Guest A**aTo**h Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Generous and kind men express themselves differently, some with extravagant gifts, others with kind gestures, emotional notes, etc. all of which make a day of work worthwhile and will make me forget about some of the crap that arises in this business. Just knowing someone took the time to think of me, to show their appreciation for something I've said or done is touching and very special. The worst days usually consist of someone showing their poor character, ignorance or immaturity. Luckily those days are few and overshadowed by the good. I am glad to hear that the less admirable days are overshadowed by the good! Thank you for your response Cristy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star99 4852 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I had two bad experiences waiting. the first I got the text 5 minutes to the hour asking for 5 more minutes and then nothing for 45 minutes. After 2 txt messages and no response back I gave a final txt to say I was leaving and left and then got a frantic txt asking me to turn around. the second incident. I had set the time to meet a week in advance. Confirmed the day before and the morning off. Then got there 5 minutes before and asked to wait for 15 minutes, then got the txt could I wait another 15 minutes. then a txt saying to wait a half hour only to get there to find the very special SP I had planned at length to see and had I thought established a re-pore with was not there and I was offered some stranger. I politely declined and left. im pretty sure I know who your talking about. not going to say here. doesn't surprise me at all, because I know she STILL does it to most people. I also think that any escorts should keep in mind that from a hobbyist point of view and your point of view is time is important. for example, you may have someone else coming to see you shortly after seeing someone, so they shouldn't keep us waiting especially if we are on time or a few minutes early. some of us have other places to go, or can only escape for a certain amount of time. I totally understand, and im not disrespecting anyone here, but im sure some of you understand what im talking about. basically boils down to a 2 way street, we respect you for your time, respect us for ours as well. just my opinion, no harm intended :) 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I'd appreciate another companions advise/ answer to the remark I'm often given when in a conversation concerning this occupation. I've had many conversations with educated "straight"( by that I mean those not affiliated with the business) people, most often women, that become arguments. They become arguments because they insist their opinions are right, when going against the profession, and my opinion, that it is a decent profession, is wrong. They will insist that being a companion isn't acceptable, nor right, that it is degrading to women and one should want better for themselves. How would you respond? I know you were asking other ladies.. but I'm going to chip in anyway :) What I'd really want to know from these people is: *why* do they think it's unacceptable, or wrong, or degrading? And don't let them waffle or handwave or brush the question off: make them justify their point of view. If they think it's immoral, then ask why they should get to impose their morality on others. If they're concerned about STIs, ask how what you do is worse than having an affair or a drunken hook-up at closing time. If they think it harms society, ask how. If they're concerned about trafficking, ask if they're equally concerned about the construction, agriculture and domestic services industries (and if not, why not). My suspicion is that these attitudes are mostly rooted in either ignorance about what sex workers do, who they do it with, and how, or moral strictures which you can't really justify imposing on others, or just good old-fashioned hang-ups about sex. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I know you were asking other ladies.. but I'm going to chip in anyway :) What I'd really want to know from these people is: *why* do they think it's unacceptable, or wrong, or degrading? And don't let them waffle or handwave or brush the question off: make them justify their point of view. If they think it's immoral, then ask why they should get to impose their morality on others. If they're concerned about STIs, ask how what you do is worse than having an affair or a drunken hook-up at closing time. If they think it harms society, ask how. If they're concerned about trafficking, ask if they're equally concerned about the construction, agriculture and domestic services industries (and if not, why not). My suspicion is that these attitudes are mostly rooted in either ignorance about what sex workers do, who they do it with, and how, or moral strictures which you can't really justify imposing on others, or just good old-fashioned hang-ups about sex. Thank you! That is exactly how I never respond, sadly. When in an argument, as you may have noticed;) I tend to get defensive and lash out instead of responding intelligently and with a clear head, my emotions always get the better of me. Your response is brilliant, so spot on. I hope next time I'll be calm enough to respond so eloquently. I'm copying this:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theliquor (Lost but not fo 50595 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Also just remind them at the start of the conversation that you are expressing an opinion, which by definition is neither right or wrong, it is an opinion! Otherwise, just hit them on the nose!.....only kidding 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Na****a***mers (RETIRED) Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Nice post. I have a question on email etiquette. I would imagine most companions get an incredible amount of email it must be extremely daunting at times. Realizing a companion is only compensated for there time and company and not corresponding where does that leave email? What is appropriate? From a Client perspective, it is oh so easy to take a shine to you lovely ladies, and naturally we want to know more but not at the expense of irritating you. Myself, if I email, it is because I want to see you again and I want to know that it is a little bit reciprocated before booking again. Now putting on the companions shoes, I don't get paid to email. If I email someone not booking what do I get out of it? Yes, I need to respond for repeat business but so and so is trying to book now..... So again I ask what is appropriate/acceptable? I know it is a case by case thing but just as a rule of thumb? How much of a companions day is email? Do good clients email monthly? Quarterly? Do bad clients email weekly? Daily? I just find it a gray area... I can't answer for any ladies other than myself, so personally, my email is there to initiate contact, a chance for the gent to introduce himself and inquire about availability. This is stated on my Contact page and, I hope, keeps time wasters away. I prefer that my screening form is filled out if the gent is ready to book, it answers all questions I might have for a potential client, including any requests he might have. I am not the type to chit chat via email and much rather prefer face to face meetings as a lot can be misinterpreted online. Follow ups are always welcomed, it's nice to know that someone enjoyed our time so much that they think of me outside our time together. Additional Comments: I'd appreciate another companions advise/ answer to the remark I'm often given when in a conversation concerning this occupation. I've had many conversations with educated "straight"( by that I mean those not affiliated with the business) people, most often women, that become arguments. They become arguments because they insist their opinions are right, when going against the profession, and my opinion, that it is a decent profession, is wrong. They will insist that being a companion isn't acceptable, nor right, that it is degrading to women and one should want better for themselves. How would you respond? Turn it into a joke and don't discuss it with people who are not close to you (and who know about your business, love you and support you no matter what). Most human beings tend to be closed-minded and have a hard time seeing life from another point of view until they experience it themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olivia 192 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I would have to agree with Emma.. Very well spoken.. Shower and being clean is a must.. Just respect guys..and no shows is basically just plain disrespectful.. Why make an appointment if ur just not going to show.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star99 4852 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I would have to agree with Emma.. Very well spoken.. Shower and being clean is a must.. Just respect guys..and no shows is basically just plain disrespectful.. Why make an appointment if ur just not going to show.. people who do no shows probably do it on purpose, or they're not in the right frame of mind to do it. just my thoughts I haven't nor would I do a no show, unless an emergency came up and unable to cancel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamaGeek 3664 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Nice post. I have a question on email etiquette. I would imagine most companions get an incredible amount of email it must be extremely daunting at times. Realizing a companion is only compensated for there time and company and not corresponding where does that leave email? What is appropriate? From a Client perspective, it is oh so easy to take a shine to you lovely ladies, and naturally we want to know more but not at the expense of irritating you. Myself, if I email, it is because I want to see you again and I want to know that it is a little bit reciprocated before booking again. Now putting on the companions shoes, I don't get paid to email. If I email someone not booking what do I get out of it? Yes, I need to respond for repeat business but so and so is trying to book now..... So again I ask what is appropriate/acceptable? I know it is a case by case thing but just as a rule of thumb? How much of a companions day is email? Do good clients email monthly? Quarterly? Do bad clients email weekly? Daily? I just find it a gray area... I know this question was to companions but I am a talker and an emailer so I am chiming in with what I have found. You already obviously recognize that most companions don't have time (or perhaps the inclination) to engage in social exchanges with clients by email. I tend to send emails to companions I have met or that I am planning to meet. However, I am careful to note whether my email is simply social or if it is part of making arrangements. Also, I emphasize strongly that I do not require a response to a social email. If I get a response, that is wonderful. If I don't, I just enjoy writing. I sometimes get lovely responses and sometimes only get responses to arrangement emails. Of course, it can be awkward for people I have not yet met to be sure whether I am being honest that I will not be disappointed if they do not respond. However, it is the truth. In summary, I don't think it is fair to expect a companion to engage in social email exchanges with you. You can still write, but try to be clear that a response is not required. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 20, 2015 I can't answer for any ladies other than myself, so personally, my email is there to initiate contact, a chance for the gent to introduce himself and inquire about availability. This is stated on my Contact page and, I hope, keeps time wasters away. I prefer that my screening form is filled out if the gent is ready to book, it answers all questions I might have for a potential client, including any requests he might have. I am not the type to chit chat via email and much rather prefer face to face meetings as a lot can be misinterpreted online. Follow ups are always welcomed, it's nice to know that someone enjoyed our time so much that they think of me outside our time together. I completely agree with this! An escorts business style may be just as unique as the escort herself. We all have our own way of running our business, so that it can work for who we are as companions. We know what works for us and expect that will be understood. Reading ads, websites, etc, and respecting how each individual wants to engage, will go far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadiesFirst 848 Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks for the info everyone. I will try another question (almost at 5!) On gifts, women's attire specifically, could be one of the more complicated systems developed by mankind (sorry or womankind ;) ? should a gent take it upon himself to enter the size gauntlet? Chance it not fitting or not liking it? Or go straight for the gift card? Is the effort appreciated or just go with a card? I mean there is small medium, no problem. But 0 or 2. How can there be a zero wtf. What numbers are small? What numbers are medium? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest A**aTo**h Report post Posted January 21, 2015 I have a general question for all the ladies; when you are on the Community Chat here, is it to Drum up business Chat to pass time Catch up with clients Other? Thanks Ladies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah Star 2136 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 theres no right answer deny deny deny...or if stuck and put on the spot.: maybe out there somewhere a potential rapist or child molester is managing their urges better paying an sp to get their jollies off Additional Comments: more discreet ;) Additional Comments: 100 percent of the time I give preference to a regular client unless they are the odd undersirable one lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Thanks for the info everyone. I will try another question (almost at 5!)On gifts, women's attire specifically, could be one of the more complicated systems developed by mankind (sorry or womankind ;) ? should a gent take it upon himself to enter the size gauntlet? Chance it not fitting or not liking it? Or go straight for the gift card? Is the effort appreciated or just go with a card? I mean there is small medium, no problem. But 0 or 2. How can there be a zero wtf. What numbers are small? What numbers are medium? Any gift you choose for your friend is going to be more than appreciated, you took time to think about her, that's very special. Wrong size, wrong gift, regardless, just give a gift receipt with it. A gift card is also a great way to go, then you won't have the worry of wondering. Most of us are animal lovers, charity supporters so that is another way to go:) But as far as lingerie, clothing, if it is something you really want to give ask her size, mention that you'd like to pick a little something up for her, it'll still be a surprise and very much appreciated. The gift to you will be seeing her model it for you;) Thanks for the question:) Additional Comments: In the fashion world I think- 0-4 would be small 6-10 med 12 & up large. Sizing is difficult even for us as one 6 in one store may not be the same as one in another and so on. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 I have a general question for all the ladies; when you are on the Community Chat here, is it to Drum up business Chat to pass time Catch up with clients Other? Thanks Ladies! I'm guessing all of the above. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honey Man 12759 Report post Posted January 22, 2015 First let me say I do not think this situation should have ever occurred. And I am posting this months and months after it happened because I do understand the rules here and am not about to identify the person in question or even confirm if said person is a member or not. But I am curious from a ladies perspective as to how I could have handled it. Because this has bothered me for a long time because I feel my good nature was taken advantage of. I had arrainged to see a certain lady well in advance of the actual time. In making our arriagments I enquired about certain things and was told such things make our companionship time a lot more expensive. I agreed to that and showed up at the agreeded time with my gift in an envelope and placed said envelope on the table. After doing so I was then told opsi what I had hoped to happen was no longer going to happen for whatever the reason was. Now donation is on the table and so I left it there and proceeded to partake of my companionship time however I feel some advance notice of such a change should have been given. I did not want to adjust the donation amount and look cheap but on the other hand it was a hefty amount I donated extra for what was now no longer happening. I feel in fairness the opsie should have been mentioned at the very least when I confirmed I had arrived and certainly before I had placed the envelope on the table. And the extra was the very reason I choose this particular companion over say a different companion. And I know the rules here. However there needs to be some accountability from both sides. In talking to a good buddy of mine this exact same thing happened to him with the exact same lady. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted January 22, 2015 First let me say I do not think this situation should have ever occurred. And I am posting this months and months after it happened because I do understand the rules here and am not about to identify the person in question or even confirm if said person is a member or not. But I am curious from a ladies perspective as to how I could have handled it. Because this has bothered me for a long time because I feel my good nature was taken advantage of. I had arrainged to see a certain lady well in advance of the actual time. In making our arriagments I enquired about certain things and was told such things make our companionship time a lot more expensive. I agreed to that and showed up at the agreeded time with my gift in an envelope and placed said envelope on the table. After doing so I was then told opsi what I had hoped to happen was no longer going to happen for whatever the reason was. Now donation is on the table and so I left it there and proceeded to partake of my companionship time however I feel some advance notice of such a change should have been given. I did not want to adjust the donation amount and look cheap but on the other hand it was a hefty amount I donated extra for what was now no longer happening. I feel in fairness the opsie should have been mentioned at the very least when I confirmed I had arrived and certainly before I had placed the envelope on the table. And the extra was the very reason I choose this particular companion over say a different companion. And I know the rules here. However there needs to be some accountability from both sides. In talking to a good buddy of mine this exact same thing happened to him with the exact same lady. This is just my perspective- if this is happening with more than one person then it could possibly be a dishonest way of getting more $$ for the allotted time. I believe a responsible and respectful person would have returned the extra amount without you having to bring it up. I would also want to know the reason. An explanation should be given even if it's vague. There was an agreement, it was followed through on your end, the other end erred and it may not have been something in that persons control, either way, it is for them to make up the difference. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 22, 2015 I agree with Cristy, H.M. I'd also say contact the lady and tell her how you feel, if you haven't already. She may, or may not want to reqtify the situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50 Shades Raven 31380 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Any gift you choose for your friend is going to be more than appreciated, you took time to think about her, that's very special. Wrong size, wrong gift, regardless, just give a gift receipt with it. A gift card is also a great way to go, then you won't have the worry of wondering. Most of us are animal lovers, charity supporters so that is another way to go:) But as far as lingerie, clothing, if it is something you really want to give ask her size, mention that you'd like to pick a little something up for her, it'll still be a surprise and very much appreciated. The gift to you will be seeing her model it for you;) Thanks for the question:) Additional Comments: In the fashion world I think- 0-4 would be small 6-10 med 12 & up large. Sizing is difficult even for us as one 6 in one store may not be the same as one in another and so on. I agree with Cristy here. Lingerie from different manufacturers have a size equivalent that makes zero sense. For example, I am a perfect size 36D at La Senza, a perfect size 36C at La Perla, Christian Dior I am a perfect size 6. I wear a size 5-8 in clothing, because the manufacturers do not use the same sizing charts, go figure. For someone who wears a size 6 in clothing, why on earth do I have to purchase corsets in a size 2XL (equivalent to a size 24 in north American standards)? A gift card from the store of your choice is a wonderful idea, the lady can then choose an appropriate size for herself. But on the other hand, I wouldn't mind at all if someone were to ask me what size I wore should they be thinking of purchasing me something like this. I would simply inquire as to where they planned on purchasing, this way I can give an accurate size according to store :-) Additional Comments: First let me say I do not think this situation should have ever occurred. And I am posting this months and months after it happened because I do understand the rules here and am not about to identify the person in question or even confirm if said person is a member or not. But I am curious from a ladies perspective as to how I could have handled it. Because this has bothered me for a long time because I feel my good nature was taken advantage of. I had arrainged to see a certain lady well in advance of the actual time. In making our arriagments I enquired about certain things and was told such things make our companionship time a lot more expensive. I agreed to that and showed up at the agreeded time with my gift in an envelope and placed said envelope on the table. After doing so I was then told opsi what I had hoped to happen was no longer going to happen for whatever the reason was. Now donation is on the table and so I left it there and proceeded to partake of my companionship time however I feel some advance notice of such a change should have been given. I did not want to adjust the donation amount and look cheap but on the other hand it was a hefty amount I donated extra for what was now no longer happening. I feel in fairness the opsie should have been mentioned at the very least when I confirmed I had arrived and certainly before I had placed the envelope on the table. And the extra was the very reason I choose this particular companion over say a different companion. And I know the rules here. However there needs to be some accountability from both sides. In talking to a good buddy of mine this exact same thing happened to him with the exact same lady. If I were offering something particular, was booked, you appeared and now I could not offer that particular 'item of choice costing extra', I would be letting you know so that your donation for time could be readjusted by you. The fact that this lady has done this to two people that know each other, therefore a reliable source, it looks like a form of 'bait and switch'. Taking for a service that is not available without readjusting the fee. Wrong, in my eyes! I offer different things at different times. If I find that I cannot provide something that has been requested by you at the time of you meeting with me, then I am going to tell you that with as much advance notice as possible, so that you can readjust your donation before your visit. This is where communication is key in this world. I have no problem in letting a gentleman know I cannot provide a certain 'item' should that be the case. It is his choice then to re-schedule, cancel, or have a readjustment in donation. A lady that does this consistently, may not have 'offered' that particular 'item' at all, but rather just a ploy to get a larger donation, figuring your there now anyway, so you will go ahead. There is nothing wrong (I see anyway) in asking for a reduction in donation if a particular item is not available for you which you are booked for. From my perspective, it looks as though you, and your 'buddy' were taken advantage of. Not a good way for a lady to earn a good reputation on this board. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple HHH 12345 Report post Posted March 16, 2015 A question more for touring Ladies. Let's say you had a successful tour where ever you went in Canada in 2014 and you make your plans to repeat the same travel plans in 2015. If someone who enjoyed your visit in 2014 sees your Ad that your coming back to his area and he knows he is not in a position to see you on this visit do you like a little email from him stating that plus thanking you for returning with wishing you a successful tour or is silence enough to know he is not visiting for one reason or another. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 19, 2015 A question more for touring Ladies. Let's say you had a successful tour where ever you went in Canada in 2014 and you make your plans to repeat the same travel plans in 2015. If someone who enjoyed your visit in 2014 sees your Ad that your coming back to his area and he knows he is not in a position to see you on this visit do you like a little email from him stating that plus thanking you for returning with wishing you a successful tour or is silence enough to know he is not visiting for one reason or another. I would appreciate a note saying your sorry you can't see me this time but look forward to my next visit. It shows your still interested and enjoyed our time together in the past. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bianca Jaguar 39183 Report post Posted March 19, 2015 A question more for touring Ladies. Let's say you had a successful tour where ever you went in Canada in 2014 and you make your plans to repeat the same travel plans in 2015. If someone who enjoyed your visit in 2014 sees your Ad that your coming back to his area and he knows he is not in a position to see you on this visit do you like a little email from him stating that plus thanking you for returning with wishing you a successful tour or is silence enough to know he is not visiting for one reason or another. Good question Magician.. Personally I prefer silence but that's just me :) 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted March 20, 2015 I am of both minds here I do appreciate a little note saying it would be nice to get together again, provided its sincere. My sexy magician I am not referring to you at all. Then there is Bianca's viewpoint. We are temporary girlfriends. We do not expect you to feel compelled to visit us ever time we come into your city. That is our redeeming quality, we are here if you would like to see us but not like a traditional GF, all we ask is punctuality and a very nice time while we are together.! That's the best arrangement ever. :):) 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest D***el B***e Report post Posted March 20, 2015 I have a question for the ladies ... If you have an ultra regular client, I mean someone you've seen regularly, say once every ten days, for a few years and have enjoyed your time with him tremendously, and for whatever reasons, he decides to move on and somehow break the relationship, what is the best way you would like to find out? Of course at that point and after such a length of time it's become more than a business relationship, so what's your angle on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted March 20, 2015 If you have a long term relationship with a lady and you want to discontinue seeing her its polite to tell her why . Recently I has a 6 year relationship with a gent and it was always a long visit with dinner drinks etc. He decided that he wanted to give him and his wife a chance and explained this to me. Although I missed him I was very happy for his decision and I wished him well . I never interfered for one moment. I recently had word he has given up and would like to carry on where we left off . That is where your professional companion comes in . You can't help feel connection with a friendship that is on going for this long but you must be willing to let go; My point is a good SP acts accordingly to their gentlemen. You chose us for our lack of drama and that is the way it should be... 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites