Bad Experiences

[mod 135640]

Where are the bad experiences for us girls???????????? I am willing to pay for a place where we could "privately"write and share the "bad ones"

Looking forward to hear some news about this....

Trace

 

This site does have a private SP ONLY area for BAD DATES (Violent, drunk, scary situations, etc..) but we do not allow unjust slander just because you don't like someone. PM me if you wish to gain access to the SP ONLY area (any SP can PM me for this info if they wish).

 

I ask questions. When we meet, and I find out that the answers are lies, then I am outta there (especially if she lies about not having a penis). Don't kid yourself. Anything is possible.

 

As you should! Bait and switch is a BIG problem in this industry. It damages the integrity of all the legit advertisers. If someone shows you a fake photo or tells you they are a 100lbs and are actually 200+ (or visaversa) than you have been bait and switched. You can post about this such thing here within reason.

 

If for example you asked "are you overweight" and they said no and showed up and had a little belly... your being a jerk if you say you got bait and switched. If you ask "do you kiss" and you showed up with nasty breath or rotten teeth and she said "No, I don't wish to kiss" then again.. this is not her fault so make sure you realize this and don't get mad at her.

 

Here on cerb if you get bait and switched with photos and you can first hand confirm they are fake (or) if you can use something like tineye or cowboys diary to prove they are fake you can post it here in the bait and switch.

 

If you post and it turns out the photos are in fact real you will be the one in hot water as we would consider that an attempt to slander a legit sp and you would loose your membership here.

 

Hope that clears it up a little more...

[dunkinsailor 1220]

Has there ever been an attempt to organize an sp association in Canada, with a charter and their own guidelines for sharing info and helping protect sp rights?

[Guest s******ecan****]

 

Here on cerb if you get bait and switched with photos and you can first hand confirm they are fake (or) if you can use something like tineye or cowboys diary to prove they are fake you can post it here in the bait and switch.

 

If you post and it turns out the photos are in fact real you will be the one in hot water as we would consider that an attempt to slander a legit sp and you would loose your membership here.

 

Hope that clears it up a little more...

 

and Gents you have to be reasonable about what "bait and switch" really means. Many of the ladies have wonderful professionally done photos. This is how they are in the best lighting and most flattering poses. When you see the lady in the real buff remember; the studio lights are gone, she may be wearing different lingerie, the setting is different, yada yada yada.

 

She is going to appear more natural so don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and manage your expectations accordingly.

 

;-)

[mod 135640]

Has there ever been an attempt to organize an sp association in Canada, with a charter and their own guidelines for sharing info and helping protect sp rights?

 

Yes, a number of these organizations exist across the country and with the help of the internet (and some positive media for a change) they are growing in popularity.

[fortunateone 156618]

Here is a great example of a bad experience without actually naming the party. Amelia wrote something in a another section in the forum here about her discomfort with certain clients during "oral proceedings". I really admire her for putting her issue out like that. It is not the individual rather it is the action. Although common in many aspects of sexual experience, the "roughness" of certain actions does create discomfort for some women. So, because she finds the experience uncomfortable and teeth gritting, she voiced her thoughts and set the rules. This can work both ways. If one of us guys have one or more bad experiences, we should share the experience without placing any name tags on it.

 

One of my bad experiences was being told by a girl that she was athletic, blonde, and attractive. However, when we met, I was still looking for this other woman. It was very awkward. She was obese, brunette, and smelled funny - like burnt rubber is the only way I can describe it. It is like she just left a tire burning event or something. It was rather horrible. I told her that she wasn't my type and I split. Jeezus, what a sexy little kitten that was.

 

There does seem to be some misleading during duscussions with some girls. I suspect that they are either trying to pique interest and curiousity so an encounter will occur, or she is totally convinced she is some or all of what she is not.

 

I ask questions, such as:

 

Do you smoke?

Do you do drugs or abuse alcohol when dating?

Age?

How tall are you?

HAir color?

Physical condition?

You don't have a penis do you?

 

... I ask questions. When we meet, and I find out that the answers are lies, then I am outta there (especially if she lies about not having a penis). Don't kid yourself. Anything is possible.

 

What I personally do is make sure I lower expectations, and repeat some of the things that I am and am not. I hope that given all of that, they can be pleasantly surprised when they arrive. The point being that they are using more than pictures in the first place when they choose to see a mature massage plus provider. I offer what they are looking for, including maturity, and if I can also be beautiful in their eyes, they find this to be a bonus. I just make sure that they are not expecting young and beautiful, but older and attractive, not perfect but friendly.

 

I am just going to select the questions that, imo, are worthless to you. For the simple fact that anyone who is a "yes" to these is going to say no regardless, plus it offends good reputable sps to have someone imply that we are all drug addicts, by that particular question. Anyone who asks me that gets the "sorry, I can't help you. Good luck in your search". Already, before we meet, all I am hearing is that you either have expectations that are too high, you personally are high maintenance, you have a negative attitude, and are not easy going and go with the flow. In my experience, these are the sort of clients to avoid.

 

Here are the questions you should not bother asking:

 

Do you do drugs or abuse alcohol when dating?

She is not going to say "yes, I ABUSE drugs and alcohol" even if she is falling down drunk when she says it. This is where common sense comes in.

Age?

This should be indicated in the ad. Don't expect her to vary from it just because you ask.

Physical condition?

If you mean general physical description, fine. Why not ask instead "Can you describe yourself to me, I don't have your ad in front of me right now." I get the sense tho that your question is an attempt to find out if she is a bbw posing as a super model. She is not going to tell you this outright if she is lol.

You don't have a penis do you?

Such a question is so offensive I can't imagine how you would expect any sp to provide you with a good time after proving she does not have a penis. Seriously, half the questions are really offensive, and guaranteed to ensure you are going to have less than exceptional sessions lol, as the ones who would provide exceptional sessions would get ticked off and not see you lol. :butt:

[dunkinsailor 1220]

You don't have a penis do you?

Maybe do a bit more screening if she answers "God yes! I've got a whole collection of them in my basement freezer"

[Floyd 130]

What I personally do is make sure I lower expectations, and repeat some of the things that I am and am not. I hope that given all of that, they can be pleasantly surprised when they arrive.

 

I don't raise or lower my expectations as a client. In a blind situation I do expect her to look and be as she describes herself in the event there is no website or image anywhere to be seen.

 

I offer what they are looking for, including maturity, and if I can also be beautiful in their eyes, they find this to be a bonus. I just make sure that they are not expecting young and beautiful, but older and attractive, not perfect but friendly.

 

This is a unique service industry whereas the service is impressionistic of fantasy and a sexual relationship. It is not a usual service such as that of a restaurant. If I was at a restaurant, I would be there to order food. I wouldn't care how good looking the waitress who is serving it is, or how old she is. (pretty waitresses are certainly nice to look at though, don't get me wrong). If I am going to engage in an erotic or casual dating experience, I will only do so if there is some connection. If there is no connection, then it is not going to be an exciting and memorable experience. To be frank, without connection it just isn't going to happen.

 

I am just going to select the questions that, imo, are worthless to you. For the simple fact that anyone who is a "yes" to these is going to say no regardless,....

 

Let me tell you something. One of the gals I met on a blind looked like a facking mummy. She told me she was 28. I'm serious. She had to be 50ish and totally unappealing. She was nothing that she described herself to be. That was a total waste of time.

 

I prefer picky women. Younger than 35. If I'd have asked more questions first then this could have been avoided. Ask the right questions and listen for obvious clues of deception. Solves the problem. Not everyone is deceptive regarding what they are all about in relation to service and appearance. Some are though.

 

...plus it offends good reputable sps to have someone imply that we are all drug addicts,...

 

Good reputable service providers would understand!

 

Anyone who asks me that gets the "sorry, I can't help you. Good luck in your search". Already, before we meet, all I am hearing is that you either have expectations that are too high, you personally are high maintenance, you have a negative attitude, and are not easy going and go with the flow. In my experience, these are the sort of clients to avoid.

 

Like I said. I am picky.

 

Do you do drugs or abuse alcohol when dating? She is not going to say "yes, I ABUSE drugs and alcohol" even if she is falling down drunk when she says it. This is where common sense comes in.

 

Lots of people smoke grass. I don't smoke anything. I don't drink. I don't even drink coffee. If she smokes or drinks it is not the end of the world. I like sober women who smell good and not like burnt grass or leaves. It is all about preferance.

 

Age?This should be indicated in the ad. Don't expect her to vary from it just because you ask. .

 

The ad is only as honest as the one who wrote it. If she appeals to me based on my standards then great.

 

Physical condition? If you mean general physical description, fine. Why not ask instead "Can you describe yourself to me, I don't have your ad in front of me right now." I get the sense tho that your question is an attempt to find out if she is a bbw posing as a super model. She is not going to tell you this outright if she is lol..

 

Obesity, ill appearance, super model look and attitudes, and poor hygiene are no no's. If you ask for sa general description, depending on the individual, it sounds as if it is scripted. Those are clear indicators.

 

Seriously, half the questions are really offensive, and guaranteed to ensure you are going to have less than exceptional sessions lol, as the ones who would provide exceptional sessions would get ticked off and not see you lol.

 

Consider it the cost of doing business. She'll get over it. The service is only as good as the one providing it. I prefer to ask questions to ensure quality. it works both ways, remember. There has to be a connection and it is not about get in, get er done and get out. That is not good service.

[Guest M***ell***A]

If you ask for sa general description, depending on the individual, it sounds as if it is scripted. Those are clear indicators.

 

I think it's important to remember that we get asked this question several times a day. It's very easy to sound "scripted" after saying the same thing over and over again and does not necessarily mean that the information being given is false.

[Guest s******ecan****]

Let me tell you something. One of the gals I met on a blind looked like a facking mummy. She told me she was 28. I'm serious. She had to be 50ish and totally unappealing. She was nothing that she described herself to be. That was a total waste of time.

 

This is however an example of "bait and switch" and CERB does provide a way for you to report these experiences. Reputable well reviewed ladies on CERB are easy to find. As for the blind ads or the CL listings well they are a crapshoot...thats why we refer to it as TOFTT when a member tries one out.

 

If you see a reputable SP listed here on CERB and there is no connection or the date wasn't as enjoyable as you hoped, just don't give a review. If you get baited and switched report it.

[Floyd 130]

I think it's important to remember that we get asked this question several times a day. It's very easy to sound "scripted" after saying the same thing over and over again and does not necessarily mean that the information being given is false.

 

Oh yes, I do understand when you have to repeat the same thing over and over again it becomes a monotonic function. The solution to this would be to open a website perhaps and she can direct people to it.

 

I prefer to date those who actually have websites. A little transparency goes a long way. Agree?

[fortunateone 156618]

I don't raise or lower my expectations as a client. In a blind situation I do expect her to look and be as she describes herself in the event there is no website or image anywhere to be seen.

 

 

 

This is a unique service industry whereas the service is impressionistic of fantasy and a sexual relationship. It is not a usual service such as that of a restaurant. If I was at a restaurant, I would be there to order food. I wouldn't care how good looking the waitress who is serving it is, or how old she is. (pretty waitresses are certainly nice to look at though, don't get me wrong). If I am going to engage in an erotic or casual dating experience, I will only do so if there is some connection. If there is no connection, then it is not going to be an exciting and memorable experience. To be frank, without connection it just isn't going to happen.

 

 

 

Let me tell you something. One of the gals I met on a blind looked like a facking mummy. She told me she was 28. I'm serious. She had to be 50ish and totally unappealing. She was nothing that she described herself to be. That was a total waste of time.

 

I prefer picky women. Younger than 35. If I'd have asked more questions first then this could have been avoided. Ask the right questions and listen for obvious clues of deception. Solves the problem. Not everyone is deceptive regarding what they are all about in relation to service and appearance. Some are though.

 

 

 

Good reputable service providers would understand!

 

 

 

Like I said. I am picky.

 

 

 

Lots of people smoke grass. I don't smoke anything. I don't drink. I don't even drink coffee. If she smokes or drinks it is not the end of the world. I like sober women who smell good and not like burnt grass or leaves. It is all about preferance.

 

 

 

The ad is only as honest as the one who wrote it. If she appeals to me based on my standards then great.

 

 

 

Obesity, ill appearance, super model look and attitudes, and poor hygiene are no no's. If you ask for sa general description, depending on the individual, it sounds as if it is scripted. Those are clear indicators.

 

 

 

Consider it the cost of doing business. She'll get over it. The service is only as good as the one providing it. I prefer to ask questions to ensure quality. it works both ways, remember. There has to be a connection and it is not about get in, get er done and get out. That is not good service.

 

My whole point was that when you ask the sorts of questions you have listed here, everyone (honest or dishonest) is going to give you the same answer. That makes your questions, as you have posted them which is all I have to judge you by, useless. If you are now saying that you do have other sorts of questions that can be a little more diplomatic, in order to get the information that you are looking for, by all means share.

I don't think you understand that if someone is lying in their ad, they will also lie when you ask them, on the phone or email, whether or not they are lying in their ad. If you ask a reputable sp, who has taken the time to present herself professionally and honestly, these same questions in the way you have presented them, chances are she will not reply. And guess what, your opportunity to actually book an appointment with someone who is true to their ad just flew out the window, making it much more likely that you are going to continue to have bad experiences over and over and over again, until you finally figure out that it is you, not them, who is doing this to you.

 

Clearly you are someone who is only going to be happy with escorts who provide full 3d images, several reliable reviews, and so on. Which is fine, but if you stray from choosing them this way then you might limit your choices seriously.

[Floyd 130]

I do get your point. Asking questions and engaging in mild conversation is how I find out if there is connection. I think your issue is all in the manner in which I composed those questions. From a contextual point they do appear to be bold and "in your face" types of inquiries. But how will I know if I don't ask? You are right - no one is going to come out and say that they are fat, unhealthy, and ugly. There are quite a few of these out there though. Not here, but they are out there. I happen to have standards and I do not compromise on those. A woman has to be attractive and healthy to attract me. I am picky.

 

My bad experiences have only been those who engage in that "bait and switch" that another member here educated me about. That happened twice in blind situations. The most obvious deceptions are age and weight. Sometimes girls exaggerate the mathematics. Perhaps some people do not care who they share encounters with. I do though. FYI - I have had great experiences also, and please don't take offense to what I wrote.

 

I do not require a 3-d image. I just like some transparency. Reviews are what they are. Some are real. some aren't. I get that. I dpo prefer to limit my choices because I just want to spend time with someone on a regular basis. someone who I get along with, can share with, and connect without the commitment of a dedicated relationship. Friends with benefits they call it. Does this make sense?

 

Why with a "service provider"? ... I say why not? I do not judge nor do I express any prejudice.

[mod 135640]

You won't be finding any negative reviews on cerb, if you do flag them as they will be deleted and the person writing them will be in trouble as this is not the site for them.

 

So can we move on now? This could go back and forth and even get nasty and we want to avoid that (keep it happy here). Focus on the GOOD and appreciate the GOOD. If someone have a wonderful time with a lady and wishes to let everyone know about it this is the place to do it.

 

It's a lot harder to say ONE nice thing about someone than to say TEN bad things about TEN different people. - MOD 2009