check the number in the bad date section before I agree to an appointment.

 

I am also seriously considering a pre-booking fee and a cancellation fee. If all of these touring girls with extensive booking requirements and deposit requirements can do it, I feel I can do the same. How touring girls choose to book is totally understandable, I just don't understand why I am met with so much reluctance.

 

I also feel if you lost your nerve and try to walk in and out you should pay some sort of fee. We just exposed ourselves (literally) and our location. Is that fair? Do we know where you live? As a Greek provider, whether you partake or not, you owe that fee. It is a specialty service that requires more preparation. Do you order a meal and not pay for it even if you only had a bite and there's nothing wrong with it?

 

SD

 

[roamingguy 300292]

The lady is within her rights to request and expect a deposit or cancellation fee. For the gentlemen, this lifestyle is an escape, an indulgence if you will. For the ladies this lifestyle is their livelihood! (emphasized because it seems to be something forgotten by some)

If a lady cancels or no shows the worst for the guy is he doesn't have an encounter with her....but he does get to keep his money and can possibly set up another encounter with another lady

If a guy cancels, that was time the lady set aside for him on the belief she would get income (remember, this is their job, their livelihood) It was time she could have used to see a paying client instead of setting aside for what turns out a no show/no income period of time. Instead she has, for that period of time, made no money...money to pay the rent, groceries, bills, possibly support her kids (yes, some ladies are also mothers)

That's not to mention other expenses. The lady may have booked a hotel room for incalls , may also tour (which has added expenses involved). She could be paying for a hotel room, plane ticket, meals, incidentals etc, based on seeing a paying client. If a guy is a no show or cancellation then she from a business perspective just has expenses yet no income. Her profit loss statement is a loss

If you schedule an encounter with a lady, carry through with the encounter. If you can't make it and are a no show or cancellation, pay a cancellation fee to the lady. You already have the money (or should have)

so no excuse for not compensating the lady for her financial loss because you couldn't keep your commitment.

And let's not forget something else. I've read posts, mostly in other boards (which thrive on negativity btw imho) about the lady being five minutes late or along those lines, and bashing her to holy hell...I read posts by those "men" I want to bash them (but I digress) But those same type of "men" seem to think it's ok to no show or cancel on a lady without compensating her someway.

If you cancel and get a reputation for being a habitual canceller, well it isn't just between you and the lady, ladies talk to one another, and you will get known, and not in a good way

A rambling from a guy who paid a lady her donation in full plus tip when he couldn't make an encounter due to illness. At least financially it wasn't a loss for the lady

RG

[steveyK 4311]

Ive heard of independent sp's charging a cancellation fee for no-show clients. When the client calls back to make a second appointment they are charged extra to cover the fee. I this true? Has anyone actually paid a "cancellation fee" before? How about paid a deposit up front to an independent sp?

Thanks

 

All good responses so far, I hope your question has been answered, but I thought I'd add my two cents...

A gentleman would not have to be charged a cancellation fee, read RG's post for the definition of gentleman!

As for deposits, they would be required for several reasons...a travelling lady is time limited and would usually expect her expenses as a deposit, a local lady booking a new member with no references or no post history (like you) may look for a deposit of half just for security and to get a feel for whether or not you are a gentleman, or perhaps you habitually cancel and have a bad rep amongst the ladies (they do talk to each other!).

You didn't specify whom you 'heard' this from, but I would go back and ask this person which category above they fit themselves into!

 

Life is good today, don't waste a minute of it!

[craig101 3213]

Well it works both ways. Both sides can have emergencies and illnesses.

If I wake up at 4 am with MASSIVE EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA I don't think she wants me showing up that morning. lol

The S.P.s times is valuable which is obvious but so is the gentleman's time.

Maybe the gentleman had to take time off work without pay. Maybe he had to book a hotel room. Maybe he had to pay and send the wife to the spa. lol

Whatever the penalty should be it should work exactly both ways.

Everybody's time is precious and valuable.

[sandimoon 72517]

A gentleman would not have to be charged a cancellation fee, read RG's post for the definition of gentleman!

As for deposits, they would be required for several reasons... but I would go back and ask this person which category above they fit themselves into!

 

Life is good today, don't waste a minute of it!

 

As always, a measured & well laid out response.

If I may add to your list of reasons:

There are unfortunately certain cities with a notorious history

of no shows, last minute cancels

& other assorted waste of time crap.

My apologies to the wonderful men

who reside & hobby there,

but Winnipeg is in the top 3 of Cerb ladies list of

" Won't go, won't show, not gonna happen" cities.

Sorry, but that is the truth.

Now you may have zero blame in this but you are

now the recipient of others disrespect for a lady's time.

The city also has a major

pimp/low rent indi/b&s agency problem.

Not to mention the ever lovely

Mr Jetz, who in my opinion,

should be eviscerated & hung by his entrails

in a public ceremony.

But I digress.

My best advice:

Do your research in your chosen intended,

make sure that your deposit will not disappear

(happens sadly which is why knowledge is paramount)

& keep that appointment.

Once you establish a reliable reputation with a few

escorts, deposits may be waived in lieu

of a personal history or good references

(note that they are still at the lady's discretion & agencies don't count)

And if successful, you may turn the tide

of opinion for your city that will invite many wonderful

ladies to visit, only enhancing your hobby experience.

No pressure though, LOL!

Hope this helps.

Sandi

[PistolPete 61421]

Ladies will ask for a deposit or request a cancellation fee, there is far too many guys that try and play the "book ya game"...yes and the "book ya game" as artist of the game,they like to book up space, than cancel within less than 12 hours.

 

Meanwhile a gent like myself with good reputation,and have been verified/screened wanted that time, gets that last hour text and she tells me she now available..... to be quite honest,that pisses me off to no end.

 

The fee's are there for a purpose, for the lady to protect her business, and for guys not to fuck them over with pulling a quick cancellation.

 

It's a known fact that even agencies that are competitors will call the other and book time with a visiting SP too (Some ladies may use a agency in a city to represent them), and that is to simply "fuck over the competition"

 

It goes without saying those that might be known as a tire kicker/time wasters may have to pay those security deposits, but I don't blame the ladies at all. Those that have a great rapport with ladies, actually sometimes don't have to pay a security deposit as we have been "Okayed" and verified AS good clients,but we would pay the cancellation fee is something drastically happen.

 

I had a session not to long ago we were into our 3 hour session and by 1.5 hours, I received and family emergency text ( we were both taking a break after half way through and checking messages ) I had to leave, I left her of course the full donation when we first started so when I was getting dressed she gave me back some cash. I told her "no" I booked up her time, she said "No you're a great client and I know you will be back." :) Plus I've seen her numerous times.

 

Shit does happen from time to time,but I like to think if you build your reputation as a good client, good things happen to those.

 

Yes, I have had many...many...cancellations done to myself from ladies over my time, and some legit reasoning and I have been well compensated the next visit :) Like less fee,or more time, but those ladies that never responded back OR gave myself a reasonable explanation, well, I simply ignore them and they never see a cent of my coin ever.

 

I work hard for my money as well, and I don't like being fucked over when taking time from my business,driving to and from her place and not even getting an apology, having said that, that was years back and I learned my lesson who to see, and I stick with reputable ladies, just like they stick with reputable gents.

 

"Time is money" So lets's not waste it, it isn't fair in this business.

[Guest ***nno**n***]

Well it works both ways. Both sides can have emergencies and illnesses.

If I wake up at 4 am with MASSIVE EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA I don't think she wants me showing up that morning. lol

The S.P.s times is valuable which is obvious but so is the gentleman's time.

Maybe the gentleman had to take time off work without pay. Maybe he had to book a hotel room. Maybe he had to pay and send the wife to the spa. lol

Whatever the penalty should be it should work exactly both ways.

Everybody's time is precious and valuable.

 

Craig ...honey, you are missing one very important fact.

 

You want the SP's time, you called her and set up an appointment.

She did NOT call you and ask for your time. If you are the one cancelling, you are the one who has to make it right. If she has a cancellation fee and you decide to blow her off, well you won't be seeing her again because we women remember things like that.

 

Now if you are a Gentleman, as other Gentlemen here have said this isn't even an issue.

 

As an SP when I have had to cancel they client definitely gets a benefit from that the next time I see him.

 

The whole reason we need this in the first place is because we don't want someone wasting our time.

 

So honey don't get stuck on whatever your reason is.

[craig101 3213]

Craig ...honey, you are missing one very important fact.

 

You want the SP's time, you called her and set up an appointment.

She did NOT call you and ask for your time. If you are the one cancelling, you are the one who has to make it right. If she has a cancellation fee and you decide to blow her off, well you won't be seeing her again because we women remember things like that.

 

Now if you are a Gentleman, as other Gentlemen here have said this isn't even an issue.

 

As an SP when I have had to cancel they client definitely gets a benefit from that the next time I see him.

 

The whole reason we need this in the first place is because we don't want someone wasting our time.

 

So honey don't get stuck on whatever your reason is.

 

Seems you are agreeing with me. lol I have no issues with ladies having cancellation fees and protecting themselves from time wasters.

Was just adding that the clients time is also valuable and that both sides should be sensitive. I think were on the same page here.

[DwayneR 2105]

OK, fair enough. I will give you an example:

 

It's happened where I had to cancel on my gentleman because mature decided to show up unexpectedly (something I have no control over) and because I am not comfortable seeing anyone intimately during that time I inform my gentleman of the situation and offer him extra time if he wishes to reschedule. For example, if my gentleman had scheduled a 2-3 hour rendez-vous with me, I will automatically offer an extra hour (no charge) to compensate for the cancellation on my part. I haven't had one gentleman complain about this so far and they always appreciated the extra time we were able to spend together ;)

 

I hope this answers your question :)

 

Yes and I would be happy with this solution also.

 

Question : How much time, before hand is needed to cancel without penalty?

24 hours? : )

[punkindrublic86 251]

Id say 24 hours is a goodly amount of time. I have had a very respectable SP cancel on me and got some extra free time as a result. Needless to say, I was satisfied. Never had to put down a deposit, but if I trusted the SP I would pay it. Same if she had a good rep, I suppose.

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[Wolf Knight 29667]

I choose to enjoy the company of companions when I travel and typically I have a very tight window of opportunity to visit with someone on my trips so I tend to book well in advance to ensure that I get the time slot I desire. On a couple of occasions I've had circumstances change around the timing of my trip or my meetings and have had to cancel on some ladies. In all cases it was days in advance however I still offered to pay her cancellation fee if she had one. Reputation is everything for companions and clients and I would never risk mine over a few bucks. I've also cancelled related to illness but again days in advance and again offered to pay the cancellation fee.

 

I have also been cancelled on by a few companions. Twice last minute, within an hour of the appointment. One was a no show, I was at her location and messaged her for the apt number and she went MIA. It turned out that her phone died and she didn't have her charger at her incall so she couldn't get back to me. The other time her period apparently surprised her last minute and she cancelled. In neither situation was I really out anything. Disappointed yes, but I still had my funds to book another day. I choose to give a lady two chances before I deem her a "flake" so I took the ladies at their word and did rebook with each. In both cases I did have a great time on my next visit, however with no additional compensation in terms of time or $.

 

Only once have I actually been out anything and it was when I booked a lady who was only available to do outcall. I went ahead and arranged a hotel for the visit and checked in. 20 minutes before the date she messaged me and said she couldn't make it so there I was with a hotel room at $270 and nothing to do and despite my best efforts could not arrange another lady on short notice. That one stung a little, and to add insult to injury I later found out that she cancelled on me to see another client for a longer appt. I would never book with that SP again but in this business it's to be expected that shit will happen from time to time.

 

I've also paid deposits to "well known" respected travelling ladies to secure my appointment and truthfully it doesn't bother me at all to do that for the right lady that I know is legit.

 

An elite, super respected, travelling lady I know, visited St. John's (paid for flights and hotel, big bucks ) based on clients who booked her time in advance. When she arrived she had the majority of those clients cancel. She was left to hope that she manage to get enough last minute clients (difficult to conduct proper verification last minute) to make her trip break even. In my opinion that lady would have every right to expect those clients to pay a deposit in the future for another visit. By cancelling they have shown themselves as untrustworthy clients and they need to prove to that lady that they deserve to be trusted.

 

Basically, companions share with each other info on no shows, cancellers and time wasters. Likewise, clients also share information on ladies who are flakes. Reputation is everything and why f**k around and screw yours up.

 

A Friday morning, coffee time rambling from Chuck