Question to the Regulars/SPs.

[RuinedGeneration 243]

Ill get straight to the point, is there some kind of age requirement that SP's uphold?

 

I've been turned down by a bunch of the well known ones (who post here at least) due to my age (21 years old). Which is unfortunate because they are the only Ladies where you know what you are getting.

 

I won't name names.

 

Im mature and am capable of paying for the service.

 

Just curious as to why, you can private message me.

 

Thanks.

[Malika Fantasy 144625]

Because, sadly, you are in age bracket, where a fair amount of people ask for discounts. Using the excuse that "I'm a hot stud, you should give me a discount", "I am young and it won't be as gross as a 50 years old balding man"

 

I know it may sound cliche, but sadly it is often more than norm than not

[Guest S****r]

Your age category can also tend to be no-shows. Many are all bravado on the phone, but then often chicken out when the time comes, and fail to follow through. Just yesterday I told a 21 year old I would see him this weekend if he paid a deposit, but with the high risk of no-shows in his age group, I couldn't hold a spot for him potentially giving up a spot to a gentleman who would be sure to show up.

 

I also had a 22 year old become infatuated with me, telling me he was in love with me and sending me streams of text messages afterwards, so that I finally had to block him.

 

Sad, but true.

 

Maybe if you offer to pay in advance, you will have more success booking.

 

Good luck.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

My advice would be to strike up a conversation with someone you are interested in. Connect via the online world and let her get to know you before trying to book a date. If you can create a good rapport, perhaps she will reconsider and arrange a meeting.

 

What Malika said is sad but true. Prove that you aren't a 20 something jerk and maybe you will reap the rewards :)

[roamingguy 300292]

In this lifestyle, speaking in generalities of course, with age comes with maturity. Where as a young man may think he's god's gift, with age comes a maturity, the realization that a gentleman knows he isn't god's gift, but he knows and appreciates that he is going to see one of god's gift, the Goddess he is sharing a hour or a few with. And he appreciates the time the lady has set aside to see him. He does not view her time as an entitlement for him.

As has been suggested, contact a lady, build a rapport. When the time is right ask if she will see you. Offer to pay a deposit in advance (there are many well recommended ladies here on CERB in case you are worried about sending money in advance) plus volunteer verification information

(your real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email, an unblocked contact phone number) a reference if you have one. She may need other information if you don't have a reference. And btw the ladies can be trusted with this information

Be open, forthcoming, show you are more mature than your age, and you may get an companion agreeing to see you despite your youth. And if she declines your request, say thank you and move on. Even if you give her verification information, doesn't mean she owes you an encounter. Be mature at all times, even if you are declined

A rambling from a fifty something bald man

 

RG

[fortunateone 156618]

Yesterday I had a new client who asked me how old did i think he was (darkened room, so i wasn't going by wrinkles), I said early 30s. Turns out he was 25. I made an assumption of age based on his behaviour, in contacting me, in booking, in the fact he showed up, didn't asked rude questions, didn't ask for a discount, and also didn't sound like a young punk thug.

 

:)

 

Some sps just have an age 25 cut off, they don't want to hear from you in the first place, and they won't see you even if you come off like someone in their early 30s ;) that is their own comfort zone.

 

You can't get past the ones with posted age limits, but you can always approach any other sps in a way that will get past their unwritten kneejerk reaction when they hear an age. maybe don't mention the age unless asked, or say "i'm in my early 20s, is that OK?" because that shows that you understand that it can be an issue for sps, and you want to show her the respect to give her a chance to say no before you both invest more time into it all lol

 

When someone asks me if it is 'OK" it predisposes me more favourably towards them.

[kewlfreddy 320]

Just be professional and mature. I am young as well and have seen sps. Don't act like those bravado men and remember to treat everyone with respect just like the way you want to be treated yourself.

 

If they don't want to see you, then as the other member said say thanks and move on.

[CristyCurves 169032]

For some ladies, 21 is just to young. I personally have met with gentlemen under 30, I get requests from them daily but my preference and comfort zone is over 30. I find some of the younger gents won't take no for an answer. Just recently I've had a 19 yr old contacting me and when I explain myself he simply calls from another number and tries again. . I'm sure it's frustrating for you but for a good encounter and experience to occur both parties involved have to be willing and wanting it to happen. I do hope you find your perfect girl:)

[Miss S. Lane 67128]

I have broken my over 30 rule on more than one occasion. For me, it has more to do with their maturity, level of respect, etc.

 

I have turned down a lot of younger ones due to a lack of the above, and an inherent assumption that they can show up, skip the pleasantries and "get their monies worth". Not gonna happen. I'm sure some offer that and that's fine, but NOT me :)

 

Email someone you're interested in seeing. If you are able to demonstrate a level of respect and maturity, I believe there are SPs who would gladly see you (myself included).

 

Good luck!!

[RuinedGeneration 243]

I understand these concerns but please don't Generalize, thats very disrespectful as well.

 

 

Not every young person is a scamming headstrong person. I myself own my own small IT Business right now so that should show how I can handle myself.

 

Thanks for all the replies however.

[Liv Waters 52361]

Your asked for feedback, and started a thread which is going to elicit honest discussion and comments about the themes many of us providing sexual services experience with men seeking our services. Those themes inevitably result in generalizations to achieve a very particular task, which in this case was to unpack the various reasons why some SPs choose not to see men under a certain age. I don't see any disrespect happening here. And, if you truly feel that you exude respect and maturity, consider taking the advice graciously given here about how to tactfully approach service providers in seeking their company.

 

Good luck!

 

Anna

[Brad 49548]

I understand these concerns but please don't Generalize, thats very disrespectful as well.

 

 

Not every young person is a scamming headstrong person. I myself own my own small IT Business right now so that should show how I can handle myself.

 

Thanks for all the replies however.

 

While--generally--it is not a good idea to generalize, and though I can see how it would be frustrating, try to see it from the lady's perspective and it might not seem so personal.

 

I don't think any lady here would say that every young person is immature. And age doesn't always bring wisdom, and no doubt there are older fellows who cause just as much aggravation.

 

But if a lady finds that a given demographic is more inclined to no-show, haggle, or just not make for as good an overall experience, then at the end of the day it's her call to decide just to make a rule not to see anyone of a certain age. Yes, this probably means also missing out on some good potential clients, but that's not disrespect, it's simply her right.

 

Most of us probably don't realize the degree of presumption and time-wasters a lady has to deal with on a regular basis, so we can't begrudge anything that makes them feel more comfortable or makes their day-to-day a bit easier.

 

Show that you don't take it personally, be patient, and follow the excellent advice already given to you, and I've no doubt you'll have a chance to prove yourself and find a lady you can have a great experience with.

[roamingguy 300292]

I understand these concerns but please don't Generalize, thats very disrespectful as well.

 

 

Not every young person is a scamming headstrong person. I myself own my own small IT Business right now so that should show how I can handle myself.

 

Thanks for all the replies however.

 

You telling us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner only shows us that you can tell us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner.

Which has nothing to do with seeing a lady. BTW encounters aren't about handling yourself

Encounters are about a gentleman meeting a lady for a mutually beneficial time together

Yes, in a perfect world generalizations aren't good, but ladies make their profession based on their experience dealing with people. And their experience shows them this age demographic isn't good for their business. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about the ladies do what is right for them So you have to show the lady you are a mature gentlemen, a man the lady would like to have as a client if you want to see her

A rambling

 

RG

[daddio 2704]

Good advice. RG. As an aside, from the number of posts where you have stated (mistakenly) that you are rambling, maybe you need to change your handle from RG to RM. Rambling Man! lol

[Dorinda Bloom 44036]

Something I thought of.... Often times (but not all), younger men have a great deal of stamina and can go like the energizer bunny! Don't get me wrong, it's a great deal of FUN, however, this can really wear a working lady out. Perhaps some of the SP's you've contacted are concerned about this. Just my two cents.

[Katherine of Halifax 113932]

I think a lot of ladies have a general idea of the age group they are comfortable seeing. I generally see no one under 30 and of course there are always expectations.

 

I have a client in Sydney now a regular and he really rocks. His initial letter was that of a very mature man. Name, rank and serial number. No reference as he was new but all work information easily verified. His age 22.

 

Aside from the fact he looks very young to me, blindfold me and he could be 40 or 50. He always books way ahead , is always on time and treats me like a lady, no a queen. Also very understanding to my schedule and will move around if I ask him .

 

He is such a great client I would write him a recco if possible.

[EmilyRushton 253372]

I agree with what the other ladies have already posted. Please understand that how you have a preference on whom you would like to visit with - WE (companions) have a preference on who we would like to spend time with.

 

For me, I prefer 40+ I find I have a much better connection visiting with company slightly older than myself. I have personally found that the majority of younger men don't have a clue what they want and are more into a date that Im not into offering. As well I find I don't have much in common with a younger man and it leaves little to talk about, which leads to a not so much fun date. Don't get me wrong there are people I have spent time with that have been younger than that - however they have had impeccable references from ladies I know and that was the deciding factor on whether I visited with them. Keep in mind this is my opinion and no one else's.

 

There are ladies who have no issue with age of whom they may visit with and maybe that is the route you need to go. Once you can gain some credibility from a lady who can vouch for you(with you being a gentleman and a wonderful client), that may help with getting an encounter with another lady you want to see. (please note it may not as some ladies are firm on their age requirements)

 

Its nothing against you personally, its just what works for both parties involved. I mean do you really want to spend time with a lady who does not want to visit with you as you don't meet her requirements? That would not be a fun date.

[Andee 220524]

Something I thought of.... Often times (but not all), younger men have a great deal of stamina and can go like the energizer bunny! Don't get me wrong, it's a great deal of FUN, however, this can really wear a working lady out. Perhaps some of the SP's you've contacted are concerned about this. Just my two cents.

 

Good point, Lovey.

 

I am 53 years old and I feel weird about seeing someone my nephew's age, but if he's respectful and courteous and follows my requirements, I may consider seeing him.

 

But generally speaking, from my experience (FOR ME) there is always some kind of hassle with guys under 25. It's just the way it is. Remember I was 25 in 1985 back when the dinosaurs still ruled the earth so even simple communication can go awry (Yo escort lady, I wanna git wit u).

 

If you present yourself in a mature way and don't expect to have jack rabbit sex for 29 or 59 minutes straight, you might be surprised that ladies might make an exception.

 

I personally am not offended if someone asks. But some ladies who state explicitly they do not see men under a certain age may not respond favourably to you or just not at all.

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

All of us providers have our preferences of who we wish to provide services to.

The fact that you are 21, but wish to state that to a provider, is advantageous on your part.

Some providers have their reasons for only wanting to see clients above a certain age.

 

Speaking strictly for myself, as long as a client is over the age of 19, I see no problem, as long as they are respectful.

I've met clients who consider themselves mature in age only to be immature when they contact me or meet with me, and other clients that are quite young, but respectful and mature.

It's not age to me that matters, it's attitude.

 

In speaking for others, just be respectful of their wishes that perhaps you are a little too young for their liking.

It's not being disrespectful to you, it's just their preference, just as you have a preference on the type of provider you wish to spend time with.

 

Depending on where you are located, take a look through the ads in your local area, and contact providers after taking a look at their websites. Websites are a goldmine of information, and you may find a providers preferences there.

Ask, and you will find a provider that doesn't mind the fact that you are quite young, and as long as you contact them they way they wish you to, things will work out just fine :)

 

happy hunting

[VictoriaJolie 64127]

How did you contact the ladies?would you give us an example of pm or email sent?

I am someone that has no problem with ANY ages however it depend how you contact me waiving dollars like carrot to a donkey is a huge turn off for me

[Ice4fun 78407]

Here I was thinking that all the sexy CERB ladies were accepting my booking requests because of my dazzling wit, charm and personality to say nothing of my rugged handsome "Buddha like" looks but it turns out it's just because I am OLD..... lol.... sorry just could not help myself

 

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Hmm, I actually wonder how an age discrimination suit of that sort would go. If prostitution does end up fully legalized and regulated that will actually become a valid legal issue.

 

Let's not confuse things. Legal or not - we will retain the right to see who We choose.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

If and when we are federally regulated - this is not discrimination. Do I have to see a women because it's considered discrimination based on her sex or orientation? No of course not.

 

Read up on the laws before you start a whole new discussion.

 

We are not regulated so therefore those laws don't apply here.

[roamingguy 300292]

Yes, but as in all licensed businesses under Canadian Law stating age as the sole reason to refuse service (or employment) would count as a human rights violation and then be subject to potential lawsuit. You would be able to say the reasons that the person doesn't appear to be a good 'fit' or other things about his specific behaviors (much as businesses today get around the discrimination laws) but flat out stating an age limit could very well result in a successful lawsuit against you, or at least one that would make it to court, just as it has for other licensed and regulated businesses in the past. I don't understand where there would be any confusion in this regard.

 

Just some food for thought; of course nobody is going to actually force you to see anybody. They don't flat out force other businesses to hire people either; of course it will never work. But they do sometimes impose fines or award damages. That's just the reality of licensed business regulations.

 

This is not a business like any other. A woman, yes, even an SP is free to choose who she wants to be intimate with. Denial of sexual services because of age is not a Human Rights violation. Forcing a woman to see someone she doesn't wish to see would be tantamount to sexual assault

And anyone who would even consider doing such a thing IMO has no respect for women. SP or not, a lady is free to choose who she wants to be intimate with

 

RG

[roamingguy 300292]

Nobody can make you or stop you from doing anything, even flat out discriminating. Being sued over something does not equal being forced to do it. As for having the hypothetical suit be successful, even then probably not, but again it will depend on the nature of the hypothetical regulations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, the hypothetical regulations will decide how similar legally the business is to other licensed businesses. Denial of services is denial of services, the current laws have no distinction between types of services. As well, I have said multiple times that it isn't possible to force anybody to do anything, but it is possible for a suit to see the inside of a court in order to attempt to get monetary damages, not forced service. This is basic business law.

 

You are confusing the current laws regarding overarching sexual activity (not service, as there are currently no laws at all about that) and current lack of business law (as prostitution is not currently regulated) as what I was talking about, but again if sex work does become legalized and regulated, sex workers will then be licensed and subject to some sort of business regulations, which will likely include something about discrimination as other businesses do. There will be some sort of clarification on the legal status of sexual services compared to generic sexual activity as well as compared to other business services. What that would be, I can't say nor have I speculated on. All I was saying was that attempted lawsuits in general will become possible.

 

I apologize for the confusion; I will attempt to be more clear with my language in the future. At any rate I feel like this thread is getting hijacked from its original topic so I will not be posting in it any more.

 

Just so you know, in Canada, right now, prostitution (sex work) is already legal. And some cities, I believe out in western Canada requires escorts to be licensed

With the upcoming Bill C36 to become law however it will be illegal to purchase sexual services, so I hardly think any man would go to court, claiming he was discriminated by virtue of age from purchasing a service which the law says is illegal to purchase. Not to mention common sense rule number one, no guy would go to court and publically out himself as someone who sees escorts. One rule of this lifestyle discretion all the way around

 

RG