Another discussion on YMMV

[RobX 2084]

YMMV is a a commonly used term in the escort business, which one does not generally find in other services industries, where all customers expect to be treated equally. Thus, one can legitimately ask the question: Why is it different in the escort business? There are several subsidiary questions regarding this issue that one can ask, which can best be answered by SPs:

• In most cases, is YMMV under the control of the client (eg. cleanliness, behaviour) or out of his control (eg. physical attractiveness, chemistry)?
  
• Does YMMV depend on the mood of the SP at the time, or does it solely depend on the client attributes or behaviour?
  
• Is YMMV time-variable - ie. should a client always expect the same, or possibly different, results the next time he visits the same SP?
  

It would be interesting to have the viewpoint of SPs on the board regarding this question, as well as the opinion and experience of hobbyists on this subject.

[Guest realnicehat]

I think the main reason it is different is because the escort business is, to the best of my knowledge, the only one that is reviewed on discussion boards. I have never run across any other industry whose professionals are scrutinized as much as sex workers are. So yes, while the term is most often associated with this business, I think the idea still applies in all aspects of the service industry. I have seen or heard of people getting better service than others in all sorts of businesses. I'm guilty of it myself. If you treat me with respect and kindness I will go out of my way to help you. Come at me with an attitude and I will still do my job but that is all you will get. Truthfully, if I were being reviewed YMMV.

 

As far as the subsidiary questions go:

 

In most cases, is YMMV under the control of the client (eg. cleanliness, behaviour) or out of his control (eg. physical attractiveness, chemistry)?

 

Most often in control of the client. Good hygiene and attitude will win out 90% of the time. Again, I feel that a good attitude gets you better service in most industries though. We just don't hop on the computer at night and rate our travel agent or banker....

 

 

Does YMMV depend on the mood of the SP at the time, or does it solely depend on the client attributes or behaviour?

 

While the ladies are nothing but professional, no one is at the top of their game all the time. I would think very occasionally their mood may affect their performance but more often than not it is the clients attitude that determines the level of service.

 

 

Is YMMV time-variable - ie. should a client always expect the same, or possibly different, results the next time he visits the same SP?

 

Peoples moods change. While I would hope for somewhat consistent service things happen. I have had both good dates and mind blowing dates with the same provider. I wouldn't fault her however, I'm sure it had more to do with my mood as hers.

[Phaedrus 209521]

YMMV is a a commonly used term in the escort business, which one does not generally find in other services industries, where all customers expect to be treated equally. Thus, one can legitimately ask the question: Why is it different in the escort business?

 

Well, it's just more... personal :)

 

There are several subsidiary questions regarding this issue that one can ask, which can best be answered by SPs:

 

In most cases, is YMMV under the control of the client (eg. cleanliness, behaviour) or out of his control (eg. physical attractiveness, chemistry)?

 

I'd have thought both. Everything you mention is relevant, and there are probably other variables on each side we could add.

 

Does YMMV depend on the mood of the SP at the time, or does it solely depend on the client attributes or behaviour?

 

I have no doubt that the SP's mood is a factor. But then again, so is the client's... and the two feed off each other...

 

Is YMMV time-variable - ie. should a client always expect the same, or possibly different, results the next time he visits the same SP?

 

A bit, perhaps, but not as much as the difference between clients for the same SP, or SPs for the same client. Some fundamental things won't change from visit to visit, and some things (like hygiene) should be pretty consistent, but some things - like whether you've just had a shitty day, or you're tired, or whatever - may be different each time.

[Sweet Emily J 172062]

YMMV is a a commonly used term in the escort business, which one does not generally find in other services industries, where all customers expect to be treated equally. Thus, one can legitimately ask the question: Why is it different in the escort business?

 

I would argue that YMMV does apply in other service industries. And all of them, in fact. I don't think it's any different in the escort industry at all, it just seems that we talk about it so much more, and it's harder for some people to grasp the concept. In the rest of the business world (and the rest of life in general) it's just called common sense. :)

 

As an example, if you are a regular guest at a restaurant and you are friendly, courteous, polite, gracious and tip appropriately, do you think you will get the same quality of service as some random rude prick who treats the server like crap? Simply, no. And if you think about it for a bit, you could apply this to any other industry, if you change the circumstances and situation. Each industry will have it's own set of factors, depending on the type of business, that will make the difference, and I strongly believe that personally, we do indeed have a lot of control of our own outcomes in our various business (and personal) dealings.

 

When dealing with human beings, YMMV always applies. :)

[cinelli 22184]

As an example, if you are a regular guest at a restaurant and you are friendly, courteous, polite, gracious and tip appropriately, do you think you will get the same quality of service as some random rude prick who treats the server like crap?

 

Absolutely!

 

I had a rough day at work today, we were shortstaffed due to "long-weekend-itis" so it was nuts. Stopped in at Sbux on the way home, I go there about twice a week. There's about fifteen people in line, ugh. Plus they are all yuppie types and I'm all grimy...I live in a pretty snobby neighbourhood.

Then I see this girl behind the counter who usually serves me, and she waves at me and starts making my "usual", she handed it over the counter to me when there were still five or six people ahead of me waiting to pay.

 

Oh mystery Starbucks girl, you so fine. :chug:

[conquistador 18487]

Absolutely!

 

I had a rough day at work today, we were shortstaffed due to "long-weekend-itis" so it was nuts. Stopped in at Sbux on the way home, I go there about twice a week. There's about fifteen people in line, ugh. Plus they are all yuppie types and I'm all grimy...I live in a pretty snobby neighbourhood.

Then I see this girl behind the counter who usually serves me, and she waves at me and starts making my "usual", she handed it over the counter to me when there were still five or six people ahead of me waiting to pay.

 

Oh mystery Starbucks girl, you so fine. :chug:

 

do you take mental photographs -

 

:)

[Cute0aza0Button 21399]

For me, YMMV never depends on physical attraction. This is probably because I have never cared about looks, to me it is all about attitude. It is impossible for me to have a fun sexy time wt a gy that treats me badly.... and I' sure that is true for he hobbiest as well. My mood plays a part as well - put e in a bad one and chances are you won't be happy either.

 

I've said it time and time again - SPs and those who hobby are first and foremost PEOPLE. We have feelings and emotions and we all deserve to be treated accordingly.

[roamingguy 300292]

YMMV is a a commonly used term in the escort business, which one does not generally find in other services industries, where all customers expect to be treated equally. Thus, one can legitimately ask the question: Why is it different in the escort business? There are several subsidiary questions regarding this issue that one can ask, which can best be answered by SPs:

• In most cases, is YMMV under the control of the client (eg. cleanliness, behaviour) or out of his control (eg. physical attractiveness, chemistry)?
  
• Does YMMV depend on the mood of the SP at the time, or does it solely depend on the client attributes or behaviour?
  
• Is YMMV time-variable - ie. should a client always expect the same, or possibly different, results the next time he visits the same SP?
  

It would be interesting to have the viewpoint of SPs on the board regarding this question, as well as the opinion and experience of hobbyists on this subject.

 

The client plays a large factor in YMMV, but I would say in such an intimate interpersonal lifestyle both the lady and gentleman combined also play a part in YMMV. For example, from the client's side, yes, hygiene and behaviour play a major factor in YMMV. If the client hasn't showered, shaved, fresh breath, and is rude, don't expect a lady to treat him as good if you will as with a client who not only has good hygiene but is a gentleman too. But YMMV may also be a combination of the lady and gentleman combined. Sometimes chemistry is a factor. We're all people here, and sometimes two people just don't click, there is no chemistry. Nobody's fault, it sometimes happens. Sometimes, at least in my experience, very rarely, but instead of the man being rude, the lady is rude, or treats the client just like a paycheque, nothing else. Being told when she walks in the room "gotta pay the bills hun, gotta pay the bills" or going to the ladies incall, handing the donation and being told "oh good, now I can buy groceries" makes for a poor encounter.

As for physical attractiveness. Well here I disagree. My experience is a gentleman's physical attractiveness plays no role in YMMV. I'm middle aged, bald, overweight, would never make the cover of GQ. But the ladies I see, Goddesses all, could be models, and they make heads turn. They treat me like they just got asked out on a date with a male model. The ladies are professional, and treat their clients, at least in my experience, like they are seeing a good looking male model, not a middle aged overweight bald guy. So I disagree, looks play no part in YMMV, at least in my experience.

 

I'm sure a lady may for whatever reason not be at one hundred percent at times (we're all human after all) and it could affect YMMV. I know one lady, who had something personal going on and our encounter was say, eighty five percent (mind you her eighty five percent was much better than some other lady's one hundred percent's) But I saw her again, and was treated to encounters which were one hundred and fifty percent encounters. So on the tally sheet of life, well maybe you might get less than one hundred percent in YMMV from an SP. but you may also be treated to that lady giving more than one hundred percent in future encounters...it more than balances out

(btw as a sidebar I miss this lady)

 

YMMV in my experience is time variable. The first time you meet, it is two strangers SP and Client meeting. But repeat encounters, well the lady is now seeing a man she knows, and the man seeing a lady he knows. It's no longer two people who only know each other through emails and pm's. And if there are repeat encounters, well obviously SP Client relationship aside, they both must like and trust one another, or they wouldn't agree to see each other again. YMMV certainly is going to be different with a lady and gentleman that know and like one another than with a lady and gentleman who have just met one another for the first time. And YMMV may include certain intangible undefinable aspects, nothing having to do with a menu of services, that just make repeat encounters very special

 

And I agree with EmilyJ about YMMV not just restricted to this lifestyle. Case in point. Restaurant up the street from me, I go to for take out frequently. At the take out they have a tip jar, for the ladies taking the orders and cooks preparing the meals. Most people there drop a quarter or two in for a tip. Me, I always drop a $5.00 bill. Well now I always get extra feta and olives on my greek salad, or extra tatziki on my souvlaki, or extra cheese on a pizza.

 

YMMV is something that happens to a client when he sees an SP but he may not even know it is happening when it does happen. That is first because no two encounters, even between the same two people are the same. A client who shows a lady appreciation and respect (maybe tip and gift), and treats the encounter and treats his time with her as more than a simple business transaction, but an special escape between two (or more) people, will likely see that YMMV means one thing, namely that the client will be treated special. A client who reduces the encounter to just a simple business transaction, nothing more, well his encounter will likely be different than from the gentleman who treats the encounter as a special escape. And for a client who is rude, haggles and/or has poor hygiene, well he'll find YMMV means something else

 

A morning rambling

RG

[bcguy42 38594]

To the OP I would say yes, YMMV is all of those things and I agree the concept applies in most areas of life.

 

Take Mike the Hot Dog guy at the beach I just visited. Known him for years. His dogs are $2 each. I'm getting 11. He charges me $20 and throws in a bag of chips. And refuses a tip. Are you getting that deal? Nope. YMMV.

 

The moral of the story? Be nice and maybe in ten years you, too, can get a free hot dog.