havefun101 130 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 Hi everyone, just had a quick question, are there any ma available for the ottawa area that offer bbbj? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 That's not a service MAs offer - and even if they did we wouldn't be able to talk about it here 'cos it's illegal. But we have plenty of SPs who do - have a look through the SP ads and I'm sure you'll find someone... 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meaghan McLeod 179664 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 The best place to ask this question is in the FS discussion section. Here are the rules on discussing Massage Only (Non-FS) section. Massage Only (Cities with a dedicated MASSAGE ADVERTISING SECTION)In these cities the ads in the massage only section are for BODY RUB massage only (NO SEX ACTS INCLUDING ORAL TO BE ADVERTISED) Anyone offering massage with "sex acts of any kind for extras" must either advertise in the FS section (or) not mention the 'extras' in the ad text. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsaMassage 54318 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 I would like to quote Peachy on an earlier contribution on a different thread: .... " If you want a manual release you wouldn't go to a stripper, if you want a blow job you wouldn't go to a ma. I think you get the point. " 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 You joined CERB and some members cannot view your profile because it is set that way (blocked), but ALL ladies can especially Ma's. So again I'm surprised you put this thread out there. Oh, and the answer is "seek an Sp" Hi everyone, just had a quick question, are there any ma available for the ottawa area that offer bbbj? 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 actually I can't see his profile either and just speaking for myself i would NEVER see anyone who's profile i couldn't see. 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2013 It's really not fair that massage attendants have to answer this question over and over again. This is not a service that is usually provided in the ma service. Some may provide this but most don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 It's really not fair that massage attendants have to answer this question over and over again. If we did not have so many repeat threads/questions some would have nothing to post! lol Seems posting the same things over and over saves from looking around and reading!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2013 If we did not have so many repeat threads/questions some would have nothing to post! lol Seems posting the same things over and over saves from looking around and reading!!! Yes, it's not only repeating threads. So many massage attendants have to explain multiple times a day that they do not provide blow jobs or extras. If a gentleman wants to enjoy full service activities, he should pay full service prices and find full service providers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 Yes, it's not only repeating threads. So many massage attendants have to explain multiple times a day that they do not provide blow jobs or extras. If a gentleman wants to enjoy full service activities, he should pay full service prices and find full service providers. Of course but then its the same as an SP that clearly states she offers CBJ and gets asked if she offers BBBJ. Or the SP/MA that post a rate and is asked if she would offer her services for some ridiculous prices etc.... Some either don't read, don't know better or just don't give a shit!!! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havefun101 130 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused . I'm sorry and I'm not sure why u can't view my profile because I have it all set to "everyone " . Mod if you can please remove this thread. Sorry again for the Inconvenience. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Of course but then its the same as an SP that clearly states she offers CBJ and gets asked if she offers BBBJ. Or the SP/MA that post a rate and is asked if she would offer her services for some ridiculous prices etc.... Some either don't read, don't know better or just don't give a shit!!! I agree with what you have said but I still think it's not fair. As a matter of fact any of the examples that you have given, if they are clearly spelled out and are still challenged. It's just not right and it's not fair. As stated above any massage attendants that openly advertise blow jobs or extras will be advertising in the escort section. Edited November 25, 2013 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 I am not removing the thread, its a good educational tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Claire Heavens 51771 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 Pssst.... Some Independent MA's DO offer oral..... Im sure it's no secret. I might get into trouble here....but.... I am an MA, and.... I have offered oral. It's not advertised and it's not a guarantee.... it's a 'if it happens, it happens' kinda deal. I would never suggest any hobbiest seek an MA for anything extra especially at a spa tho. But at the same time I don't see the harm in asking for any service- so long as you only ask once and accept the answer gracefully. But chances are if you haven't met the girl yet.... the answer is NO. For me, YMMV is a true statement. Everything must be mutually desired. I can promise you a mediocre massage, a spectacular bodyslide, a shared shower (altho I do hog) and an explosive ending.... But I cant promise oral and I cant even promise kissing. Hygiene and personality can go a lonnnnng way. So can gum ;) Just sayin' ;) So for a better chance at MORE, meet the girl first..... Connections can sometimes change things. But NOT always. Your Truth Teller, C.Heavens 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 30, 2013 I guess I have the old school thinking that most ma's don't offer this. I guess this is why ma's are asked if they provide blow jobs. Opps, my bad! I guess for the one's that openly advertise this, you can find them in the escort section. Or as Clair stated ask politely and take no for an answer, if they don't provide this service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 Yes, it's not only repeating threads. So many massage attendants have to explain multiple times a day that they do not provide blow jobs or extras. If a gentleman wants to enjoy full service activities, he should pay full service prices and find full service providers. Probably the guy looking for a bj from a MA is the same type of guy who would ask a SP "how much for just a bj" Just trying another way of not having to pay a SP's (by seeing a MA) rate while seeking services normally offered by an SP Just my opinion RG 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 Probably the guy looking for a bj from a MA is the same type of guy who would ask a SP "how much for just a bj" Just trying another way of not having to pay a SP's (by seeing a MA) rate while seeking services normally offered by an SP Just my opinion RG In other words trying for a cheap deal!!! I like the direct approach lol! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 I was asked to remove the oral comment, instead I will clarify why I will allow this. If the INDIE MA works as OUTCALL or a SINGLE CALL HOTEL ROOM INCAL VISIT they are technically not breaking any laws. This does become prostitution when it goes beyond just a massage to include oral sex or intercourse so offering this or doing this in a massage spa it makes the spa become a COMMON BAWDY HOUSE and that would be very much illegal and I don't think anyone would ever be foolish enough to admit this happened in a public forum such as this.... not to mention I would need to remove the comment as we do NOT discuss ILLEGAL activities on this site. So... Don't assume Claire does this in a spa. She did say "Some Independent MA's DO offer oral" meaning NO SPA AFFILIATE (I hope that is what she means as that is what I read into this) If a SPA ATTENDANT offers a BJ you are NO LONGER IN A MASSAGE SPA you are in a brothel (AKA COMMON BAWDY HOUSE) DISGUISED as a SPA and at risk of being arrested for being in a common bawdy house if the place gets raided while you are inside. Guys... if you want a BJ or something more don't go to a SPA or a CLUB looking for this and if you find a spa where the girl offers this you may want to leave and maybe even send off a email to the spa as they may not know she is offering this either and putting them at risk. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2Legit 250 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 .... Guys... and maybe even send off a email to the spa as they may not know she is offering this either and putting them at risk. I respectfully disagree with the last statement. Will try to state it politely without implying anything about anyone: Not sure anyone wants to be labeled as a rat in life in general, and this is no exception. But this is just me who has witnessed the consequences of a wrongfully accused situation due to a rat. Best thing is walk away and forgetaboutit. At least this is what real men do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad 49548 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 I respectfully disagree with the last statement. Will try to state it politely without implying anything about anyone: Not sure anyone wants to be labeled as a rat in life in general, and this is no exception. But this is just me who has witnessed the consequences of a wrongfully accused situation due to a rat. Best thing is walk away and forgetaboutit. At least this is what real men do. I'm sorry but when I read those last two sentences it sounds like something from a prison or mafia movie. Maybe this makes me not a real man but I can think of plenty of situations in life where everyone would have been better off had someone spoken up when they witnessed a wrongdoing. Bullying or assaults certainly come to mind. Things like that continue and cause harm so often because no one does come forward. Now, a spa attendant offering an illegal service may not be at the same level as that, of course, but they are still putting their coworkers, visitors, and owners of the premise at great risk, without their knowledge. If they were doing something illegal that could only hurt themselves you might argue that it was their choice and should be left to them. But in this case if others acting in good faith end up arrested or closed down because someone else was being "a real man" I don't think they'll thank anyone. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loneskater 25635 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 I was asked to remove the oral comment, instead I will clarify why I will allow this. If the INDIE MA works as OUTCALL or a SINGLE CALL HOTEL ROOM INCAL VISIT they are technically not breaking any laws. This does become prostitution when it goes beyond just a massage to include oral sex or intercourse so offering this or doing this in a massage spa it makes the spa become a COMMON BAWDY HOUSE and that would be very much illegal and I don't think anyone would ever be foolish enough to admit this happened in a public forum such as this.... not to mention I would need to remove the comment as we do NOT discuss ILLEGAL activities on this site. So... Don't assume Claire does this in a spa. She did say "Some Independent MA's DO offer oral" meaning NO SPA AFFILIATE (I hope that is what she means as that is what I read into this) If a SPA ATTENDANT offers a BJ you are NO LONGER IN A MASSAGE SPA you are in a brothel (AKA COMMON BAWDY HOUSE) DISGUISED as a SPA and at risk of being arrested for being in a common bawdy house if the place gets raided while you are inside. Guys... if you want a BJ or something more don't go to a SPA or a CLUB looking for this and if you find a spa where the girl offers this you may want to leave and maybe even send off a email to the spa as they may not know she is offering this either and putting them at risk. I would also like to add that if a lady at a spa performs a bj she is also putting the customers visiting that spa at risk. Normally when LE investigate suspected Bawdy houses they do it over a long period. Anyone visiting the establishment during their investigation, in addition to those working there could be charged with being in a Bawdy house. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2Legit 250 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 I'm sorry but when I read those last two sentences it sounds like something from a prison or mafia movie. .... Even though movies don't really represent real life, perhaps a movie clip that expresses my thoughts to those who relate message conveying with movies, is the classic scene from Scent of a Woman: Not a prison or a mafia movie, yet it conveys a powerful message. Have a nice weekend. PS. Before anyone starts reading between lines that do not exist, under no circumstances what so ever am I saying that cerb is a ratship. Au contraire... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeRichards 177238 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 So... Don't assume Claire does this in a spa. She did say "Some Independent MA's DO offer oral" meaning NO SPA AFFILIATE (I hope that is what she means as that is what I read into this) I read it as it can happen with independent MA's...... AND ......she does not offer it but under certain circumstances it "can happen" That's what I saw and still do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest realnicehat Report post Posted November 30, 2013 Even though movies don't really represent real life, perhaps a movie clip that expresses my thoughts to those who relate message conveying with movies, is the classic scene from Scent of a Woman: Not a prison or a mafia movie, yet it conveys a powerful message. Have a nice weekend. PS. Before anyone starts reading between lines that do not exist, under no circumstances what so ever am I saying that cerb is a ratship. Au contraire... That is quite a passionate speech from a great movie but if you're going to try and prove your point with a video clip perhaps you should choose something that everyone hasn't seen. Yes, Pacino is standing proud and speaking loud, hooah, defending young Charlie and his right not to incriminate his friends but if you walked away from that movie thinking the moral of the story is "don't be a rat" then maybe you should sit down and watch it again. If you are on the road and see what you clearly believe is a drunk driver ahead would you report it in the hope of getting him/her off the road or would you be a "real man" and mind you own business? It's not your fault if someone gets hurt right? Worst case, you're wrong, and the drivers time is wasted while the police investigate but if they hadn't been driving like a jackass they wouldn't be in this situation. Best case, the driver is off the road no longer putting others at risk. It isn't much different with the spa attendant. If she's done nothing wrong then she has nothing to worry about. I'm sure no reputable Spa owner is going to fire a girl over one complaint. On the other hand, if she is refusing to follow the spa's rules and puts others at risk she should be removed. I would applaud anyone who speaks up with the intention of protecting others, especially when they know rules are being broken that could lead to very serious consequences. Sometimes there are more important things that worrying about how you are labelled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hector17 9215 Report post Posted November 30, 2013 It isn't much different with the spa attendant. If she's done nothing wrong then she has nothing to worry about. I'm sure no reputable Spa owner is going to fire a girl over one complaint. On the other hand, if she is refusing to follow the spa's rules and puts others at risk she should be removed. I would applaud anyone who speaks up with the intention of protecting others, especially when they know rules are being broken that could lead to very serious consequences. Sometimes there are more important things that worrying about how you are labelled. Your statement is noble..yes...but what kind of a knob would actually go to a spa, enjoy an oral finish, if the connection led to that...all this behind a closed and locked door, and then call the owner and report her? The comparison using a drunken driver that might kill or maim another is, I feel, not nearly on the same level. Sorry...I am just finding this thread a tempest in a tea pot, and while you may say I am not taking the LE implications seriously enough, I am finding it a way over the top with an imperious air where others will decide what's good or not good for me. If oral gets going, then I guess the client can always say no if they are on a higher moral horse than I. As well if it gets offerred as an extra for extra $, it can also be declined by those who disapprove. Otherwise, I subscribe to "Live and Let Live" in this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
