roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 Just a dumb question. But if you want a BBBJ then why book an encounter with a companion who offers only a CBJ? It seems simple and just common courtesy. Respect the lady's boundaries, don't ask for something she doesn't offer A rambling RG 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The General 11309 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 Actually wouldn't sour me at all, I would just take it as information for any future decision. It certainly wouldn't affect how I felt about the current session. Some of us dwell on the past, some of us look to the future. Glass half full, Glass half empty. So, we don't all think and feel the same, that's was great about getting the opportunity to see a variety of women. ^^ thanks for explaining it well lol. Remember as a client whatever you ask is never going to be the first time the sp is being asked that. Normally a potential client asks that prior to booking the appt, It is important to him, this is what he wants, this is the time to ask it. I have been asked by callers before after hearing the services, do i ever waive that cbj for repeat clients. My answer is no, he knows going in if he books, and he has the option to not book. Prior to booking is the time to ask, not after an appt. Asking a cbj provider, who hasn't indicated that bbbj is ever an option, after the session seems rude to me. it kind of implies that you'd repeat if she complies, it kind of implies that there is only one right answer to get repeat business, she thinks she just finished a great appt, and now she finds out it wasn't great at all cuz this guy wants bbbjs, which she doesn't provide, and it leaves a really bitter feeling at the end of what she thinks is a great session. To put it into a client analogy, let's just say that he thinks the session was great, she provides everything he could have wanted, and at a rate he thinks is fair. After the appt, she looks at him after he says, gee, is it OK if i call you again for another appt, and she says, sure, but to get all those services again, I'll be charging you an extra $50. You can repeat with me, but not at that rate. You'd kind of feel soured by the whole experience. You thought you were an ideal client, you thought you were getting along just fine, you didn't ask for anything extra, and you liked the sp. Now you find out that in order to repeat with her, she will expect more $$ or she'll turn you down. kind of leaves a bitter memory instead of a pleasant one. Additional Comments: Nobody said that they were satisfied with the current session, if they were, they wouldn't ask, since you wouldn't consider repeating. Hey, with the right lady, you balance the pros/cons, but that doesn't mean you would like to know if other options might be available. Just a dumb question. But if you want a BBBJ then why book an encounter with a companion who offers only a CBJ? It seems simple and just common courtesy. Respect the lady's boundaries, don't ask for something she doesn't offerA rambling RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ann Gallerie 7910 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 As in all things, there are people that read and hear what they want to, and assume automatically that good looks get you free fries, or a ticket to the Jays game with VIP seats, or a BBBJ. (But not all at once. Ketchup in your hair smells like a chip stand at the CNE.) I don't understand why a BBBJ is so important. There are things that can be done with a man's body that hasn't even got names yet. And rightfully so. A Ducati is a great bike! Everybody loves Ducatis. But if all you do is Ducatis, each and every time you ride, over and over, you might secretly covet a midnighter on a Black Shadow. But Vincent types are not what the boys on ERB are talking about, so back you go. Funny how they never write about pegging, or nipple sucking, or licking the armpit, or biting behind the neck, or a 1000 other uniquely erotic inventions for the lover in all of us. They really should watch Fight Club more often. Don't wear another man's name on your underwear, and don't love a woman like you're told. Anyway. They say that a BBBJ feels better, but realistically, with a blindfold (one of my very favorite flavours), most people can't tell the difference between bar mixes. The reason that they will never do a BBBJ with a blindfold is because its a thrill. It's like screaming 200 kmph on the 401, sweating bullets, and sure, sorta, you are immortal, and it's your life. My evil twin wants to mutter that if you want a thrill, there are providers just itching to try some surprises that even Tyler Durden hadn't thought of. If - and this is a big if - you go off the grid and let her show you paradise. Yes or no? An opinion - hopefully an educated one. I liked FortunateOne's commentary that it's really for the client to confirm the escort's preferences - "safe" is a pretty straightforward word. Trusting us to make it matter is our job. Thanks for listening to my rant! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rubintugger 3323 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 The tag YMMV isn't a very friendly one when slapped on an SP. It can insult a client when he doesn't get full mileage. So I can understand many ladies avoiding that tag. That said, an untagged YMMV lady will invariably advertise CBJ only. Understandable. Mentioning to an SP in a non confrontational way that while you insist on a condom for sex, you are fine either way when it comes to BJ's can open that door for both parties. I've had more than one SP complain about the taste or texture of condoms, and that they love a good, clean cock. And then continue with an unexpected BBBJ. But I arrive squeaky clean and have a very non threatening member. Do these ladies do this to entice a regular booking from me? Or do they just enjoy finding a nice, clean cock they can give a good sucking to? Do they do it expecting an enhanced tip (pardon the pun). Or do they just feel comfortable? Personally, I don't care either way. Condoms actually help a little in delaying things, and with the technology these days, well, I don't find they negatively affect the experience very much at all. And I am definately not a snowball customer. Handled tactfully, there is no reason you cannot inquire about the availability of BBBJ service. Making it a dealbreaker with someone who advertises CBJ only is a different story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 I came of age in the 70's when condoms were non-existent (I'd never ever bought one) and frankly even birth control was never discussed as virtually all women used the pill. In 1982 sitting around a pool in Barbado's we met some nurses from New Jersey who were telling us these seemingly wild stories about men in their area who were dieing from this unknown illness. It was so scary that Docs and nurses would only enter their rooms wearing haz/mat clothing and that funeral parlours wouldn't take the deceased and the bodies were being cremated in the city incinerator. No one had any idea what it was......within 2 years they did and the whole sex game turned on a dime. Starting in the mid-80's condoms were everywhere, casual sex became a bit of a negotiation not about condom use as that was now automatic for all activity but sexual history was discussed and disclosed only those who were married or in a long term relationship even considered not using condoms. Funny that 30 years later whether advertised or not bbbj's has become much like birth control in the 80's, and in my experience especially recently that it's very rarely even a discussion point. Peace MG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 The tag YMMV isn't a very friendly one when slapped on an SP. Everything in life is YMMV...the waiters where we go for lunch all know me and give me extra attention, or comp me a meal. One of the mechanics at the bike shop will drop everything and look at my bike. Some of our vendors slip me a freebie now and then. That's life in the real world. SPs are going to have a wide variation in customers, some wealthy, some scraping together barely enough. Some demanding a lot, some very easily pleased. So they get YMMV as well. YMMV is a given. Nothing insulting about it at all. Handled tactfully, there is no reason you cannot inquire about the availability of BBBJ service. Agreed, as long as you aren't a jerk about it. And if the guy is a jerk about it, maybe the sp is better off without him as a client. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wpgguy1969 150 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 As a respectful client with 10 years experience in the hobby, you know what I find disrespectful? 70% of the service providers don't actually provide what they advertise, even if you politely confirm the advertised services on the phone before hand. I'm also not a risk taker and try to book with fairly reputable ladies. I'm 32, always show up fresh and clean, easy on the eyes and very easy to talk to so ymmv shouldn't be an issue. I'm often given pecks for DFK, getting 30 to 40 minute sessions instead of 60 that I paid for, having to wait for a lady outside for an extra 10 to 20 minutes after our scheduled time, sog instead of msog and the list goes on and on........I rarely walk to my car after thinking "wow, that was a great experience". So, the service thing works both ways is what I'm trying to say..... and sps are often at fault too. This also goes for this bbbj debate. Sps advertise bbbj and give cbj when you arrive. Many of us are being robbed and some of us report back on these boards. There is alot of false adverting in this business and I suggest not getting so butt hurt over a client asking a simple question to confirm a service. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31728 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 I personally don't know what a clean bbbj is? If someone is afraid of catching.something then they shouldn't even consider bbbj or bbfs Because yes in this day and age herpies does exsist and we all take risk hell we are.human but if you are worried then my advice to you would be to practice safe sex I understand a bbbj probably does feel much better but so does a cbj(I have.never had a complaint) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 I have done a ton of duos over the years.. and many of my colleagues are BBBJ preferential. They do love the taste of cock without the condom. BUT the most frequently advertised condom is Trojan.. and they are the worst goddam tasting and smelling condoms on the planet. I would never ever ever use one for a BJ. I used to use flavoured ones and loved the variety of flavors.. strawberry and banana being my favorite. I've even encouraged clients who lament that their wives won't blow them to encourage them to play with a flavored one to get them into a different head space. Now however I just use Lifestyles. They come in L sizes too.. only use lubricated as unlubed have a stupid powder on them of some sort. They have zero taste to my sensitive palate anyway.. and I love using them as I feel 100% safe in my activities While risk of BBBJ is obviously less than BBFS.. it's always there and while people get tested.. you're only as safe as the last person you had an encounter with. Too much risk for my sanity. The reason guys ask CBJ escorts if they're open to BBBJ is because they believe that lady is seeing less clients for BBBJ and is therefore more 'clean'. They consider themselves one of the few she will offer this too and therefore less chance of risk. I used to have a client pressure me constantly for this for an extra fee and came right out and admitted this was his M.O. I finally got tired of it and refused his appts eventually. He literally pulled this every single session. It became mentally exhausting for me. Now.. having said that. I don't begrudge someone asking in the heat of the moment briefly.. so long as they let it go as a wistful wish. I will then incorporate their wish into a sexy roleplay talk. Let's face it.. while sex feels really good.. it's 90% between the ears.. the dirty talk about the risky behaviour is often hotter than the actual behaviour and you don't leave wondering if you're safe. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31728 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 I use the.flavored condoms(strawberry and.banana) they taste great and smell great...I only provide cbj I do receive a lot of requests for bbbj because I think its starting to become the.norm(in thing to do in this business) and hey to each their own I am not.judging anyone we all.have our likes and.boundaries I don't.mind.sucking on a flavored condom xo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CristyCurves 169032 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 Just to be clear- condoms limit the likely hood of catching herpes but they don't eliminate it. A person can still catch herpes while using condoms since herpes is passed from skin to skin contact. http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-publications/fact-sheet/genital-herpes.html It can also be passed when a man is performing daty. If you aren't using dental dams or a lady condom then you are leaving yourself as open to those providing bbbj. Since we are only as safe and clean as our last test says and our last partner to be fair none of us no what we are passing back and forth at the "next" time. The only 100% safe practice is no sex of any kind other than self gratification. Then you know you are safe, condoms or not:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank97500 18478 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 The only 100% safe practice is no sex of any kind other than self gratification. Oh NO!!! Not true!!! lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31728 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 So true condoms.do not 100% eliminate.your chances of catching.herpies but they do help! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horndog66 14104 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 The reason guys ask CBJ escorts if they're open to BBBJ is because they believe that lady is seeing less clients for BBBJ and is therefore more 'clean'. They consider themselves one of the few she will offer this too and therefore less chance of risk.No, it isn't. It's because there is a drastic reduction in sensation from BBBJ to CBJ, accompanied by only a slight increase in risk. The sensations from a BBBJ are a lot more subtle than those from BBFS, and they don't transfer well through rubber, regardless of the provider's (alleged) skill. While there is also a reduction in sensation from BBFS to CFS, it is less pronounced, and the increase in risk is much greater, so hardly anyone (certainly not yours truly) is willing to take that risk, even if BBFS is offered. As for the fewer clients argument, I don't buy it at all. If a lady provides me with a BBBJ, I always assume that is her normal level of service that she provides to almost all her clients, regardless of what she advertises. I am under no illusion whatsoever that I am somehow special. I used to have a client pressure me constantly for this for an extra fee and came right out and admitted this was his M.O. I finally got tired of it and refused his appts eventually. He literally pulled this every single session. It became mentally exhausting for me.That is ridiculous behaviour on his part, and I don't blame you for being annoyed. However, you should have refused to see him after the second time. If the lack of BBBJ is a deal breaker for the client, you should both move on. Now.. having said that. I don't begrudge someone asking in the heat of the moment briefly.. so long as they let it go as a wistful wish.I would never interrupt the action, even if the lady is (disappointingly to me) applying a condom for oral. It could spoil the whole encounter. I would wait until I'm leaving to make a request about BBBJ if I think I might want to see her again. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exotic Touch Danielle 31728 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) We as sp's and hobbiest need to educate ourselves, stay healthy,keep regular doctor visits and just be respectful and honest with each other Some offer bbbj and some don't....some hobbiest prefer bbbj and others dont We all have our likes and boundaries lets just respect it and have fun doing it Xo Edited April 27, 2014 by Exotic Touch Danielle 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixpak 3780 Report post Posted April 27, 2014 We as sp's and hobbiest need to educate ourselves, stay healthy,keep regular doctor visits and just be respectful and honest with each otherSome offer bbbj and some don't....some hobbiest prefer bbbj and others dont We all have our likes and boundaries lets just respect it and have fun doing it Xo Well stated - totally agree. You said a good mouthful there! ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted April 28, 2014 No, it isn't. It's because there is a drastic reduction in sensation from BBBJ to CBJ, accompanied by only a slight increase in risk. As for the fewer clients argument, I don't buy it at all. If a lady provides me with a BBBJ, I always assume that is her normal level of service that she provides to almost all her clients, regardless of what she advertises. I am under no illusion whatsoever that I am somehow special. . I think you missed the part where I said CBJ providers. I wasn't disqualifying that BBBJ feels better. Of course it does. I was saying the game with trying to find a 'cleaner' bbbj provider. The mentality being that a girl who normally provides CBJ.. and sometimes provides BBBJ may seem 'cleaner'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vaper 110 Report post Posted August 4, 2014 Response to pistol Pete; it's great u get tested regularly but remember it's call STI's now for a very important reason. You could be a carrier without even knowing. Some test will not show certain types of HPV for example which is one of the most common sti's. You can be infected without showing any signs of the disease until later or sometimes never. I am a firm believer in education and making responsible decisions to either practice safe or knowledge risks first it's part of life. We are all guilty for being human with strong desires for pleasure :) Here in Ottawa we haves, where you can easily walk in get tested YOURSELF without giving nothing. more than a contact number IF something comes back. For myself, because I do seem to see a few ladies, I get tested every 2-3 months, and NOT once have I EVER tested positive for any STD. That said, I can honestly say, HERE in Ottawa, and of course some touring ladies I've met, the SP's that I've seen are very very meticulous about their health, and do their due diligence in getting themselves checked out as well. All I can say :) "if you have doubt don't pull it out" "the right selection is to protect your erection" "don't be silly wrap your willy" "if you think she spunky cover your monkey" Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites