someguy 67067 Report post Posted October 26, 2013 Just wanted to see what hobbyiest and SP's think of 15 minute sessions. There must be a need as I see more SP's offering it. But for me short session is 45 minutes. I like one hr sessions. I've done only 1 30 minute session, but found it too short to have fun and get to know someone. In 15 minutes, I assume the clock starts when the door open. That's not enough time to take your clothes off, take a shower and chat a bit. I mean, it must be a real quicky to be in and out of so fast? I guess for some guy's it's all they need to get off quick. But where's the fun in all this. I like to get to know the woman and spend time kissing and chatting first. What's your opinion and experiences with the 15 minutes session? Just interested in peoples opinions from both sides of the fence. Hope to hear some interesting discussions. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted October 26, 2013 For me that is enough time to answer the door, let the lady in pour the glass of wine and we start the conversation, either getting to know one another if the companion and I don't know each other, or reconnecting if I'm having a encounter with a companion who is more a friend. I personally prefer longer encounters, now I like four hour encounter. And I have had very memorable encounters where roughly two and a half hours of that four hours were spent in the living room of the hotel suite with the lady just reconnecting and enjoying each other's company. So for me, and speaking for me only, a fifteen minute encounter would be a very empty encounter, serving primarily one purpose. That is not to criticize those that seek such encounters out, it's just not for me A rambling RG 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted October 26, 2013 I've offered them on two occasions. 1) When I started to be an SP, I was living with roomates and had a really limited windows to offer incall so 15 minutes was better than a 4 hours session 2) When I had two regular that were clock wise, to see me two or three time a week for an in-out BJ during their lunch break. When I was in Ottawa, I used to live really close to gov building office My own personal opinion? I don'T like them. That's when I felt "use" as a whore, prostitute so to say and not as a human being , someone with feelings that may like to also receive a little of attention, be it a caress, kiss, slow lick I don't offer them anymore and will more likely soon remove the 30 minutes appointments. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest a**4* Report post Posted October 26, 2013 A 15 minute encounter for me serves no purpose not enough time to get to know each other or catch up on other thing I perfer longer encounters hour and half -two hours even then it is still not enough time may have to have longer encounters that is my two cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted October 26, 2013 Takes me that long to get my shoes off :). 30-45 min is perfect for me. Anything longer than that and I'd be the one watching the clock. Peace MG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happyjack 1090 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 For me 15 minutes would be too short. Actually 30 minutes is really too short as well. I wish more SPs offered 45 minute appointments. I usually do appointments during the day and an hour is a bit long for me to be away from work but 45 minutes would be just perfect! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 It does seem to cheapen the whole thing. For myself, i don't see the point of offering anyone a rate option for this. If someone is in a big rush or finds they don't take more than 14 minutes i don't see why they can't just take the time they want to take, and compensate the sp for the half hour, because that is the time she is providing. That is also what it is costing her to give a lower rate for a 15 minute time session, she is giving up the chance of a half hour or hour appointment for very little return. Let's be realistic, no sp offering 15 minute sessions should expect that client to be in her place more than 16 minutes door to door otherwise, why isn't he paying for a half hour?. And how can anyone reasonably expect the sp to not watch the clock, to ensure he is not taking advantage of this option, in order to stay longer but pay for less. It seems like a very fine line. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I enjoy 15 minute appointments all the time. With my hand.... With a lady however, I just don't see the value in it. Anything less than two hours leaves me feeling that I have short changed myself. Yes, it means I get to play less often but at this point in my life quality over quantity wins every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 15 minuets isn't long enough to get to know you enough to know whether or not we should actually be naked together. I have a 2 hour minimum for a reason. If it isn't fun for me then I'm not playing. I do understand there are those on a limited time frame but I genuinely believe that they never get out the door in 15 mins thus they should take a 30 min option offered by those providers that specialize in in shorter visits. I just don't get 15 min sessions... cat 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad 49548 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Well I think 15 minute sessions are great...so great in fact that I always book at least 4 of them back to back! :icon_wink: 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 As an SP, I offer an "experience" not to be a "cum bucket" for someone's release for lack of better words. No thanks. If I'm going to be just a release for somone, they are going to be paying for it. I'm not a machine and a 15 min appt is not worth it to me since it takes the same amount of time to set up and get ready. Then there is the aspect of those trying to get more time for free and then there is the volume where how many clients are coming and going in a day. I am a very discrete person and would never allow this to happen when I can make more on a single appt alone. I'm not an avid clock watcher but when someone texts me with a laundry lists of specific acts they want for $60 for 15 mins or expect what they would get in a 30 or 60 min appt, do yourself a favor a favor and go to a street corner. I take time and pride in what I do and myself and my surroundings reflect that as well. I have no interest in doing these types of appts and contrary to men who are fans of 15 min service, you get what you pay for. In a fantasy world, if I did one of these 15 mins appts, it would be the bare minimum. Why should I go out of my way when someone is attempting to negotiate my rates? Why should I go the extra mile? I had someone text me once and said they only needed 5 mins of my time for $20. DELETE! If you're looking for a 15 min session then more power to you but don't expect the world for $60. Last year a 15 min appt was $100. Then it went to $80 and now guys are demanding $60. The reason this is happening because women let them. They get into this business with no training from an agency. They have a cell phone, put up a BP ad and call themselves an escort. Then some men bully them into giving them service for $60 -$80 and often times let manipulate them into staying overtime for the same rate. Some of these women don't know any better. The real sense of having an experience with an escort is long forgotten such as when I first started as an SP. That whole aspect has been thrown out the window and it's all about how a man can get off in the shortest amount of time with the lowest amount of cash to offer. Thankfully there are men out there who appreciate SPs and the time together. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeRichards 177238 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 15 minutes eh ? Shoe laces in a knot - 30 seconds Zipper stuck !!!! Fuck !!!!! How long is this gonna take ? Tic toc Tic toc....What to do ......what to do ????? Gotta be back to work in 25 minutes damnitt !!! Can't be workin with ripped open zipper and the horsey hanging outta the barn now can we ? Connundrum Hehe Silly but could happen ?? Hour and half minimum less than the time frame I like to spend but to each his own. When I get older in a couple years or so and I might not be sure where I am after fifteen minutes it might be a good idea tho. ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad 49548 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) For some reason I can't help but picture this: But yeah, no judgement on others, to me it sounds more stressful than fun. If I'm going to get to enjoy an encounter, I want to it to be a real experience. Hard to do that when you've given yourself less time than the previews last at a movie. Edited October 27, 2013 by Brad 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yabut 1460 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 15 minutes is just far to fast for me, like to at least sit and have some sort of conversation before getting going and my god all I can see if its 15 minutes its all about myself so I guess my DATY would be out the window and what fun would that be. Shit I would go over with just the daty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Get em in Get em up Get em off Get em out That's what a 15 minute session is all about. Not much fun for the lady. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 To each their own. This may work for some, but I'm not interested. I've just recently stopped offering 1/2 hours as well. Those who've met me know I like to talk and warm up to the person, anything less than an hour just doesn't allow for that. I want to meet more than a penis and I want him to know me for more than my pussy;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest B**na***oy Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Obviously, the 15 minutes option exists because there is a demand from some men. It's definitely not an option that would be offered on it's own merit by most ladies in the escorting industry, as it's just not worth the trouble. Personally, I find 15 minutes encounters come short of my expectations by at least 45 minutes. As well, the consensus among CERB members appears to be that we seek more connection based sensual encounters rather than raw sex. As long as there will be a demand, some of the less experienced ladies will feel pressured to provide the service. As much as I want no part of it, it's part of the freedom we all enjoy in our society and as long as it happens between two consenting adults, I'm OK with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someguy 67067 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I'm glad to see that most people here agree that 15 minutes is not enough. I think the men and women of Cerb are here for the total experience. The chemistry, connection, the kissing and cuddling. The conversation. The whole GFE experience. It's not about just the sex for most people. Of course that is good too :). It's about the time spent together, getting to know each other before the intimate act. And hoping that there are more future encounters that get better and better each time. It's not Wham Bam Thank you Mam for most of the gentlemen here. We like to take our time and savour every moment with the beautiful sexy women of Cerb. I hope that I speak for most of men here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyaccount 15793 Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Let's do some time math for a quickie: Before deed: -Get in the door, say hello, untie & remove shoes, take coat off and hang up: 5 minutes (stuck coat zipper, add 1 minute; knot in laces, add 1 minute) -Give donation: 1 minute -Quickie hand wash: 1 minute -Take cloths off without rips or popped buttons: 2 minutes (stuck pants zipper, add 1 minute) -Quick minimal hand wash: 0.5 minutes After deed: -Quick minimal wash-up: 1 minute -Put cloths on, neat & tidy: 3 minutes -Put shoes & coat on: 2 minutes So far, were up to 15.5 minutes, without the eventualities added in. Maybe with practice my times could be improved, but even with a half-hour session, 14.5 minutes left for fun-time isn't enough for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted October 27, 2013 I think your math is way off :) Before deed:-Get in the door, say hello, untie & remove shoes, take coat off and hang up: 5 minutes (stuck coat zipper, add 1 minute; knot in laces, add 1 minute) - Get in the door, say hello, slide off loafers, take off coat and toss on chair: 3 Minutes -Give donation: 1 minute - Give donation: 10 sec. from pocket to table -Quickie hand wash: 1 minute - I'm guessing the 15min crowd skip this step but I'll give it to you: 1 minute -Take cloths off without rips or popped buttons: 2 minutes (stuck pants zipper, add 1 minute) - Undo belt, unzip pants and let drop to ankles: 30 sec -Quick minimal hand wash: 0.5 minutes - Why are you washing your hands again? How dirty were your clothes? After deed:-Quick minimal wash-up: 1 minute - Granted: 1 Minute -Put cloths on, neat & tidy: 3 minutes - Pull up, zip up, belt up: 1 minute -Put shoes & coat on: 2 minutes - slip on shoes: 30 sec (you can do the coat in the elevator) So far, were up to 15.5 minutes, without the eventualities added in. - New time: 7 minutes 10 seconds leaving almost 8 full minutes to have the most fulfilling sexual experience of your life :) Hmmm.....maybe it's time I rethink my approach to all of this. Here I've been wasting all this time, lounging around in bed kissing and cuddling with beautiful women. Allowing myself enough time for lengthy foreplay and sex more than once. I'm such a sucker ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwertyaccount 15793 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 I think your math is way off... There is only one way to work this out that I can think of, but do you think the ladies would be offended or just confused if I handed them a stopwatch and clipboard as soon as I arrived? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo Catra 178382 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 Just came to read this thread for the first time and... OUCH people! Wow is all i can say to some of these responses. I used to regularly offer 15-minute encounters when I started in the industry. A lot of guys liked it as a 'quick introduction' and would book longer the next time. They NEVER made me feel cheapened or like cum dumpster. I don't offer them regularly anymore (I don't really offer anything less than an hour) because I personally prefer longer encounters - but I would never, EVER judge someone for wanting a quick release. And I definitely would never demean a woman for offering it. If you need more than 15 minutes, great! You're in a place where many ladies specialize in longer encounters. The 'full experience' so to speak. But some guys can only afford a quick bj. Or maybe their SO is watching their time so really that's all they can fit in. ANd maybe the SP needs to money to pay her rent. If it doesn't work for you, then find what works - but why in the world are people judging and saying things like 'Okay great, glad to see people don't want these encounters'. All you're doing in insulting the people who DO, and the girls who DO offer them. And you know what? I do have one regular gent who pops in when he can for a quick BJ. I like it. He walks in, I get on my knees, and I get him off. Do you think that cheapens me? If you do, I shake my head at you, seriously. I thought this site was the place to keep it to yourself if you're not saying anything nice... well judging and insulting others for their choice of encounters is doing the exact opposite. 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ***nno**n*** Report post Posted October 31, 2013 I can't see myself ever being a 15 minute woman. I like to play too, plus that's almost no time for round 2 and not trying twice doesnt work for me. I'm sure there is a demand for 15 minutes, and as long as their is someone will provide it. For someone who wants to "try me first" 15 minutes is not the way to go. Give me a couple hours to show what I can really do I think each lady will have her own preference and what works for her. Simply put, I need more time. I frequently go over my hour because i don't like a clock telling me when I'm done. 15 minutes would suck for me. That's like using an egg timer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted November 2, 2013 Just came to read this thread for the first time and... OUCH people! Wow is all i can say to some of these responses. I used to regularly offer 15-minute encounters when I started in the industry. A lot of guys liked it as a 'quick introduction' and would book longer the next time. They NEVER made me feel cheapened or like cum dumpster. I don't offer them regularly anymore (I don't really offer anything less than an hour) because I personally prefer longer encounters - but I would never, EVER judge someone for wanting a quick release. And I definitely would never demean a woman for offering it. If you need more than 15 minutes, great! You're in a place where many ladies specialize in longer encounters. The 'full experience' so to speak. But some guys can only afford a quick bj. Or maybe their SO is watching their time so really that's all they can fit in. ANd maybe the SP needs to money to pay her rent. If it doesn't work for you, then find what works - but why in the world are people judging and saying things like 'Okay great, glad to see people don't want these encounters'. All you're doing in insulting the people who DO, and the girls who DO offer them. And you know what? I do have one regular gent who pops in when he can for a quick BJ. I like it. He walks in, I get on my knees, and I get him off. Do you think that cheapens me? If you do, I shake my head at you, seriously. I thought this site was the place to keep it to yourself if you're not saying anything nice... well judging and insulting others for their choice of encounters is doing the exact opposite. Just read this now. Respectfully Cleo, it was not my intent to insult other ladies who offer 15 min appts. I was simply saying that it makes me feel a certain way ( i.e. a device for a quick release rather than feeling like I'm being treated like a person) and especially since I DON'T offer these sessions and make it quite clear in my ads. Receiving these requests after those who don't decide to fully read my ad is annoying and shows that they clearly are dismissive of my boundaries. And imo, that is the height of ignorance. Those are my feelings and we are all entitled to what we feel and what we are willing to offer and not offer. While you may feel differently, we are all different and provide different experiences as service providers. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liv Waters 52360 Report post Posted November 2, 2013 I really like what you posted here Cleo. I personally just can't and won't do short encounters like this , but, I don't think that's what these threads about short versus longer encounters end up about anyway (that is the direction this thread has taken); that is, personal preference and mere discussion about the ins and outs of such service offerings. They clearly take on a tone of debasement and abjection and we should all know by now who the stigma largely clings to. To be clear, this statement is not about reducing any one particular comment made by my fellow members to a sum total judgement, but rather, reflects an observation about the overall character such discussion has taken on....and, tends to take on... I was contacted recently by a man who wanted a half hour session with me. When I informed him it was a one hour minimum, he became irate and disrespectful and continued on trying to negotiate obtaining my services anyway...as though I was some sort of irritating pylon to get by to get by to reach his single-minded end-goal. When I told him it was clear to me we were not a good fit due to the hostility I was sensing, he proceeded to tell me I was essentially a 'fat cum dump anyway'. I was astonished. Some say I shouldn't be; that such qualifying, hateful remarks are all around and to be expected here and there if I'm going to remain in the industry. It doesn't matter if it was transparent and pathetic; after all, he'd been interested and turned on enough to contact me! It still hurt, and went to the core of my being. I agree with you, Nicolette (Vaughn), that it is truly upsetting when men seeking our services do not respect our boundaries.....who assert an automatic sense of entitlement to access our time and our bodies without respect for the business model we are going by and the parameters we have set. There is a word for what underpins this; misogyny. This hateful phone call and the length of session of offer, while seemingly a crux of the conflict, was not the problem. So, again, and this is not directed at anyone in particular (at all!), the tone of this kind of discussion so often ends up stigmatizing (mainly) Service Providers while doing little else... Like folks such as Cleo & Kathryn Bardot have highlighted: seek out the services you wish to access, and take the time to inform yourself in advance via ads and personal websites about what is on offer. And, be prepared to accept our answers! And, at the level of our participation on the forum, let's be mindful of how our words and ideas transform themselves from mere subject content and 'free' and 'open' discussion to qualifying value judgments about the relative value of our colleagues, and the customers they bring pleasure to. Service Providers have their reasons for doing things the way they do. It is a highly competitive industry out there. Socio-economic privilege and access to certain markets play a huge role here, as do the personal motivations and short and long term economic goals and needs of SPs in making such determinations about how to run their businesses. Service Providers need our thoughtful care, affirmation and concern. Let's start more threads about that! My two cents! :-) Peace, Anna Additional Comments: p.s. my reference to the helpful commentary offered by Kathryn Bardot on this kind of topic comes from a similarly themed thread entitled "How about 20 or 40 minutes option?"...just wanted to clarify :-) 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites