GreekFreak 101 Report post Posted October 26, 2009 Hi all, I am wondering, in terms of etiquette, what is right or wrong to ask an SP prior to service. I'm sorry if this is answered somewhere else on the forum but I am a newb and I'm still getting used to this forum so please take it easy on me:bowdown: I'll describe a recent email I sent to an SP on Cl... I know I know... Actually, I'll just copy and past the email and maybe some of you can give me your opinion. I never got a response back from the SP... It was actually someone who "does the booking for ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** who can be found on CL in Red Deer. The booker, so to speak, sent me a few photos which were really blurry and the ad didn't describe what services would be provided or the rates.... Really the ad was just a stunning beauty with a bit of info and a contact. Anyway, here's the email... Hi there, Thanks for the quick response. I have a few questions and I hope none of them are offensive but I know what I want so I have to ask. The pics are pretty blurry, does she have any tattoos or scars which would possibly be a turn off? I'm sorry to ask but the last date I had gave birth via csection and I had a hard time getting past that. What services does ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** provide? GFE, PSE etc etc. Does she have any specific things she DOES NOT do. Is she willing to wear a specific outfit (I really like the schoolgirl picture you sent). Does she do outcalls or incalls? How much advance notice does she need for a specific date and time. Lastly I need rates. Like I said before I know what I want and I want a lot of it. Depending on the rate I might book her for an overnight so I need to know the hourly rate and overnight rate please. One last thing actually, does she do threesomes? If she does is there a particular girl and could I see pics/rates for that service. Sorry for all the questions. ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** looks great so I can't wait to hear back. So it goes without saying that maybe asking about scars/tattoos was a bit insensitive but this is where I get confused.... I really don't want to make a date and then be disappointed when I see the SP so I figure in lieu of wasting both of our time I would just be up front.... :oops::oops: What do you folks think? I sure hope I wasn't too harsh... And if I was I would greatly appreciate a little guidance :neutral: Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 Hi there, Thanks for the quick response. I have a few questions and I hope none of them are offensive but I know what I want so I have to ask. The pics are pretty blurry, does she have any tattoos or scars which would possibly be a turn off? I'm sorry to ask but the last date I had gave birth via csection and I had a hard time getting past that. What services does ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** provide? GFE, PSE etc etc. Does she have any specific things she DOES NOT do. Is she willing to wear a specific outfit (I really like the schoolgirl picture you sent). Does she do outcalls or incalls? How much advance notice does she need for a specific date and time. Lastly I need rates. Like I said before I know what I want and I want a lot of it. Depending on the rate I might book her for an overnight so I need to know the hourly rate and overnight rate please. One last thing actually, does she do threesomes? If she does is there a particular girl and could I see pics/rates for that service. Sorry for all the questions. ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** looks great so I can't wait to hear back. Cheers I can't say I know why a booker would not have replied, since it isn't about them and at the very least they should be able to give some information for you. But I can say that I would not have replied, based on the bolded items in your email. (but then, in my first email, I would have given you a phone # to call for info, and if you replied in an email I would have ignored it because I specifically ask for you to call lol, so bear with me here) 1. which would possibly be a turn off I would have been offended by this, even tho I do not have any scars or tattoos lol To me, it sounds like you are high maintenance, fussy, picky, more interested in looks than personality or the overall experience 2. the last date I had gave birth via csection and I had a hard time getting past that. See # 1 (Too much information) 3. Like I said before I know what I want and I want a lot of it Yeah, this is totally not attractive, not appealing at all. If an sp chooses who they see, this does not sound like someone who is easy to get along with, fun to be with. Sounds judgemental, demanding, and arrogant. Not saying that that is what you planned to sound like, just my POV. 4. I might book her for an overnight This is usually code for, I am wasting your time. It is the carrot dangling in order to get more for less, or something for nothing, and a very common thing for guys to say who are trying to make a deal, or who are complete wastes of time. Put it in the donotuse file along with "money is no object". Or, she simply would not even consider booking any overnights without having 2-3 short appts first, to judge compatibility. She would not consider extending a short appt into an overnighter, so she decided not to reply based on the idea that you were looking for someone willing to extend on short notice. 5. does she do threesomes While good to know, based on everything else in the email, this to me would sound like someone who actually does not know what he wants, or is again dangling that carrot, specifically to the booker who may benefit from being able to set up a duo. I think the main thing is that most escorts have seen it all before, and a short sincere email goes a long way. I think the fact that you specifically sent the first email looking for rates and services but did not get them should have meant pass. She may also have only been there for a short time, and since the first reply has left town. On the other hand, she may not have received the email at all. Strange things happen to my email accounts (google) and it is damned annoying. Why not remove the offensive bits and re-email to a new ad post, if there is one, and try again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grass_Hopper 18263 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 I would have reply this e-mail (understand PM thru here...), but the way I see it, this agency does'nt really care... Maybe a PIMP??? Blurry pic, no phone number, no awnser... Looks like a B&S or even a scam to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 Fortunateone made some very good points. My approach - or at least I attempt to be - be clear, succinct and to the point. And always be wary of something potentially offensive. When you ask if someone may have scars, it could be intrepreted as 'is she ugly?'. And you were looking for way too much iffy info...you have to keep in perspective that the girls or bookers get a lot of inquiries, you're not the only one. Asking about threesomes and overnighters in the same breath is too much to start. Personally, I wouldn't even consider an overnighter with a girl until I've met her at least once, and many girls feel the same way. On top of every thing else, you say you know what you want and you want a lot of it. But you never say what that is. Maybe that's what you should be asking about and worry about the other stuff later? Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreekFreak 101 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 Yikes! Well I suppose my inexperince really shows then. I guess what it boils down to is I want to know exactly what I'm getting. Sorry if that seems offensive but I want to be very attracted to the SP before I shell out tht kind of cash or I'll wind up with an experience like my last one, which was horrible. I suppose I should only be taking interest with Ada that post all the information up front. But what do I do if the information is very limited? It's not fair to say I am indecisive. It's just that a particular service may or may not be cost prohibiive. If I could afford it I would just go on a sexcation!! Lol to the SP's credit the 'booker' did eventually reply and told me she povides gfe only and did give me details about the scarring etc I asked about. They also sent nice quality images of a few other girls apparently available who were great looking but did not elaborate on the services they provide. I'm still not 100% sure about what is or is not okay to ask but with the information I hav gotten from you fine folks I should be able to refine my future communications. A good point was made about the all nighter. I should probably see how the first date goes before I book an entire evening. Sorry for the short blocky post, I'm attempting to do this from my cell which is a real pain. Also I wanted to apologize for posting te SP's name!!! WHOOPS! won't happen again. Cheers Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour 3970 Report post Posted October 27, 2009 Hi all, I am wondering, in terms of etiquette, what is right or wrong to ask an SP prior to service. I'm sorry if this is answered somewhere else on the forum but I am a newb and I'm still getting used to this forum so please take it easy on me. I'll describe a recent email I sent to an SP on Cl... I know I know... Actually, I'll just copy and past the email and maybe some of you can give me your opinion. I never got a response back from the SP... It was actually someone who "does the booking for ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** who can be found on CL in Red Deer. The booker, so to speak, sent me a few photos which were really blurry and the ad didn't describe what services would be provided or the rates.... Really the ad was just a stunning beauty with a bit of info and a contact. Anyway, here's the email... Hi there, Thanks for the quick response. I have a few questions and I hope none of them are offensive but I know what I want so I have to ask. The pics are pretty blurry, does she have any tattoos or scars which would possibly be a turn off? I'm sorry to ask but the last date I had gave birth via csection and I had a hard time getting past that. What services does ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** provide? GFE, PSE etc etc. Does she have any specific things she DOES NOT do. Is she willing to wear a specific outfit (I really like the schoolgirl picture you sent). Does she do outcalls or incalls? How much advance notice does she need for a specific date and time. Lastly I need rates. Like I said before I know what I want and I want a lot of it. Depending on the rate I might book her for an overnight so I need to know the hourly rate and overnight rate please. One last thing actually, does she do threesomes? If she does is there a particular girl and could I see pics/rates for that service. Sorry for all the questions. ****SP's NAME WAS REMOVED**** looks great so I can't wait to hear back. So it goes without saying that maybe asking about scars/tattoos was a bit insensitive but this is where I get confused.... I really don't want to make a date and then be disappointed when I see the SP so I figure in lieu of wasting both of our time I would just be up front.... :oops::oops: What do you folks think? I sure hope I wasn't too harsh... And if I was I would greatly appreciate a little guidance :neutral: Cheers First off - you've asked for guidance and I will offer mine - it may differ from mainstream opinion here, however c'est la vie. You were responding to a CL ad - some may argue that CL has a lot of B&S - that may be true, however there are legit providers that advertise via CL in order to cast a wider advertising net While the general tone of your email was polite, someone may be offended with certain questions thus prompting the no-reply - tattoos and scars are personal and what may be a turn on for some may be a turn off for others - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. when communicating for purposes of getting information or scheduling a date, no provider wants to know about your last date. A provider asking for a reference from another SP (as part of a screening process) is different from an SP wanting to know what your last date looked like or what she did to you GFE/PSE are subjective terms and mean different things to different people - you did ask about services not offered, good on you. rates (hourly and overnight)....at this point the lady in question may be thinking you are not a serious client, a tire kicker if you wish - you have not met, you do not know if you will have any chemistry and you're asking about an overnight appointment - chalk this up to inexperience. Put yourself in the provider's shoes - would you want to schedule an extended visit and have awkward silence or worse realize you have zero chemistry and compatibility and have to call the evening? Most providers that accommodate overnight rates do not do so on a first date and will only do so with repeat clients they have a rapport/trust relationship with asking about overnight donation and then a threesome would likely solidify the belief you were kicking the tires and not serious about booking. repeatedly asking for rates and more pics (duo partner) might also give that appearance of just another voyeur trying to get his rocks off without making a booking A few general comments: try to place yourself in the provider's shoes - how would you respond to these types of questions from a total stranger? Then multiply that by say 100 emails per day. After a while of reading the same questions, requests, it does take it's toll. From a client perspective, yes - you're paying for a service - actually, you're paying for time, anything that happens is between two or more consenting adults :wink: - however, this is another person with emotions and feelings and should not be made to fell like a commodity. Trying to be objective, B$S operators do not care about quality service nor good customer relations. Sometimes, honest open communication from a potential client to a legit provider does not get any response for different reasons - people may be in a bad mood, the content of the communication may be misunderstood, people just can't be bothered, whatever. Chalk it up to lessons learnt and move on. Hope this helps. Happy travels. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottanon 2930 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I find if I like the looks and the chemistry is there when we meet, anything I ask for I get. I cant remember when I was last disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted October 28, 2009 I didn't see anything particularly offensive about your email, though perhaps keep the details of your last date to yourself. I have tattoos and piercings and I'm not offended if someone asks me if I have some (though I do wonder if they've bothered to look at my website which has plenty of unblurry photos of me, that show I have tats). I understand that you don't want to waste your money and have an enjoyable experience, but writing things like, "I know what I want and I want a lot of it" come off as slightly arrogant. As someone else stated, a simple, concise email can go a long way: ie. Hi, I saw your ad and I would like to book an appointment, but I have a couple of questions regarding what services you do or do not provide. If you could also let me know your rates, that would be much appreciated. I couldn't tell from your photos if you have tattoos, but could you let me know if you do? Thanks. That's it, that's all it takes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreekFreak 101 Report post Posted October 29, 2009 Thanks Erin. I hear you loud and clear. I have learned. Not to say that makes it any less humiliating at this point lol cheers I didn't see anything particularly offensive about your email, though perhaps keep the details of your last date to yourself. I have tattoos and piercings and I'm not offended if someone asks me if I have some (though I do wonder if they've bothered to look at my website which has plenty of unblurry photos of me, that show I have tats). I understand that you don't want to waste your money and have an enjoyable experience, but writing things like, "I know what I want and I want a lot of it" come off as slightly arrogant. As someone else stated, a simple, concise email can go a long way: ie. Hi, I saw your ad and I would like to book an appointment, but I have a couple of questions regarding what services you do or do not provide. If you could also let me know your rates, that would be much appreciated. I couldn't tell from your photos if you have tattoos, but could you let me know if you do? Thanks. That's it, that's all it takes. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted October 29, 2009 Thanks Erin. I hear you loud and clear. I have learned. Not to say that makes it any less humiliating at this point lol cheers Posted via Mobile Device Don't feel humiliated, how else are you going to learn, if not from your mistakes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites