Newton 714 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 On another thread there was some discussion between Mod and another member on the risk of condom failure. More specifically was it safer or riskier to change condoms within one round of action (one release)? The member had believed safer but Mod argued otherwise. He reasoned if the typical failure rate is 2% per condom use and you use one per 10mins in a one-hour session, the failure of at least one of six condoms would rise up to 12%. Along this reasoning, the rate would be 11% (it is 1 minus .98 to the power of 6). The conclusion seemed to be: more the riskier. But the math is not simple as that. To simplify things, I'll consider a session of two acts: CBJ and FS with two scenarios: one changes condom between acts and the other doesn't..The risk of each scenario then depends on how condoms failure.. If it is only 2 of 100 condoms are bad and the remaining 98 are perfectly good, then scenario one is riskier than scenario two. If, on the other hand, the 100 equally good and they may fail due to rigerous use, then scenario one is safer because a new one would be less likely to fail.. But what is the real situation? It seems the actual failures observed by various studies were due to misuse rather than manufacturing defect. Misuses include: a) passed expiration date, b) stored in a too hot or too cool location for too long, c) damaged while being opened from the packaged and being put on, and d) put on incorrectly (inside out). And if we add rigerous use as one more cause, let's label it e). . . It seems a, b and e affect all condoms, while c and d do some by accident. Therefore, how one assesses risk will likely depend on which causes of failure he sees as most significant.. Personally, I will change condoms if CBJ is very rigerous and long and teeth are used. And I'll not ask for a change if it's mild and short.. What do you think? Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antlerman 17064 Report post Posted January 12, 2010 dude...... 1. you have to much time on your hands to figure this out..... 2. you posted this on a mobile device.......that is nuts..... 3. you have to much time on your hands............... :? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 714 Report post Posted January 12, 2010 Ha ha ha... I'm on holidays and got this great toy in my hand. I thought why not work out my big brain the one on my shoulders, you know. All in all it has been a great vacation. Played hard by myself n with ladies. All good things will slow down though. Too bad;) Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted January 12, 2010 I think the act of putting a condom on is tedious enough the first time, so it doesn't come off unless it's full. Unless of course something doesn't feel right so then I'll put a new one on. Doesn't happen often. As far as the 2 out of 100 failure rate conjecture goes, it doesn't matter how many times you change the condom, it only matters which one you blow your load in. If it's one of the bad 2, there's a 100% chance it will fail, the other 98 will give you a 100% guarantee. Fuzzy math for a fuzzy problem. Makes me think of russian roulette. You put a bullet in a gun, spin the chamber, and pull the trigger. 1 in 6 chance you spray your brains all over the wall. If you spin again the next time, your chances are still 1 in 6, if you don't spin again it's 1 in 5. But if you have one of those guns that automatically go to the chamber with the bullet in it, you're looking at a 100% chance that your head explodes. In that case, better put a brain condom on so that you don't make a mess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick_falcon 911 Report post Posted January 13, 2010 I think the act of putting a condom on is tedious enough the first time... Reading your reply, I had a flash about the Seinfeld episode where George is opening a condom and is having difficulty. Susan tries to show him how but he insists that 'it must be opened like a bag of chips!' Then he was done before he could open the wrapper... And Antlerman, I am sure that you, it's not time that you got on your hands... :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*****tte Report post Posted January 13, 2010 it only matters which one you blow your load inI suppose you are thinking of the risk of STIs due to fluid exchange. However there are STIs that occur due to skin to skin contact which can still occur when condoms work properly and obviously when they break or slip off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antlerman 17064 Report post Posted January 13, 2010 And Antlerman, I am sure that you, it's not time that you got on your hands... :-) Bada bing!!! hehehehehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour 3970 Report post Posted January 14, 2010 Some amusing responses ... :lol: but seriously everyone is different and has different risk tolerances. I would venture to say that if one is pre-occupied with the possibility of a break, then well - one is likely not focused on the matters at hand. Not antler's hand....you know what I mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites