a bit disappointed with PK

[carlosfromcanada 100]

Just saw Kaitlyn... nothing bad to say about her. Very attractive, sweet girl and was ready to go! Unfortunately, she arrived over an hour later than promised. And I had booked her earlier in the evening. I know there are delays but you have to be professional about these things. I called once and was told that she was on route and should be there any minute. Then I called 30 mins later and no answer. Tried a couple of more times with no luck. Then finally sent a text message saying that don't bother sending her, it's too late. She showed up 2 mins after sending that text. I should have sent her back as I was exhausted, but that's not my style and it wasn't her fault. She was super nice about it but it wasn't the experience I was looking for. I don't post on here often but my posts are always positive, I think. These things are just a matter of principle for me so I thought I'd share it with the group.

 

Cheers,

-Carlos

[dreamer8 510]

Carlos,

 

I am sorry you had a late appt, It's never happened to me because I "eat out" instead of "order in" ;). I wouldn't blame PK, sometimes shit just happens (beyond their control) and things are late that's the nature of any business especially one as busy as they are. If you weren't happy you should have made it known there and then (that's what I would have done). Better luck next time.

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

Yea we apologize for being late. Unfortunately we were booked solid last night and our drivers were tied up. Our lines were ringing off the hook so we probably missed your call a few times. We do appreciate the comment and If you decide to use again we would be more than happy to compensate you in some way.

thank you for your business.

jess

[carlosfromcanada 100]

Jess,

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'm in town for another day and a half and travel here often so I might take you up on that offer!

Take care,

-Carlos

[Guest abulreesh]

Wow talk about great customer service ... i've never seen something like that before ... jessica you're agency rocks ... keep it up.

[4bbrlcarb 101]

i've used PK twice and both times i've found the places the girls are in our pretty dumpy....food lying around, clothes on the floor.......etc........not my kind of spot

[mod 135639]

Sounds like the agency should suggest some house cleaning habits as it appears to be a popular issue. Jessika from PK reads the threads here so maybe a suggestion for her to think about as a recommendation (or policy) to the ladies as this would obviously increase return clients!

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

Just so you know, we do make suggestions to the girls and give them the feedback of their clients. i'm not about to run around after them to make sure their rooms/houses are clean, sorry. These girls can decide for themselves what they want to do. Obviously a nice clean, place, with no towels and food lying around is more appealing but there is really nothing i can do. A complaint of a messy place made weeks, months down the line is really uneffective.

thanks for your comments.

[mod 135639]

Let's find out how important this is to the members of the Ottawa section of cerb here... I created a thread with a quick poll. Please visit and post your comments (or at least place a vote) to show the ladies how important this really is.

 

I would personally be disgusted if I walked into a messy place! I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way

 

Here is the link

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1696

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

while we're making polls..lets also make one on customer hygiene. Same deal. There are customers who dont think they smell bad or don't realize it and some don't pay attention and some dont care because they are paying for a service. Well....some things slip..such as a customer arriving to see a girl from work and he hasn't had the time to shower or brush his teeth. Dirty incall locations just like customers with hygiene issues is not a common thing. It "happens" just like everything else...

Our regulars are really happy with us and this "dirty incall location" thing doesn't happen often. Our girls work from clean, upscale locations unless there is another reason for working from somewhere else.

Either way..if there is a problem, we will be happy to try and fix it for you guys, so let us know!!

[mod 135639]

I agree bad hygiene on either side is not appropriate and I am sure most people agree with this as well so feel free to create a poll. It may help a little to increase awareness of this. I would hope if someone had bad hygiene that the girl would say "Please have a shower, here is a toothbrush too" maybe the guy would get embarrassed enough to no longer show up to a call like that... if he refuses send him away ... hell I would expect the customer to send the girl away if she had poor hygiene.

[CapitalGuy 94]

Hopefully, of course, the lady who sends away a guy with bad hygiene is professional enough and honest enough to not take any cash from the guy. Otherwise, its a blank cheque for the agency or the lady - take a guy's cash then send him away because he's stinky (even if he's not). I'd be pissed off if I showed up, freshly showered, clean breath and all, (like I always do) and get told to leave, after I'd forked over my money.

 

 

 

I agree bad hygiene on either side is not appropriate and I am sure most people agree with this as well so feel free to create a poll. It may help a little to increase awareness of this. I would hope if someone had bad hygiene that the girl would say "Please have a shower, here is a toothbrush too" maybe the guy would get embarrassed enough to no longer show up to a call like that... if he refuses send him away ... hell I would expect the customer to send the girl away if she had poor hygiene.

[rick_falcon 911]

I totally agree with you CapitalGuy.

 

If a lady does that, it's just a rip-off/theft because any excuse could be implied.

And if a guy gets robbed, what can he do? Call the police? I don't think so.

Unfortunately, these situations happen...

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

k well simple solution...like this is easy...

if you show up to a dirty incall location and do not feel comfotable doing the call, tell the girl...call the agency right away!!!!! LOL. Don't pay and do the call then make a complaint online weeks..months later!!!!!

If you get rejected because of bad hygiene...shower before the call..whatever.. OR...leave before even starting the call......before paying..if you see an issue arising over it.

!!!!!

[mod 135639]

That is a lot of exclamation marks....

 

I agree, don't post a complaint later as it does no one any good. If it's an agency call the agent and let them know (Chances are they don't know about these things as many people just leave mad and never complain so your actually helping the agency out by letting them know something is wrong - a good agency will deal with problems). If it's a indi girl, be honest and tell her why you are leaving so maybe she will learn from her mistakes (Be polite as rude behavior will not help the situation).

 

If the escort takes your money then asks you to leave it is theft, nothing can justify this! If this happens post it in the WARNINGS section here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=17

[JoyfulC 132299]

This time of year, it's never a bad idea to have some fresh fluffy towels on hand and let a guest know that they're welcome to a quick rinse in the shower -- whether it's an escort visiting a gentleman or a gentleman visiting the lady's place. On these hot, humid days, even a little walking around outside can leave one feeling sticky and smelling a bit of sweat. It's not necessarily poor hygiene -- just the weather.

 

(Very much agree with Jessica -- give feedback in a timely fashion!)

 

..c..

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

This time of year, it's never a bad idea to have some fresh fluffy towels on hand and let a guest know that they're welcome to a quick rinse in the shower -- whether it's an escort visiting a gentleman or a gentleman visiting the lady's place. On these hot, humid days, even a little walking around outside can leave one feeling sticky and smelling a bit of sweat. It's not necessarily poor hygiene -- just the weather.

 

(Very much agree with Jessica -- give feedback in a timely fashion!)

 

..c..

 

 

that is a great suggestion about the towels. its great to always be prepared. and about the feedback...well those of us who have agencies..we do appreciate the promptness if you are going to make a complaint about anything. If a complaint is made about anything, we willl gladly pass on the comment to the girl and offer to compensate a regular client at any time. But plz keep in mind we do not exercise control and direction over these girls and so therefore just like independents they do what they want.

xoxoxo

[CapitalGuy 94]

I very much agree that both parties should smell and look their best for an encounter. I doubt there's any disagreement among the civilized members of the hobby, of both gender, on that point.

 

As for a prompt complaint on the part of the guys, a point to bear in mind is that many of the men who partake of a lady's services are nervous, shy, or in some cases even scared of causing a scene. It is not easy for some guys to go through with a call, and if something goes wrong, it is even harder for some men to make a fuss. They just want to get out of the situation as quickly and easily as possible. This may be out of fear of insulting a lady, out of fear of getting into a verbal or physical altercation with the lady or her driver or a bodyguard, out of fear that an agency rep or "mob guy" will show up at the hotel or the guy's house in the middle of the night to sort him out, out of fear of getting the police involved, out of fear of somehow being "outed" as a hobbiest, or simply out of fear of having a less than satisfactory encounter if the lady is not entirely content with the way things unfold.

 

Ladies and agency reps, please bear in mind that although this may be a profession for you, or at least an activity you engage in on a daily/regular basis, for many guys its a rare and nerve-racking event surrounded by many unknowns. It is likely the most illicit thing many customers do in their day to day lives, so the fear of briefly entering the "illegal" world plays big on their minds, and if things don't go perfectly smoothly, they just want to get the hell out of there, and a confrontation is simply not an option. Posting on a board is their only way of getting their complaint across, and/or of warning others.

 

And if a situation is confronted directly and sorted out by the lady or agency on the spot, the guy may still want to post on a board, to let others know about the hiccup and how it was accommodated. If an agency does the right thing, they should not be worried about the story being told, as it shows they are professional and customer-oriented.

[Guest abulreesh]

Wow this is a heated up discussion ... i see. But i totally agree with CapitalGuy's last comment ... most of us if we walk into a bad situation would just get the call over with as quickly as they can and get the hell out ... i know i would. But i also agree with jessica ... simply put, TAKE a SHOWER before going to a call ... but then at 30 degrees heat well i dunno how long the shower will last. But overall i gotta admit i tried independant girls and pk was the first agency i tried and the service that i recieved was amazing, friendly girls, on time etc etc.

[Guest AL]

I don't agree with that. You can always talk with the lady and tell her what is your expectations, what you like or not. Every client is different i guess. I always ask the lady if there is anything she don't like from me as well. Communication is the key. Ask and you will get what you want. If the lady is too agressive or disrespect you then just leave. Once you are at home it's too late to fix it up. I'm talking by experience cause i'm Asian and i was always shy to ask any requests i had. Just be e a man of yourself and she will treat you like a man! I get better experience since i changed my way, but i have been a jerk for a while.

[CapitalGuy 94]

Hi AL. Your approach is very good, and will help ensure both the lady and the customer have a good time. That should be a part of any encounter. But we're more talking about when something is very wrong with the date, that is above and beyond what the lady's restrictions are.

 

Good topic.

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

I think discussions like this are great and there is nothing wrong with a little debate here and there!!! I agree with all of you... Al and Abulreesh good points!!

Capital guy.. i see your point!

And on my side, like i said there is only so much that we as an agency can do when problems such as these occur.

things will happen...as they sometimes do..doesn't mean the girl is a bad girl or the customer is a bad person or that the agency is disfunctional...just means that these things happen and we should all on our parts deal with them in the best way we can!

*k...i need some coffee now!*

talk to you guys soon.

xoxoxox

[JoyfulC 132299]

CapitalGuy, I hear what you're saying and I believe it 100% when you describe the way guys feel walking into a situation.

 

But we are actually not fearless ourselves! We have our concerns, and many of them are legal. Independent SPs feel very put on the spot when someone asks them on the phone or in e-mail if they'll commit to providing a sexual service. PLEASE don't do that to us! It puts us in the position of either having to compromise ourselves legally or lose the business. Independents tend to make their livings on repeat business (too much new business is just too nervewracking!), and so trust that once you meet the escort, she's going to work hard to ensure you'll want to come back. A dishonest person will tell you anything over the phone just to get your money -- but most honest escorts are highly uncomfortable hanging their butts so far over the legal line that way, because generally, we tend to be nice girls who've never been in any trouble. And we want to keep it that way!

 

For an agent, such as Jessica, please be mindful of the fine line she has to walk with respect to the law. It won't serve anyone to expect her to hang herself out and risk getting busted -- to do so will simply run all the good agencies off and make it impossible for anyone but one who approaches running an agency the way a pimp approaches running a stable.

 

I've worked for dozens of agencies and run a few over the years. Generally, a good agent will make every effort to convey constructive criticism and feedback to the escort in a way that will protect the anonymity of the person making the complaint -- even if it just happened yesterday! What would be her motivation to get the customer in trouble? The agent is on her OWN side -- and for that reason, she wants to help the escorts AND she wants to help the customers. The only time agencies turn on the customers is when the customer puts the agency in jeopardy in some way first -- such as threatening the entire agency over the irresponsible action of a single escort. For example, many times, I've heard of an escort ripping a customer off -- if the customer phones the agency to let them know, but doesn't hold them responsible, then probably the agent will get rid of the bad escort and will probably make it up to the customer, even though it wasn't their fault, just to ensure his return business. But if the customer screams that he's calling the police and demands that the agency give him the money that was stolen, then at that point, usually the agency has little choice but to view the customer as unreasonable and as a threat.

 

Remember that you are going through an agent for *assistance* with connecting with an escort -- but you and the escort are ultimately responsible for what happens between the two of you. A good agent can go a long way to help you with providing feedback, and many (such as Jessica) view it in their best interest to make it up to customers whose experiences were less-than-satisfying. But be realistic about what the agent can and cannot control or be responsible for.

 

Don't forget that we have our concerns too!

 

..c..

[PKjessica (PK is now PKJas 103]

thanks for helping me explain my side on this topic Joyful C...