Scammed by SP's?

[Andee 220524]

I have been seeing a large number of dancers and many of them whom I know for a long time and they trust me to come over by themselves (I am outcalls only) for private dancing (to make extra money outside the dried up SCs, I guess).

 

Of all the ones whom I have seen over several years, there was one who called me one Thursday night (very late as I was sleeping) that she needs $300 immediately and like to come over and see me (private dance for me). I had already booked my Saturday with another dancer so I had to turn down the offer. But she insisted that she needs the money to buy medicine for her sick child and since she works undertable (as a dancer officially she had no job) she does not have insurance. So, we agreed that I pay her the $300 as a loan for this week and we would go to Barbs and she would return the money to me exactly a week later at a specific time (I did not want her over to my place again as dancer after the very late night and very persistence call as I smelled trouble). So, I dropped by Barbs and pass her the envelope with cash and she was supposed to come back and pay back the loan in full (she even suggested an added interest of $50 which I rejected). Needless to say that I went to Barbs a week later and waited for hours but she never showed up!!!. I called her only once but the phone rang for long and she never picked up (she must have had call display lol) and she never called me back and I never saw her in any SC that I went to either. I forgot about the $300 and considered that a money given to charity lol. In the long run she lost a lot more than what she gained (I would have had her at least a few times like others at $300 donation each time) but that never happened. In all many cases that I had dated private dancers, they have been all fun and joy with a few exceptions and this was an exception (another case too that I was almost stalked for days but that is another unrelated story lol)

 

 

I wonder what she would have said if you asked to accompany her to the pharmacy and pay for it. I would bet she was buying drugs all right...for herself!

 

Sorry that happened to you, but it sounds to me like you already knew because like you said, you "smelled trouble".

 

I think we've all done at one time or another...

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I wonder what she would have said if you asked to accompany her to the pharmacy and pay for it. I would bet she was buying drugs all right...for herself!

 

Sorry that happened to you, but it sounds to me like you already knew because like you said, you "smelled trouble".

 

I think we've all done at one time or another...

 

Thanks Angela.

 

Yes I did smell trouble but the fact was that I was not sure and the thought of even slim chance that she may have been telling the truth and I might have denied a child (a two year old cute girl) from needed medicine would have hunted me for a long time. Going with her to the pharmacy did not cross my mind likely because I did not want to get involve in her personal life.

 

The $300 did not really affect me that much. This is the amount I spend each weekend on entertainment (private dancers, escorts) every weekend and sometimes even more. I considered that as given to charity or price to pay to buy restful mind for myself, otherwise I would have been wondering for ever, what if she was really telling the truth.

[hunknhot 1067]

Definately been burned by bad math in the CRs but I would not say it's part the industry, it's life in general. There will always be bad people. It's the first thing they teach us when we are little isn't it? Just need to learn to adapt on how to identify them as con artists are a special breed. Even though people are most vocal when they get burned, in relative terms, I suspect these people are very few compared to the total.

Sorry to hear all who have been taken at some level by MAs, SPs etc.. They are definatley not representative of the whole. Just live and learn.. I know I have.

 

We could start a new thread about my bankers!

[Andee 220524]

Thanks Angela.

 

Yes I did smell trouble but the fact was that I was not sure and the thought of even slim chance that she may have been telling the truth and I might have denied a child (a two year old cute girl) from needed medicine would have hunted me for a long time. Going with her to the pharmacy did not cross my mind likely because I did not want to get involve in her personal life.

 

The $300 did not really affect me that much. This is the amount I spend each weekend on entertainment (private dancers, escorts) every weekend and sometimes even more. I considered that as given to charity or price to pay to buy restful mind for myself, otherwise I would have been wondering for ever, what if she was really telling the truth.

 

A wise person once reminded that money is a renewable resource - we can always get more of it, but trust isn't. Once lost, difficult to regain.

[lffun 100]

Hate to break it to you Goose2ca but I suspect these "ladies" sensed something in your character that proved the famous PT Barnum quote:

?There's a sucker born every minute?

[Capital Hunter 18263]

A wise person once reminded that money is a renewable resource - we can always get more of it, but trust isn't. Once lost, difficult to regain.

 

To be honest I am still not sure whether what she was saying was a lie (that her 2 year old daughter being sick) or the truth. All I know is that she promised to return the loan a week later at Barbs but she never showed up (but may be she spent it all on her child and did not have any to pay me back). So, at best it was a broken promise and at worse a lie (about the sick daughter). I never saw her again to find out.

 

One sure thing, she needed money bad, may be not for a sick child but another urgent matter (she was not making much as dancer) and I knew her for two years (soon after her baby was born and she started dancing as she was dumped by her BF who was mad at her pregnancy!!!!!, like it was all her doing and the idiot guy had nothing to do with it!!!) she was not into drugs or anything.

 

If I go back two years I would still do the exact same thing (would loan her the money knowing for sure that she would not pay it back), as even the slim chance that she may be telling the truth is not worth the risk. I bought myself a clear conscious worth much more than $300. I also care about the well being of the ladies that I see. To me they are people with hearts and minds not a piece of meat as I am sure same is true with overwhelming majority of others.

 

I learned my lesson about 12 years ago lol. I was (graduate research associate) student in Montreal so I was real short of money then. On my way to school a young couple with a baby stopped me and asked me for donation to buy food for their baby. I walked away saying that sorry I don't have money (which I did have in my wallet). Quite clearly they were recent immigrants with eastern European face and accent and in need of money. The picture is still very clear in my mind even 12 years later. I will never forget the sleeping baby. I promised never again. So, yes I knew most likely the dancer was not telling the truth but 12 years ago I learned my lesson and I said to myself, NEVER Again. It is better to lose a bit of money than a clear conscious lol.

 

As I said the $300 loss did not play a significant role in my life then. I just needed to cut one strip bar session to make up for that lol. Therefore only a selfish or a mean person with no conscious will call me a fool because I chose to be parted with my money rather than with my clear conscious.

[buggernot 588]

There's a billion sob stories out there but a fool and his money are soon parted.

[Seymour 3970]

Suffice to say this thread raises awareness around this 'issue'. If you've been burned, I guess the best lesson is learn from one's mistakes. That said, if you have an emotional connection with someone (which does happen), it makes it that much more difficult to turn one's back on someone in a legitimate or innovative time of need. So is there a right or wrong way to deal with this type of situation? I believe the answer is up to the individual involved.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Very true Seymour. I couldn't say it any better myself. You have a proven talent for putting what you (and most people) think into words. Too bad I have to spread my reputation points before giving you one well deserved rep point for above very true comments.

 

And also thanks Jazzitup, for your rep point to my earlier post above and your comment in that rep point (and thanks also to all who PMed me with their supporting comments). It takes one to know one my friend. You must be a stand up gent yourself.

[Seymour 3970]

Thanks for the compliment S_A. Don't sweat the rep points. Evident from some of the posts in this thread and some of the comments from fellow members handing out rep points (thanks), it is good to know there are like minded individuals out there.

[Guest s******ecan****]

Its always a challenge when presented with a request for help by someone you care about who is in need. For me I always consider this sort of situation carefully, I ask myself what is the real need here. Just because the person is asking for a loan, doesen't mean money is the answer. Perhaps there are other solutions they have not considered.

 

If in the end money is involved I never loan, I just give it. If the person wants to repay later fine. I'm not interested in interest or getting the money back. Since I'm not loaning, I'm never tempted to put more at stake than I can afford to lose, since in my mind its already gone.

 

This way I am also never taken advantage of because what is offered by me is freely given.

 

Just my thoughts.