Playing Rules

[Accusync 120]

Hi All,

 

Well I'm wondering how many people follow there own rules on this hobby? When I started in this hobby I've made rules for myself and one of them is to never play in my own backyard (Ottawa). Well it's been like a few months now that have the itch to just break that rule. I'm just wondering how many people are paranoid of doing this hobby in there own backyard? What if at the end you know the SP or bump into someone you know.

 

Well for people that are interested, here is my list of rules.

 

- Never play in your own backyard

- Wrap it up

- No children around

- Get tested now and then

- Never take advantage

- Cash only

- Drug marks or evidence, polite decline

- Be prepare for anything!

[Peachka 4334]

I think you are being a bit paranoid. Most SP's are just as discreet as you are. But you made your rules for a reason, why break one? Time for a road trip! :boobeyes:

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Those sound like some good rules! I made a few for myself when I chose to enter the industry and I'm proud to say I've kept them all for over 2 years now:

 

-No weed/alcohol before, during, or after work (haven't had a sip of alcohol in 2 years)

-Always have another part-time job or be in school.

-Safety FIRST.

-Keep detailed records of income (I know to the penny how much I've made since day 1).

[kih 458]

I like to take the common sense approach. Dot the i's and cross the t's. Most of all have fun.

[GHT 798]

 

When I started in this hobby I've made rules for myself and one of them is to never play in my own backyard (Ottawa).

 

Personally I think its a lot easier to play in your own back yard. I don't worry about being seen at an SPs incall location half way across town. No one I know is going to be hanging out there.

Going to a dinner date in Ottawa, now thats a different story. Don't do that.

 

I think you should change your rule to "Don't get caught". Think about what it takes and implement an action plan.

 

GHT

[Guest gagagaga]

rules suck...i hate rules

[belladonna 279]

My Rules (added to those mentioned above, because most of them I abide to religiously):

 

 

• One should not do anything one does not want to do.
  
• One should not work when in a sour mood.
  
• When tired, one shall not regret cancelling an appointment
  
• When one has nothing to say, one does not need to babble nonsensically, it will only cause further embarrassment for both parties.
  
• One should never drink tequila before an appointment. Red wine as an aphrodisiac is OK and fun to share with one's partner. ;)
  
• One should not order 17$ chicken fingers at a hotel. :P
  

[Newton 714]

I'm new here, and still learning about the rules.

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[Seymour 3970]

It is good to have rules to keep you grounded. Everyone is different, and needs to be in tune with them in order to manage one's hobby persona with the everyday persona.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Interesting about not playing in your own backyard. I'm a very long-term resident here and its both never been a concern or proved to be one.

[BigBlueMachine 112]

Two other rules in addition to those already mentioned:

1. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is - stay clear of those sites known for these type of ads.

2. Stick to well reviewed ladies with well documented web sites - you won't go wrong.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

1 - My top rule is to be careful with the law. I always take outcalls (legal) and never incalls (illegal). Doable for me as I am single. This rule has been and will be costly over summer months when I usually have a visitor. Also have missed the chance to see some beautiful ladies who do incalls only in the past still never have broken or will break my strict rule. Better safe than sorry.

 

2 - When I contact the lady in writing (email or PM) I always add a sentence at the end that the specified donation will be in an open envelope and the donation will be for the lady's time only. I do not ask for services in return, but using the general term of GFE.

 

3 - Never accept those services which have documented cases of hiv transmission, like BBBJ (I broke this rule once only), or similar services.

 

4 - New rule. Never allow myself to get emotionally involved with an escort service provider.

[Loki318 1631]

In the many years I have been hobbying my first Rule was and has always been Not In My Backyard ! but then my back yard, (comunity) is so "small" in more way than one :)

In a comunity of less than 3000 ppl not only do you know every one but they know you and how much ass wipe you use and when you use it!!!

 

Now if I lived in Ottawa I am sure I would redefine my backyard ;)

 

I once booked into a hotel on a "trip outside the backyard" only to discover that there was a sundy school teacher conferance in the same hotel and 10 to 15 ppl form the "yard" were there also LOL had to a bit more carefull but still had fun

 

Loki318

[Capital Hunter 18263]

- Never play in your own backyard!

 

I am not sure I am clear about this rule. Does this mean not to have a lady over to your own place of residence (not taking outcalls) or does it mean not to take an SP in the city that you live in. Both options would be expensive if you are outcall only person, however, the second option needs both time (to travel to another city) and money for everyone, regardless of type of (in/out) call. I respect your rule regardless, and good on you to afford the time and cost of travelling (if latter), but I can not either.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

Just to be clear if you visit a lady in a hotel you are not breaking the law. If the lady is in the same room for more than 3 days it "could" be considered a common bawdy house, but it's kind of hard to prove.

 

Playing in your own backyard is certainly a concern for some that I can respect, but can be costly if you are only able to play out of town. As previously mentioned, quality providers are all about discretion if your concern is about crossing paths in a public place an awkward situation can be averted with a simple wink or nod.

 

SA, the OP is referring to hobbying in the same town he lives in.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Thank you for clarification on the 'same town' aspect of rule.

 

I am not into laws, and I may have misunderstood the comment, but does it mean that if I visit a lady in a hotel room as INCALL where the lady has not been there more than 3 days, then it is still legal??. I swear that I read somewhere on this board sometime ago that if I am a second (or more) visiting person in less that 24 hours in that hotel room, then that incall visit would be illegal, but I could be wrong.

 

The reason I am curious about the clarification is that every year during the summer months I have a visitor. So, every weekend I have to pay the full cost of a hotel room to take my visitor for just a few hours, so That I can have my guest outcall. If incalls are legal in a hotel room, then that could save me thousands of dollars in hotel cost every year:). May be Mod could kindly comment and clarify this for all once more, please.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

According to Section 210 of the Criminal Code, "Every one who keeps a common bawdy-house is guilty of an indictable offence", where Section 197 states: " 'common bawdy-house' means a place that is (a) kept or occupied, or (b) resorted to by one or more persons for the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency."

 

My interpretation of this is: technically, any incall is illegal, even if you're the first customer.

 

Obviously pretty hard to prove, though.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

My interpretation of this is: technically, any incall is illegal, even if you're the first customer.

 

Obviously pretty hard to prove, though.

 

Exactly, any incall is technically illegal, but so long as you are discrete about what you are doing a hotel, not a motel but a hotel is the best place for an incall . A hotel has guests coming and going and all the time and you can be certain that the front desk is not tracking in and out traffic with the exception of later in the evening when most go into lockdown mode.

 

SA you should consider relaxing your rule about incalls, use your head (the one on your shoulders) and intuition to determine which are the better incall providers to visit. As you've said you will end up saving money, consider the fact that in driver/transportation fees alone you are spending more than you need to. There are just as many concerns about privacy, cost and safety associated with outcalls. Each has there plus and minuses.

 

As with anything especialy with this hobby, there are risks involved if we can't take those risks we shouldn't be playing this game.

[whatsup 11893]

Just to be clear if you visit a lady in a hotel you are not breaking the law. If the lady is in the same room for more than 3 days it "could" be considered a common bawdy house, but it's kind of hard to prove.

 

Playing in your own backyard is certainly a concern for some that I can respect, but can be costly if you are only able to play out of town. As previously mentioned, quality providers are all about discretion if your concern is about crossing paths in a public place an awkward situation can be averted with a simple wink or nod.

 

SA, the OP is referring to hobbying in the same town he lives in.

 

According to Section 210 of the Criminal Code, "Every one who keeps a common bawdy-house is guilty of an indictable offence", where Section 197 states: " 'common bawdy-house' means a place that is (a) kept or occupied, or (b) resorted to by one or more persons for the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency."

 

My interpretation of this is: technically, any incall is illegal, even if you're the first customer.

 

Obviously pretty hard to prove, though.

 

Exactly, any incall is technically illegal, but so long as you are discrete about what you are doing a hotel, not a motel but a hotel is the best place for an incall . A hotel has guests coming and going and all the time and you can be certain that the front desk is not tracking in and out traffic with the exception of later in the evening when most go into lockdown mode.

 

SA you should consider relaxing your rule about incalls, use your head (the one on your shoulders) and intuition to determine which are the better incall providers to visit. As you've said you will end up saving money, consider the fact that in driver/transportation fees alone you are spending more than you need to. There are just as many concerns about privacy, cost and safety associated with outcalls. Each has there plus and minuses.

 

As with anything especialy with this hobby, there are risks involved if we can't take those risks we shouldn't be playing this game.

 

CK, I am not sure about the "If the lady is in the same room for more than 3 days it "could" be considered a common bawdy house"

 

The way I read the C.C. that WIT posted. It is not time determined and one could be arrested.

 

Additionally, I really do not think it would be that hard to prove if the LE wanted to pursue.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

After 3 days of operating out of a room for the purposes of business it's rather clear about what's going on. It's a vague number and really with the right iron clad evidence the police can easily make the bawdy house charge after one day even if they wanted to. I recall reading something about a trial where the police used the 3 day rule as part of their evidence, for some reason I'm thinking Winnipeg or Edmonton was were this took place. The fact is it's a number and really meaningless! :)

 

It's a grey area but 99.9% of the time an in call in a hotel is safe. Motels especially hourly ones, although i'm certain there aren't any advertised as such are just bad news all around.

 

I see a provider who is very below the radar, she does not advertise and is very very low volume who I visit in southwest end occasionaly at her home. I know she has other gentlemen callers. We often will go for lunch , go out bowling, yes bowling! coffee, movie etc then come back to her place, we may even have sex when we get back to her place I would not consider her house to be common bawdy house she's not taking several appointments a day, men arent' passing each other up the walkway to her front door, the gentlemen visitors are the same regular clientele. While I would not consider it a bawdy house, the police if they were to follow the letter of the law would.

[YoungStud 468]

"or the practice of acts of indecency" theoretically pretty much leaves it open to anything from your wife going topless in your hotel room with the curtains open to guys jerking each other off in a vacant apartment with the curtains closed, just to mention a couple among a very wide range of possibilities, as "indecent act" historically can cover quite a lot of conceptual territory in Canadian law.

 

That's because it's an archaic, badly written, overly general and unhelpfully vague section. Which could, with the current court challenges, be among the reasons it will be struck down.

 

In practical terms, unless there's a complaint or a disturbance that attracts LE to a flagrant and clear violation with regard to on-going prostitution on the premises, the chances of enforcement of this section are pretty much nil. Certainly, the prosecution record would bear that out. So, as always, discretion and common sense are your best guidelines.

[Cowboy kenny 50799]

"or the practice of acts of indecency" theoretically pretty much leaves it open to anything from your wife going topless in your hotel room with the curtains open to guys jerking each other off in a vacant apartment with the curtains closed, just to mention a couple among a very wide range of possibilities, as "indecent act" historically can cover quite a lot of conceptual territory in Canadian law.

 

LOL then lock me up! On my last encounter with Sin Cindy we did indecent things to each other that we both thoroughly enjoyed LMAO!

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Yes absolutely good advice on using the brain on the shoulders lol. Unfortunately sometimes my other brain grows bigger than the one on my shoulders as soon as I see the picture of a beautiful lady in an ad and the former dominates the latter:). Hey, wait a second, may be I should add a new rule to my list on this lol.

[mod 135639]

I was asked to comment so I will.

 

Any incall is illegal 1 day 3 days a year etc... doesn't matter but to prove it in court is not always easy so the police must be sure it is routinely used for that purpose and have it well documented of the charge does not stick. Much easier for them to charge commercial places such as stripclubs and massage spas.

 

I have NEVER heard of a incall being busted for common bawdy house in a hotel but I suspect it has probably happened. I would say it would probably be smart to no wear out ones welcome at a hotel.

 

Now again... single lady working out of a low traffic res with no drugs, no kids, no underage, keeping a low profile... the police are not going to be interested in her unless some neighbor starts making public complaints. If you go to a "commercial" in call (or) a brothel (Lots of women working out of one location) your increasing your risk a GREAT deal.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Thanks mod for the response and clarifications. Highly appreciated.

 

To the best of my understanding, Incalls in a hotel or private res appear to be of very low risk (especially when no drugs, underage or heavy traffic is involved), however, likely the only no risk type of call (from legal point of view) remains to be outcall.